First Horse collar tackle penalty....

lurkercowboy

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Phoenix-Talon said:
I was not aware of that LC. I appreciate you not tearing my head off with that information. I'll remember that -- hope I can reciprocate the gesture. :)

Well, it is only August. Eagles fans and Cowboy fans can get along at least until opening day. :D
 

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lurkercowboy said:
Well, it is only August. Eagles fans and Cowboy fans can get along at least until opening day. :D

Absolutely NOT!!!! :iggles: :suxiggle: :fight: :chop: :war: :angryno: :disseags:


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Phoenix-Talon said:
We don't have to wait! Should your scenario come to pass, my response will be ..."I sure hope no one is hurt." Thanks for the opportunity, that wasn't difficult!;)
Sure, when Kearse is coming around the corner on 3rd and 17 with the OT pushing him outside. He'll reach out and grab the QB by collar as his only means to bring him down and here comes the flag. No harm done and you'll be breathing a sigh of relief after a 15 yard penalty and an automatic first down.
 

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By the way, in regards to the "horse collar" rule. If it hadn't been Roy on T.O. that publicized this thing, this rule never would have been put into place. In short...it stinks! :gassy1:
 

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Bull Frog said:
Sure, when Kearse is coming around the corner on 3rd and 17 with the OT pushing him outside. He'll reach out and grab the QB by collar as his only means to bring him down and here comes the flag. No harm done and you'll be breathing a sigh of relief after a 15 yard penalty and an automatic first down.

BF, lighten up with the drama already! Are you revealing things right out of your playbook, is this just your version of a conspiracy theory, or a death wish of some type? Chill, the season is upon us -- too much tension is not good for you; you could get injured:rolleyes:
 

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The refs will let you do it to a qb/rb on the line of scrimmage.

But Talon, did you see the call in the Bears game? I don't know how anyone who saw that call could say its good for the game.
 

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speedkilz88 said:
But Talon, did you see the call in the Bears game? I don't know how anyone who saw that call could say its good for the game.

SK88, I did see the call on last night's game. My discussion has mainly been generalized. I believe you! But again, the refs could have been trying to send out a statement. Sounds like a bad call.
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
BF, lighten up with the drama already! Are you revealing things right out of your playbook, is this just your version of a conspiracy theory, or a death wish of some type? Chill, the season is upon us -- too much tension is not good for you; you could get injured:rolleyes:
I am as chilled as they get. I should've put my disclaimer on the post. I wish facemasking and forearms to the head were still legal . . . not really. :)
 

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Bull Frog said:
I am as chilled as they get. I should've put my disclaimer on the post. I wish facemasking and forearms to the head were still legal . . . not really. :)

You're not "chilled" ...you're outright "cold."

Mods, request a Brrrrrrh ...Smiley Face with brittle cold vaporized condensed gas pertruding from the mouth (like the gaseous element that one can visibly see when they breathe very cold air outside), for this poster.

Sure, I'll hear from the mods on this recommendation also:rolleyes:
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
You're not "chilled" ...you're outright "cold."

Mods, request a Brrrrrrh ...Smiley Face with brittle cold vaporized condensed gas pertruding from the mouth (like the gaseous element that one can visibly see when they breathe very cold air outside), for this poster.

Sure, I'll hear from the mods on this recommendation also:rolleyes:

what's with the condescending tone and this little smirk :rolleyes: seems like you attach that to ALL of your posts? what gives? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
We don't have to wait! Should your scenario come to pass, my response will be ..."I sure hope no one is hurt." Thanks for the opportunity, that wasn't difficult!;)

Cool by me, as long as you are consistant.
 

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1fisher said:
what's with this little smirk :rolleyes:

Stop it 1fisher -- you know what :rolleyes: mean! But thanks for bringing :rolleyes: to my attention, I'll try to cut back on the use of :rolleyes:. :rolleyes:

Seriously though ...there's understandably a limit on the types of smiley face geared toward an appropriate comeback response from an opponent fan. Under the circumstances, I choose to use the most unitimidating smiley face gestures availableto accentuate points that would otherwise not provide the euphamistic touch to reduce harsh implications (flames).;)
 

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Ok, Julius catches the ball in the middle of the field right past the line of scrimmage at lets say the 30 yard line with time expiring and an Eagle linebacker horse-collars Julius, and the Cowboys now get the ball at the 15 with another play because of penalty, you can not tell me that you wouldn't be pissed, because you would, I sure as heck now I would be, that is if I were an Eagle fan :)

:trophy: :iggles:
 

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Ok, Julius catches the ball in the middle of the field right past the line of scrimmage at lets say the 30 yard line with time expiring and an Eagle linebacker horse-collars Julius, and the Cowboys now get the ball at the 15 with another play because of penalty, you can not tell me that you wouldn't be pissed, because you would, I sure as heck now I would be, that is if I were an Eagle fan :)

:trophy: :iggles:

He already answered that...


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Originally Posted by Phoenix-Talon
We don't have to wait! Should your scenario come to pass, my response will be ..."I sure hope no one is hurt." Thanks for the opportunity, that wasn't difficult!


Cool by me, as long as you are consistant.
 

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Jarv said:
Cool by me, as long as you are consistant.

But that's the problem Jarv ...I can't account for what other fans may do, no more than you can. One of the things I've learned being on this MB is that all Cowboy fans are different (some similar, but different), all Eagles fans are difference, all Giant fans are different, and all Skin fan are ...well that's another story (just kidding:D ) ...that's why I deal with everyone on this board as an individual -- the classy fans as well as the not so classy fans from any franchise fandom.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
 

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Listen, don't all of you jump down my throat all at once ...but, I'm actually in favor of outlawing any form of tackle that has a history of injuring NFL players. If outlawing the horse collar tackle will reduce the possibilty of injury, then I'm all for it!

Flame throwers would be quick to jump at an opportunity to suggest that I'm only saying that because of the 2004 T.O. injury. And it's true, while there have been several incidents of the Horsecollar tackle other than from Roy Williams, the T.O. injury probably is the "poster child" case; with Roy Williams' being tagged with the "signature tackle."

But if the poster child case is inflicted on a significant Cowboy's playmaker (I truly hope it doesn't), many of you (perhaps not everyone) would change their tune.

One more thought ...instead of focusing your energies on re-instating the now notorious outlawed horsecollar tackle, why not advocate the design on the uniform collar that retards this type of tackle. For example, let's take the face mask penalty. I'd like to see a newly designed face mask that prevents anyone from gripping it. Something that serves the same purpose, yet unlike the "bars" that go across the width of the helmet. Hence, the face-mask penalty would be a non-factor.

Just something to think about, and as usual ...a different perspective.

...you're already in a world of ...Full, Metal, Jacket) ...see it soon!

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RB Brian Westbrook

What a shock, your man love TO gets hurt by DADDY Roy Williams, and suddenly its "Lets ban that BS!!!!!". What a joke :rolleyes:
 

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I predict this rule will be overturned. It's stupid and people will come to realize it.

When has a rule ever been overturned?
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
E_H,

At least I understand what you were saying -- thanks for the great attempt. And indeed we are talking NFC Championship game ...not the NFC-East Title game!

Here's the breakdown for all who still may be confused ...

NFC - East Title ...Eagles versus Cowboys possiblility

NFC Championship Game ...Eagles only (you'll probably think that's a little biased -- that's ok, I'll understand). But the Point is only one team from the NFC-East can prevail! DB, indicated that the Eagles could play the Cowboys In the NFC CHampionship game -- I'm saying NO WAY (NFL Conference restrictions).

how's that possible if one team is the wildcard team???? :eek:
 
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