First Amendment Audits

[HungryLion]

I’m not really big into the people that go out looking to create police interactions.

that being said there’s this Facebook page “audit the audit” they review videos of police interactions. But they do it based off officer video cameras or video taken by bystanders. They don’t actually seek out the interactions.

their breakdowns are generally very good as they actually discuss local, state and federal law that pertains to the interaction, discuss court cases and legal precedent that pertains to the interaction and then grade the officers and grade the person who interacted with them. Based off how they handled the situation.

those are good videos.


On another note There is this one guy who is an auditer that does videos. And he is constantly cursing at the officers and calling them names. Now, is it your legal first amendment right to do so? Yes. But that doesn’t make it morally right. You can point out when an officer is doing wrong without cursing them out. That’s also what lawyers are for. To defend your rights if needed.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

If a frauditor interacts with a cop he is bad. And you got clowns harassing post office employees. Anyone who makes themselves a part of the story for clicks and views is doing it wrong.
YouTube needs to de-minimize every frauditors channel.

Do not agree.

Too many police abusing their powers, violating peoples rights and getting away with under the guise of qualified immunity.
Too many police that flat out do not understand the law and the rights of civilians.
Too many that work for the government that are paid by the tax payers that violate the rights of those that pay for their wages and work places.
Too many Americans that do not know their rights and give them up to police or people in power.
Too many good Americans who have died over the history of this country to preserve the rights of people only for someone to give them up or abuse them.
Too many Cops that resign before being charged with a crime or get terminated only to move to another police station and continue to violate rights and laws.
Too many sovereign citizen cops and government employees that thinks the laws do not apply to them but apply to you.

The founding fathers knew that it would be very easy to become under the thumb of a tyrannical government so they put protections in place. When you defend your rights and exercise your rights there should NEVER be turned into a crime just because someone doesn't like it.

Just because cops or government employees think they are above the law, does not make it so. And anyone that defends those people for violating someone's rights, they are part of the problem. They are the enablers.

 

[Hardline]

Do not agree.

Too many police abusing their powers, violating peoples rights and getting away with under the guise of qualified immunity.
Too many police that flat out do not understand the law and the rights of civilians.
Too many that work for the government that are paid by the tax payers that violate the rights of those that pay for their wages and work places.
Too many Americans that do not know their rights and give them up to police or people in power.
Too many good Americans who have died over the history of this country to preserve the rights of people only for someone to give them up or abuse them.
Too many Cops that resign before being charged with a crime or get terminated only to move to another police station and continue to violate rights and laws.
Too many sovereign citizen cops and government employees that thinks the laws do not apply to them but apply to you.

The founding fathers knew that it would be very easy to become under the thumb of a tyrannical government so they put protections in place. When you defend your rights and exercise your rights there should NEVER be turned into a crime just because someone doesn't like it.

Just because cops or government employees think they are above the law, does not make it so. And anyone that defends those people for violating someone's rights, they are part of the problem. They are the enablers.

I've never seen a frauditor video where the police wasnt in the right 99% of the time. Frauditors and cop watchers are fishing for lawsuits. I'm not going to support anyone that is just a cop hater or spread the false narrative that police are out to violate our rights. Qualified immunity is to prevent frivolous lawsuits on law enforcement and I support it 100% .
We have other methods to hold police accountable though internal affairs and body cameras.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I've never seen a frauditor video where the police wasnt in the right 99% of the time. Frauditors and cop watchers are fishing for lawsuits. I'm not going to support anyone that is just a cop hater or spread the false narrative that police are out to violate our rights. Qualified immunity is to prevent frivolous lawsuits on law enforcement and I support it 100% .
We have other methods to hold police accountable though internal affairs and body cameras.

You have never seen it because you only watch certain channels that cater to your thinking.

I have seen PLENTY of videos where the cops where in the wrong. Phillip Turner as i stated before has took thinks to the 5th circuit court. He was on a public sidewalk filming. Was not talking to people, was not cussing, was not threatening people was not being confrontational.

By texas penal code 38.02 says you do have have to ID to a police officer unless you have been lawfully arrest for a crime or if you give a false name and info. This does not apply if you are driving. So you cannot be arrested for failure to identify unless you have been arrested for another crime or have given false information.
Many texas cops do not understand this. Many other states have similar laws. Failure to id (not while driving) normally is a secondary charge that needs an initial charge.

Turner also made case law by saying that photography and video taping from public areas is NOT a crime and is not considered suspicious behavior. The 5th circuit agreed with him.



They violated his First Amendment, they violated his 4th amendment by going into his pockets without permission as he did not violate a law. They may do a pat down to make sure a person does not have weapons on them but they are NOT allowed to go into peoples pockets to look for id and pull out other things that might be in there unless they have been arrested OR unless the person gives them permission to do so. This video also has some audio portions of the circuit court trial.

People think that it is a crime to video tape police officers while they are doing their job. The supreme court has ruled multiple times that it is NOT against the law.

Here is another video that shows police violating someone's rights...



This man was not being rude, he was not interfering in the stop. This cop was fired and the man won a settlement. The man was NOT required to ID to the law as he had committed no crime. He violates the mans 1st and 4th amendments.
The man was being threatened under color of law to be arrested if he did not comply when he was not required to ID.


Here is a news report of people being intimidated while trying to get a simple police complaint form that should be available to all citizens...



Here is another one where the guy was not committing a crime, yet they tried to arrest him for failure to id when failure to ID is only a secondary offense.
Even after being reprimanded it is clear that this officer still does not understand.

 

[jnday]

I watch them all the time
They are not doing it in the interests of the first amendment. They are baiting people to cause a reaction for clicks and views
These people are the lowest form of scum there is. .
I call them frauditors.
I do not subscribe to their channels. I watch through channels that expose these frauditors like Villified Freedom. Shrodingers Cat. Degeneration Nation and many others. They also expose sovereign citizens .

I agree with you 100%. There is no doubt in my mind that these auditors goes to these places with the hope of having a confrontation. There may be some auditors that are reasonable and polite, but I have never seen one. One thing that ticks me off about them is the amount of time that a police officer spends dealing with them when the officer could be doing his job instead of arguing with an idiot that is trying to get more clicks on his videos. These officers have a ton of patience , more than I would have dealing with these people.

 

[jnday]

I've never seen a frauditor video where the police wasnt in the right 99% of the time. Frauditors and cop watchers are fishing for lawsuits. I'm not going to support anyone that is just a cop hater or spread the false narrative that police are out to violate our rights. Qualified immunity is to prevent frivolous lawsuits on law enforcement and I support it 100% .
We have other methods to hold police accountable though internal affairs and body cameras.

These auditors go out looking for a confrontation with law enforcement officers. That is the one and only goal. They try to get a cop with a gotcha moment that will get a lot of views. There should be laws passed that makes people identify themselves when they are in suspicious situations. I see it as a big waste of time. I have never felt the need to wonder into government buildings and recording employees. I have never felt the need to put myself in a suspicious position that would require me to engage a cop in conversation either.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Here is another involving Phillip Turner who was not being rude at all but exercising his rights.



This one involves a 2nd amend auditor known as Soloyacker/the armed fisherman



Here is another one where the guy was quietly filming the cops. Then the cops turned the music up super loud at night (something they would probably issue others a ticket for). The reason he did this is hoping that if the auditor published his video on Youtube the disney music would give him a copy right strike forcing the auditor to remove the video.
Thankfully a City Councilmen who lived in that area set the officer straight.



Here is another where the guy was not being rude, was not causing a disturbance. Just simply filming until the officer came up and started demanding ID that was not, by law, required. Thankfully the officers superior stepped in and corrected the officer.


Here is yet another auditor that was not being rude or disturbing the peace, just filming. Again, thankfully the superior officer stepped in and corrected the situation.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

These auditors go out looking for a confrontation with law enforcement officers. That is the one and only goal. They try to get a cop with a gotcha moment that will get a lot of views. There should be laws passed that makes people identify themselves when they are in suspicious situations. I see it as a big waste of time. I have never felt the need to wonder into government buildings and recording employees. I have never felt the need to put myself in a suspicious position that would require me to engage a cop in conversation either.

The 1st amendment is not suspicious behavior.
Taking photos or video is not suspicious behavior and that was the crux of the Turner vs Driver case and Turner won.

 

[Hardline]

You have never seen it because you only watch certain channels that cater to your thinking.

I have seen PLENTY of videos where the cops where in the wrong. Phillip Turner as i stated before has took thinks to the 5th circuit court. He was on a public sidewalk filming. Was not talking to people, was not cussing, was not threatening people was not being confrontational.

By texas penal code 38.02 says you do have have to ID to a police officer unless you have been lawfully arrest for a crime or if you give a false name and info. This does not apply if you are driving. So you cannot be arrested for failure to identify unless you have been arrested for another crime or have given false information.
Many texas cops do not understand this. Many other states have similar laws. Failure to id (not while driving) normally is a secondary charge that needs an initial charge.

Turner also made case law by saying that photography and video taping from public areas is NOT a crime and is not considered suspicious behavior. The 5th circuit agreed with him.



They violated his First Amendment, they violated his 4th amendment by going into his pockets without permission as he did not violate a law. They may do a pat down to make sure a person does not have weapons on them but they are NOT allowed to go into peoples pockets to look for id and pull out other things that might be in there unless they have been arrested OR unless the person gives them permission to do so. This video also has some audio portions of the circuit court trial.

People think that it is a crime to video tape police officers while they are doing their job. The supreme court has ruled multiple times that it is NOT against the law.

Here is another video that shows police violating someone's rights...



This man was not being rude, he was not interfering in the stop. This cop was fired and the man won a settlement. The man was NOT required to ID to the law as he had committed no crime. He violates the mans 1st and 4th amendments.
The man was being threatened under color of law to be arrested if he did not comply when he was not required to ID.


Here is a news report of people being intimidated while trying to get a simple police complaint form that should be available to all citizens...



Here is another one where the guy was not committing a crime, yet they tried to arrest him for failure to id when failure to ID is only a secondary offense.
Even after being reprimanded it is clear that this officer still does not understand.

I dont only watch the channels that line up with my way of thinking. The channels I watch link to the unedited source and the channels I watch are hosted by actual lawyers.
You CAN legally IDed at a traffic stop.
You CAN be trespassed from public buildings.

Trust me. I know the laws and I know when these cop watchers and first amendment frauditors cross the line.

 

[Hardline]

And these frauditors that film in post offices always say POSTER 7 in the post office rules gives them the right to film even though it specifically says it dont.
.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Another person just filming the cops gets

I dont only watch the channels that line up with my way of thinking. The channels I watch link to the unedited source and the channels I watch are hosted by actual lawyers.
You CAN legally IDed at a traffic stop.
You CAN be trespassed from public buildings.

Trust me. I know the laws and I know when these cop watchers and first amendment frauditors cross the line.

If you are driving you can be id.

However if you are outside in public and filming, you do not have to legally ID unless you have broke a law.
You CAN be trespassed from public buildings in certain situations however it is also not against the law to film in public foyers and lobbies in public buildings that are accessible to the public. This does not include in court rooms or restricted areas. I have given you examples of people who have WON court cases against the cops, towns and departments. There are also those out there that are lawyers as well. We have a lawyer here in WV that is a big 1st, 2nd and 4th amend activist and has won many cases for his client

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

And these frauditors that film in post offices always say POSTER 7 in the post office rules gives them the right to film even though it specifically says it dont.
.

Actually it does give them limited ability to film and photograph public sections of the lobbies as long as they are not causing a disturbance, however the post master general does have the authority ask then to leave. So you said "I've never seen a frauditor video where the police wasnt in the right 99% of the time." I just gave you multiple videos and examples of the opposite.

You ever consider that some that do it, know what they are doing and those that do the channels you like do not cover them because they know they are not doing anything illegal. Hence the reason you rarely if ever see what i have talked about. Can't see something if you won't look at it or watch sources that show it

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/f...-002-2018 Photography and Videotaping ....pdf

 

[jnday]

The 1st amendment is not suspicious behavior.
Taking photos or video is not suspicious behavior and that was the crux of the Turner vs Driver case and Turner won.

Filming the layout of police station and filming shift changes and officers in their personal vehicles as them come and go from work is very suspicious IMO. There is no reason for anybody to film this stuff. Filming the personal vehicles is a big concern when you have criminals that are crazy enough to want revenge. One a cop’s personal vehicle is known, it is much easier to find out where they live. It may sound far-fetched, but I remember several instances of payback which included shooting into the vehicles and homes of officers that had arrested them or some of their family and friends. This type of filming is a great example of just because it is legal, doesn’t mean it’s a good ideal. These auditors have absolutely no reason to film inside or outside these buildings. They are just hoping that somebody is ignorant to the laws and they can take them to court and get a big check , which comes directly from the taxpayers. When it comes to the First Amendment, I find it hypocritical considering that we are on a message board that has all kinds of rules against saying certain things and there are rules against questioning those rules and the ones that enforce the rules. I understand the rules because there are kids that reads our posts, but there are kids around these people that are using the worst insults in the English language when insulting cops and government workers. As I have said before, just because you have the right to do something, it doesn’t mean that you should do it. Unfortunately our society no longer knows the difference. I don’t know the answer to these problems and I wouldn’t even attempt to come up with answers that would satisfy everybody.

 

[Mannix]

Do not agree.

Too many police abusing their powers, violating peoples rights and getting away with under the guise of qualified immunity.
Too many police that flat out do not understand the law and the rights of civilians.
Too many that work for the government that are paid by the tax payers that violate the rights of those that pay for their wages and work places.
Too many Americans that do not know their rights and give them up to police or people in power.
Too many good Americans who have died over the history of this country to preserve the rights of people only for someone to give them up or abuse them.
Too many Cops that resign before being charged with a crime or get terminated only to move to another police station and continue to violate rights and laws.
Too many sovereign citizen cops and government employees that thinks the laws do not apply to them but apply to you.

The founding fathers knew that it would be very easy to become under the thumb of a tyrannical government so they put protections in place. When you defend your rights and exercise your rights there should NEVER be turned into a crime just because someone doesn't like it.

Just because cops or government employees think they are above the law, does not make it so. And anyone that defends those people for violating someone's rights, they are part of the problem. They are the enablers.

TOTALLY agree...and if there was no Qualified Immunity, you can bet that the majority of cops would insist on more training to protect themselves. People do not realize that these lawsuit payouts....sometimes in the millions....that citizens often get, are paid with our tax money....not by the guilty party or parties.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Filming the layout of police station and filming shift changes and officers in their personal vehicles as them come and go from work is very suspicious IMO. There is no reason for anybody to film this stuff. Filming the personal vehicles is a big concern when you have criminals that are crazy enough to want revenge. One a cop’s personal vehicle is known, it is much easier to find out where they live. It may sound far-fetched, but I remember several instances of payback which included shooting into the vehicles and homes of officers that had arrested them or some of their family and friends. This type of filming is a great example of just because it is legal, doesn’t mean it’s a good ideal. These auditors have absolutely no reason to film inside or outside these buildings. They are just hoping that somebody is ignorant to the laws and they can take them to court and get a big check , which comes directly from the taxpayers. When it comes to the First Amendment, I find it hypocritical considering that we are on a message board that has all kinds of rules against saying certain things and there are rules against questioning those rules and the ones that enforce the rules. I understand the rules because there are kids that reads our posts, but there are kids around these people that are using the worst insults in the English language when insulting cops and government workers. As I have said before, just because you have the right to do something, it doesn’t mean that you should do it. Unfortunately our society no longer knows the difference. I don’t know the answer to these problems and I wouldn’t even attempt to come up with answers that would satisfy everybody.

I have watched hundreds if not thousands of videos with people having interactions with police whether that be auditors or just someone who happens to be filming. I do not recall seeing one video where they are logging in all the officers names, shift changes and so on.

Concerning videoing plates. I don't think you have thought that through very well. Plates on a car have NO expectation of privacy. Some states have only one plate in the back, others require a plate in the front and back. Neither have an expectation of privacy. They are there for the public to see. It is so public that most states in the union the cops have the freedom to run them without having to get a warrant and without having probably cause. They can just run them.
Some cop cars are equipped with automatic plate readers. I have seen some police stations that have readers in entry gates. So someone getting someone else's plate number is no big deal because anyone that is driving or parked, their plates are clearly visible for all to see. Just like many states have laws that says you can not obstruct any portion of your plates.
The ONLY time it would not be allowed is if they are going into a private property situation that is clearly marked or fenced in. Reading the plates is not the issue it is being in an unauthorized area that is clearly marked or fenced off.
Funny thing is most civilians do not have the ability to go into the various legal systems that allow them to view all of the persons information from a plate. However Police have that ability. They also have the ability to run your information which puts you into a legal database and many times without your consent or knowledge even if you did nothing wrong, you are still in that legal data base. Another example of rules for thee but not for me.

As far as someone finding a cop and killing them. If they want to find the cop they will find the cop. They more than likely will not be able to look up their info just because they filmed the guys plates. They probably would just follow the guy home. And in the very rare cases of that happening it pales in comparison to the number of times cops have killed people or even themselves. Not even close.

Furthermore as long as someone is in a public area they can view what ever they see. If they are on a sidewalk, easement or the like...whatever their eye or camera can see it is constitutional protected for them to film it.

I will also say you need to read and learn the first amendment. It has nothing to do with forums, private businesses and so on. So there is nothing hypocritical about it. If an auditor would go into a private business and start filming and the store employee asks them to leave, they need to leave, if they do not they can be charged with trespassing. This form is a forum that has rules. You and everyone else has signed up and accepted to abide by those rules. This forum is not a sidewalk or public forum where you have the right to address your grievances to your government. This site is not owned, funded or ran by any portion of the government.

As far as the insults to government employees by the auditors or those that just have interactions with the police. I don't particularly care for it myself either. That is why I have quit watching a large number of them. However I do understand that if one is threatened, have their rights violated, beaten or arrested when they are not doing anything illegal ...I would get upset as well and cuss them out. But just to start out with that kind of crap and insults is not needed and frankly is a blight on the auditors IMO. It makes it worse for those truly trying to educate others on their rights. There are way too many people that have no clue about their rights. And there are way too many cops that will take advantage of that very lack of education.

 

[jnday]

I have watched hundreds if not thousands of videos with people having interactions with police whether that be auditors or just someone who happens to be filming. I do not recall seeing one video where they are logging in all the officers names, shift changes and so on.

Concerning videoing plates. I don't think you have thought that through very well. Plates on a car have NO expectation of privacy. Some states have only one plate in the back, others require a plate in the front and back. Neither have an expectation of privacy. They are there for the public to see. It is so public that most states in the union the cops have the freedom to run them without having to get a warrant and without having probably cause. They can just run them.
Some cop cars are equipped with automatic plate readers. I have seen some police stations that have readers in entry gates. So someone getting someone else's plate number is no big deal because anyone that is driving or parked, their plates are clearly visible for all to see. Just like many states have laws that says you can not obstruct any portion of your plates.
The ONLY time it would not be allowed is if they are going into a private property situation that is clearly marked or fenced in. Reading the plates is not the issue it is being in an unauthorized area that is clearly marked or fenced off.
Funny thing is most civilians do not have the ability to go into the various legal systems that allow them to view all of the persons information from a plate. However Police have that ability. They also have the ability to run your information which puts you into a legal database and many times without your consent or knowledge even if you did nothing wrong, you are still in that legal data base. Another example of rules for thee but not for me.

As far as someone finding a cop and killing them. If they want to find the cop they will find the cop. They more than likely will not be able to look up their info just because they filmed the guys plates. They probably would just follow the guy home. And in the very rare cases of that happening it pales in comparison to the number of times cops have killed people or even themselves. Not even close.

Furthermore as long as someone is in a public area they can view what ever they see. If they are on a sidewalk, easement or the like...whatever their eye or camera can see it is constitutional protected for them to film it.

I will also say you need to read and learn the first amendment. It has nothing to do with forums, private businesses and so on. So there is nothing hypocritical about it. If an auditor would go into a private business and start filming and the store employee asks them to leave, they need to leave, if they do not they can be charged with trespassing. This form is a forum that has rules. You and everyone else has signed up and accepted to abide by those rules. This forum is not a sidewalk or public forum where you have the right to address your grievances to your government. This site is not owned, funded or ran by any portion of the government.

As far as the insults to government employees by the auditors or those that just have interactions with the police. I don't particularly care for it myself either. That is why I have quit watching a large number of them. However I do understand that if one is threatened, have their rights violated, beaten or arrested when they are not doing anything illegal ...I would get upset as well and cuss them out. But just to start out with that kind of crap and insults is not needed and frankly is a blight on the auditors IMO. It makes it worse for those truly trying to educate others on their rights. There are way too many people that have no clue about their rights. And there are way too many cops that will take advantage of that very lack of education.

I used to see things kinda like you until my lawyer told me of the threats that officers and lawyers get. In my little town, cops , lawyers and judges have been threatened and their families have been threatened. Houses and cars have been shot by people looking for revenge. There has been some officers shot or attacked while off duty. Society as a whole wouldn’t agree with people walking into a workplace and filming employees. It would be considered as being a big disturbance, but the laws allows those very things to happen to government buildings and employees. The laws needs to be changed in some circumstances to provide privacy for government employees. I am about as anti-government as anybody you will ever meet, but as a child I heard the shot that killed an off duty cop that was set up. They knew his work schedule and knew where to kill him. Nobody was ever arrested, but everybody knew that he was set up for knowing too much about an upcoming trial. The internet has made information much easier to find, but there a little bit of privacy wouldn’t hurt.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I used to see things kinda like you until my lawyer told me of the threats that officers and lawyers get. In my little town, cops , lawyers and judges have been threatened and their families have been threatened. Houses and cars have been shot by people looking for revenge. There has been some officers shot or attacked while off duty. Society as a whole wouldn’t agree with people walking into a workplace and filming employees. It would be considered as being a big disturbance, but the laws allows those very things to happen to government buildings and employees. The laws needs to be changed in some circumstances to provide privacy for government employees. I am about as anti-government as anybody you will ever meet, but as a child I heard the shot that killed an off duty cop that was set up. They knew his work schedule and knew where to kill him. Nobody was ever arrested, but everybody knew that he was set up for knowing too much about an upcoming trial. The internet has made information much easier to find, but there a little bit of privacy wouldn’t hurt.

And you can pretty much guarantee it was not an auditor murdering or attempting to murder those cops or those families. Wrong group.

Nut bags be nut bags.

And frankly there will be more cops getting hurt because many people are tired of being hurt by cops. Of having loved ones beat by cops. Of having loved ones being framed by cops planting drugs (Zach Wester comes to mind) and finally by those who have had loved ones be killed by cops only to see cops get off from a corrupt system or get a slap on the wrist.

Private Business does not need to put up with it because they are private business and you, I and others are not paying taxes to pay the salaries of those working in private businesses.

Social media and video can have its detractions and buttholes however the more people that video the cops in their job and interactions the better imo. We pay those salaries so we should be sure to hold them accountable instead of letting them investigate themselves as a biased entity and find nothing wrong.

Funny thing was I was squarely behind the cops and legal system. I am from an area that thankfully has had a pretty good police force over the years. A place that if a cop was bad, his fellow cops would make sure he was removed and did not cover it up. They put the community and their own standards above a bad cop.

Unfortunately there have been way too many cops around the country that have gotten away with way too many things for way too long. Now people are tired of it. Where before there was no video so it was the cops word and the courts and cop supports would always believe the cops. That is not always the case now. Hard to see a video of somethings that are truly bad and violating rights and still look the other way.

Time has started showing up where people are tired of the legal system and those in power just abusing them without consequences

 

[Jammer]

I used to really like watching these types of videos, until I tired of them. I got so annoyed at cops who do not know the law I would get too irritated to watch any more of them. How can you uphold the law when you don't know the law to begin with?

To clarify, I am usually on the police's side as I can only imagine what their day to day job is like, but just because you wear a badge doesn't mean you're better than everyone else.

 

[HungryLion]

I used to really like watching these types of videos, until I tired of them. I got so annoyed at cops who do not know the law I would get too irritated to watch any more of them. How can you uphold the law when you don't know the law to begin with?

To clarify, I am usually on the police's side as I can only imagine what their day to day job is like, but just because you wear a badge doesn't mean you're better than everyone else.

I was never a cop. I did work in a juvenile detention facility for teenage boys who committed heinous crimes, so i have some experience with criminal justice.


Some people are just there because it’s a job. Some people are good, dedicated people who care about their work.

I’m sure with cops it’s the same. Some are good and hard workers who care. Some may be in it for the power or just because it’s a job.


All that being said. Yeah I’m sure it’s extremely stressful. Seeing victims, murder victims, rape victims, the thread of violence against you. The emotional toll has to be incredible.

it was hard enough working in the detention facility. The emotional and mental toll it took. But we didn’t have to worry about some of the stuff cops on the street do.


With all that being said. Cops do have to be held accountable to the laws they are sworn to defend and to departmental policy. Despite the challenges.

but I am all for more support to help them do that and help them cope with the emotional stressors as well.