Fish on 105.3 the fan - Witten/Dez/Randle

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So let me get this straight, a guy who strikes his mother (as awful as that is) is supposed to get he same punishment as one who kills someone? Is this Randle's logic?

No.

It's him lying to himself, trying to justify his screw-up by pointing out how others have screwed-up.

Cowards often use the tactic in an effort to justify themselves or to absolve themselves of what they've done.

Most often, they're the only ones who believe what they're shoveling...
 

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Oh but I would've loved to have been a fly on the wall when he walked into the lockerroom after that video came out.

Or better yet to witness what the exchange was like between him and Dez...

I don't even like popcorn, but I would've had to get some for that.

Yeah, you have to feel for Dez, getting sucked into this out of nowhere.
 

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No.

It's him lying to himself, trying to justify his screw-up by pointing out how others have screwed-up.

Cowards often use the tactic in an effort to justify themselves or to absolve themselves of what they've done.

Most often, they're the only ones who believe what they're shoveling...

He's not justifying. He's putting it into context when he didn't know there was a camera on him. He's right that his offense is relatively minor relative to what some of his teammates have done. Dez is a superstar, but Brent's a player on more or less the same footing as Randle. It's relevant that both of those players are playing after much more serious incidents.
 

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Yeah, you have to feel for Dez, getting sucked into this out of nowhere.

Well, I wouldn't go that far. If you got any dirt on you, there's always a chance someone is gonna kick some of it up occasionally.

I was just thinking about the conversation itself.
 

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Well, I wouldn't go that far. If you got any dirt on you, there's always a chance someone is gonna kick some of it up occasionally.

I was just thinking about the conversation itself.

Dez deserved what he got for his incident, for sure. But we were past that, and now he's back and going to be answering questions about it because of what was said on a hidden camera after a shoplifting arrest. It's a shame.
 

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Dez deserved what he got for his incident, for sure. But we were past that, and now he's back and going to be answering questions about it because of what was said on a hidden camera after a shoplifting arrest. It's a shame.

Forgive me for not being THAT sympathetic about it. I like Dez's growth and maturity he's shown this year, but you can't run away from your past. You embrace it and grow from it.

That said, I doubt he'll be asked about it, because Cowboys PR team can put a kibosh on any questions like that pre-interview.
 

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Yeah. I think he'd be cut this week if he weren't the only other RB who can pass protect and play STs. Even so, it's becoming a toss-up. We're a thinner team if we cut him, though, so I hope we don't.

His fumble was killer last week. The run that led up to it was really impressive, though. He's a nifty little running back who can hit on kickoff coverage. I don't want to lose him for shoplifting.

Oh, it wouldn't be for shoplifting at this point. He would definitely NOT be cut for shoplifting. But the comments about his teammates? Dude is alienating himself and that is apparently one of the strengths of this team, the locker room culture. Tashard had some talent too, wasn't worth the distractions. I know what you mean though, it hurts the team from a talent standpoint and we absolutely need to keep Romo safe. Dunno what the right call is, guess it depends on how bad he is around the team.
 

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He's not justifying. He's putting it into context when he didn't know there was a camera on him.

And why? In a vain attempt to minimize his own stupidity. To try to weasel his way out of his own mistakes.

He's right that his offense is relatively minor relative to what some of his teammates have done. Dez is a superstar, but Brent's a player on more or less the same footing as Randle. It's relevant that both of those players are playing after much more serious incidents.

It's not relevant to what Randle did. That was his mistake and his alone.

It has nothing to do with Bryant or Brent. Nothing.

This was simply a child trying to escape owning his own mistake by pointing out the mistakes of others.

He followed up one idiotic move with another, and may have created a toxic situation for himself on the team and in the locker room resulting in him losing his job.
 

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He's not justifying. He's putting it into context when he didn't know there was a camera on him. He's right that his offense is relatively minor relative to what some of his teammates have done. Dez is a superstar, but Brent's a player on more or less the same footing as Randle. It's relevant that both of those players are playing after much more serious incidents.

Was there some difference in the treatment? maybe, could that irritate him? possibly, did he know the camera was on him? maybe not.

But where he loses me is taking it to the practice field and talking trash about two team mates to the point Witten tells HIM he needs to shut up.

And it does appear to me he is looking for some moral or treatment equivalence. When in fact he should be saying I screwed up, I own it and I am going to put my head down and do better (like those 2 players have done), kind of like what he said he was going to do in his released statement when he wanted people to forgive him.

Instead he keeps it going.

It is not the mistake, it is what you do about it.

And oh by the way Mr. Randle, who ever said life was fair.
 
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Oh but I would've loved to have been a fly on the wall when he walked into the lockerroom after that video came out.

Or better yet to witness what the exchange was like between him and Dez...

I don't even like popcorn, but I would've had to get some for that.

I would have liked to been a fly on the wall.... but, you don't like popcorn? Or is that just a metaphor for T.O.?
 

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I love how this team is handling him though.

Top players putting him in his place and now Garrett bringing him in for a closed-door meeting.
 
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