Twitter: Fish: Cowboys interview Dan Quinn

[TheMarathonContinues]

True but Diggs, Wilson, and Gregory are ascending.....

With all due respect to those guys....until they actually do it....they are nothing but subpar players....I think Gregory is better than that if available. Wilson and Diggs are flawed but if they continue to progress we can hope they can become legit starters.

 

[Praxit]

..when I see Quinn, all I see the Brady coming back from 25 point deficit in last quarter to win super bowl. That's a good glazed donut, to good to forget.

 

[dwreck27]

Ok, so he was Seattle's Legion of Boom D-Coordinator before he went to be head coach for the Falcons.

What happened in Atlanta? Where was his Legion of Boom there?

Injuries.

a lot of them on that side of the ball....

Not an excuse just have a good buddy who follows them very close the injury bug has been on them and has never left since that super bowl

 

[Cowboyny]

How is his scheme different from Marinelli's ???????

One serious plus about Marinelli's scheme is we were top 10 in scoring defense. Couldn't generate turnovers but teams did not score a lot of points.

The defensive line isn't going to be a 1 gap penetrating system:

LE-lines up directly over the Right Tackle as a 4 Tech. He has two gap responsibilities. Must be a strong run defender
NT-he lines up as the 0 Tech, directly over the Center, also two gaps (more of a traditional NT, not a 1 Tech Marinelli used)
3T-no changes
RE-the so called Leo position. Either stand-up or hand in the dirt 9 Tech that is a hybrid defensive end/outside linebacker-Gregory is an ideal fit

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

Seattle. He was the leader of the legion of boom.

that was more Pete Carroll than anything else. Tell me how Quinn went from Legion of Boom to that horrendous Falcons defense if he’s so great? He’s NOT. This is a HORRIBLE hire.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

The defensive line isn't going to be a 1 gap penetrating system:

LE-lines up directly over the Right Tackle as a 4 Tech. He has two gap responsibilities. Must be a strong run defender
NT-he lines up as the 0 Tech, directly over the Center, also two gaps (more of a traditional NT, not a 1 Tech Marinelli used)
3T-no changes
RE-the so called Leo position. Either stand-up or hand in the dirt 9 Tech that is a hybrid defensive end/outside linebacker-Gregory is an ideal fit

What current player fits?

 

[Cowboyny]

What current player fits?

We don't have one. You got to think a need for another starting off the ball linebacker as well, moving back to the 4-3 Base

 

[khiladi]

He didn’t create the Legion of Boom, he took over an already dominant defense that was built by Pete Carroll and Gus Brady over three years. And Pete Carrol has had control over personnel decisions. Wagner for example was drafted in 2012. When Dan Quinn inherited them, they were already the top-ranked scoring defense in the league. They were also the top -ranked scoring defense when Kris Richard coached them after Quinn left.

In fact, Dan Quinn left the Seahawks in 2011-2012, to go to Florida only to return as a position coach and this was the time the Seattle actually built the defense.

Seattle with the Legion of Boom pretty much used to rush four and not blitz and even when they did blitz, they were all-world effective at it. They were that good.

Since 2012, the Seahawks have blitzed -- a pass rush of five or more players -- on only 25 percent of opposing dropbacks. That's the sixth-lowest percentage in the league.

When they do send extra rushers, however, they get home at the best rate in football.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...nse-dominated-nfl-five-years-running-nfl-2016

 

[baltcowboy]

that was more Pete Carroll than anything else. Tell me how Quinn went from Legion of Boom to that horrendous Falcons defense if he’s so great? He’s NOT. This is a HORRIBLE hire.

He took the Falcons to the Super Bowl and if it wasn’t for the Rockstar offensive coordinator they would have won the game. Jerrah would sell his yacht to make it to the NFC championship game.

Falcons got old on offense and the defense got injured. That was Atlanta’s down fall.

 

[khiladi]

He took the Falcons to the Super Bowl and if it wasn’t for the Rockstar offensive coordinator they would have won the game. Jerrah would sell his yacht to make it to the NFC championship game.

Falcons got old on offense and the defense got injured. That was Atlanta’s down fall.

Well, they technically got to the SB because of that offense, meaning the rockstar OC, who also happened to take another team to the SB in the 49ers, while Dan Quinn collapsed in Atlanta without the same rockstar OC. And Atlanta, led by the same Dan Quinn, continued its tradition of blowing 4th quarter leads without that OC.

 

[baltcowboy]

Well, they technically got to the SB because of that offense, meaning the rockstar OC, who also happened to take another team to the SB in the 49ers, while Dan Quinn collapsed without the same rockstar OC.

Yeah having the MVP quarterback and the best wide receiver in the world didn’t help it was all Shanahan.

 

[khiladi]

Yeah having the MVP quarterback and the best wide receiver in the world didn’t help it was all Shanahan.

So what did Dan Quinn do without the legion of Boom? It’s no surprise that the “MVP quarterback” had his best year under that OC and so did that WR, while that same “MVP quarterback” continued to be known for continually choking away games, along with Dan Quinn, and both MR and JJ consistently are known for red-zone struggles. And SF had the best rushing attack with their HC with mediocre QB play by JG, who essentially blew the SB with his mediocre play.

If anything it was the 49ers that were completely ravaged by injuries, with 16 players returning from injured reserve next year. If Dan Quinn gets these injury excuses, what to say of KS in his second year?

https://www.49ers.com/news/49ers-in...-bosa-garoppolo-ford-hasty-jalen-hurd-mostert

 

[cowboyschmps3]

As long as he has zero part of the offense (still believe Shannahan and Ryan were the primary blane to their SB collapse) I'm all for Quinn being the DC.

This and I hope he can bring #22 .

 

[baltcowboy]

So what did Dan Quinn do without the legion of Boom? It’s no surprise that the “MVP quarterback” had his best year under that OC and so did that WR, while that same “MVP quarterback” continued to be known for continually choking away games, along with Dan Quinn, and both MR and JJ consistently are known for red-zone struggles. And SF had the best rushing attack with their HC with mediocre QB play by JG, who essentially blew the SB with his mediocre play.

If anything it was the 49ers that were completely ravaged by injuries, with 16 players returning from injured reserve next year. If Dan Quinn gets these injury excuses, what to say of KS in his second year?

https://www.49ers.com/news/49ers-in...-bosa-garoppolo-ford-hasty-jalen-hurd-mostert

That’s the whole point of the argument. Talent wins all. Shanahan is trash with the backup quarterback starting. Quinn will struggle with this defense unless we bring in talent. I would rather have Quinn then anyone else that is out there to coach this D.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Bill Billicheck is the GOAT. You want a coach of his caliber to walk in that door as DC, you are going to be very disappointed

Belichick wasn't the GOAT when he lost his first head coach gig with the Browns, but even back then, everyone knew of his defensive genius.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Firstly, i wouldn't be so dismissive about legion of boom. It's very possible the falcons fo wanted to concentrate on offense just like the cowboys. The interview should concentrate on what he would do here. What playwrs would keep? What do you see as positions of need. Quinn, imo, would be a good choice.

Bro, did you take any pics of your hunting trip?

 

[phildadon86]

..when I see Quinn, all I see the Brady coming back from 25 point deficit in last quarter to win super bowl. That's a good glazed donut, to good to forget.

Yeah that had nothing to do with Kyle Shannahan not running the ball.

 

[khiladi]

That’s the whole point of the argument. Talent wins all. Shanahan is trash with the backup quarterback starting. Quinn will struggle with this defense unless we bring in talent. I would rather have Quinn then anyone else that is out there to coach this D.

No hard feelings, if I am coming off as harsh. Just to point out:

Nobody on this planet says talent doesn’t win. A good coach is one who maximizes talent as best as possible. The point is DQ has never picked any talent and it’s the defensive side of the ball, which is supposedly his specialty, that has been consistently folding in Atlanta even without KS. And it was the Atlanta offense that took them to the SB and built that huge lead. And Matt Ryan and JJ continue to fold without KS, while under KS they maximized their talent. KS also led the 49ers to the Sb and while of course, their defense was amazing, KS brought a lot of originality to that 49ers defense that shows what he can do. The guy right run the ball in Atlanta, to developing one of the best running games in the league with the zone blocking schemes he inherited from his father.

Even in Seattle, the Seahawks basically just rushed 4 and hardly blitzed. That defense was built by Carroll and Bradley, not Quinn.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Not a fan of this choice...Dan Quinn known for blowing big leads...meh....nothing to see here.

Exactly! How quickly so many have forgotten that about Quinn...blowing so many big leads. Hard pass.

 

[khiladi]

Again, to those that keep bringing up Atlanta choking in the SB.. Well yes, they did, but the defense also collapsed and Atlanta is STILL BLOWING FOURTH QUARTER LEADS, with their defense and Matt Ryan and JJ are still choking.