Fisher Comment On G-Bag Nation 105.3 Today

[TwoDeep3]

Quote me please, because I don't think I said that. I stated the "win now" mentality has gotten us in trouble before.

This is what we did when we traded for Galloway and Williams. - are these your words?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Bernadeau and Livings were whiffs that should have been evident to almost anyone who has ever seen a football.

Nobody gets every personnel decision right. But it's pretty comical to state that this team hasn't tried (and been fairly successful) in retooling the entire line 3 years into the rebuild. All while adding a fairly impressive number of playmakers to both the offense and defense.

 

[Fansince64]

Nobody gets every personnel decision right. But it's pretty comical to state that this team hasn't tried (and been fairly successful) in retooling the entire line 3 years into the rebuild. All while adding a fairly impressive number of playmakers to both the offense and defense.

Not sure about you, but my definition of "fairly successful" does NOT include having at least 1 free rusher (most often, right up the A gap) on most passing downs (see DAL @ WAS, wk17 of 2013 if you don't know what I am referring to). This is what has been happening during 2010, 2011 and 2012. Perhaps your definition is only 1 free rusher is "fairly successful" while more than 1 is not. If so, we'll agree to disagree.


Monte Sliger

 

[Idgit]

Nobody gets every personnel decision right. But it's pretty comical to state that this team hasn't tried (and been fairly successful) in retooling the entire line 3 years into the rebuild. All while adding a fairly impressive number of playmakers to both the offense and defense.

It's really been pretty impressive what the team has done to rebuild the roster on the fly with the holes we had back in 2010. It's awfully hard to judge anything from preseason, but it seems like Free might be returning to form and we *might* have hit on both Leary and Frederick. If so, our protection ought to be much better this season, zone blitzes from WAS in week 17, or no. And we added a couple skill players to help beat more of those blitzes, to boot.

 

[Fredd]

the question is whether waters is that much of an upgrade over berny at this point in his career. On paper, sure he is, but he is a very short-term solution. regardless of he or berny, we need a long-term solution at OG next season

I am hopeful that Leary heals quickly and gets back on the field against the Giants, then we could be OK on the OL with Waters manning the other OG spot...I just DON'T want to lose that first game at home to the G-men....living in Eagles/Giants/Steelers territory is no fun when you lose to one of them

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Not sure about you, but my definition of "fairly successful" does NOT include having at least 1 free rusher (most often, right up the A gap) on most passing downs (see DAL @ WAS, wk17 of 2013 if you don't know what I am referring to). This is what has been happening during 2010, 2011 and 2012. Perhaps your definition is only 1 free rusher is "fairly successful" while more than 1 is not. If so, we'll agree to disagree.


Monte Sliger

So you have no idea how difficult it is to rebuild on the fly?

I'm not sure any team in the league has done more to improve their short and long term prospects.

But hey on the ADD world you inhabit the last two years have shown no discernable team improvement.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

It's really been pretty impressive what the team has done to rebuild the roster on the fly with the holes we had back in 2010. It's awfully hard to judge anything from preseason, but it seems like Free might be returning to form and we *might* have hit on both Leary and Frederick. If so, our protection ought to be much better this season, zone blitzes from WAS in week 17, or no. And we added a couple skill players to help beat more of those blitzes, to boot.

Agreed.

Which team is the better team at this point, the one that played Washington in week 17 and just missed the playoffs or this one?

I think the answer is obvious.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

You must be mistaken. The "hurt feelings card" you talk about is more of a "I want football players who love to play the game" card. Your winning at any cost sounds good, but makes us more financially strapped. If we pay 2 guards a decent amount of money to start, wth are we gonna do with Leary? Leary is starter material who will be ready by week 1.

That and we've played the 'win at any cost' card before (and in recent years) and have gotten burned by it.

I'd rather see Leary start if we could because he's young and has a lot of upside. He's not going to get better by being on the bench. Waters hasn't played football in a year. That's a long time when you're his age to not play football.

The other part to this is if we pay Moore or Waters, and then somebody else goes down...then we are really strapped to find a replacement.





RH

 

[MichaelWinicki]

That and we've played the 'win at any cost' card before (and in recent years) and have gotten burned by it.

I'd rather see Leary start if we could because he's young and has a lot of upside. He's not going to get better by being on the bench. Waters hasn't played football in a year. That's a long time when you're his age to not play football.

The other part to this is if we pay Moore or Waters, and then somebody else goes down...then we are really strapped to find a replacement.





RH

Valid points.

 

[CowboyDiver]

Message board sourpuss complains, complains, complains then suddenly buys into team, thinks we need to throw all our chips into the middle of the table. Think I have heard this one before.

Speaking in generality of course, not in particular about OP.

I think the stable course of building slowly is the way to go....this team has gone 8-8 while basically going through a roster makeover. A couple years ago, maybe even last year before the season started there was a beat writer or two that mentioned we were rebuilding and people scoffed. Certainly seems to be the case...we have a lot of young talent and some still excellent vets on the team. Maybe we don't have a QB of the future, but we have a QB of the present. Maybe our window is just opening...there really isn't a reason to think that our older vets like Romo, Ware, Witten, can't play at a high level for 2-3 years while the young vets like Bryant, Lee, Carter, Claiborne, Murray, Frederick, Smith, etc get better.

Not sure that now is the proper time to throw all caution to the wind.

 

[Alexander]

Moore had his chance. I would rather have Leary there on the cheap. I'm fine with bringing in Waters.

Agreed. It would not be smart to rent two old guards.

 

[tupperware]

So you have no idea how difficult it is to rebuild on the fly?

I'm not sure any team in the league has done more to improve their short and long term prospects.

But hey on the ADD world you inhabit the last two years have shown no discernable team improvement.

Considering we were 8-8 in both of them, yeah, no improvement.

 

[noshame]

The difference being Jerry has surrounded himself with football people, adding critical pieces at this point can be the link we need. In past years, not so much.

 

[conner01]

signing both would be very tough. not only the fact you wipe out your cap room you need to carry over for next year to sign lee and dez but who do you cut to make room for 2 more guards? you have to consider contracts when you cut people and cutting both bernie and livings to make room won't work

 

[InmanRoshi]

There's always an excuse for doing as little as possible along the OL.

I want you to imagine the same situation but at ...~gulp~ ....cornerback.

See the urgency now?

You mean like going all of camp with an oft injured former 5th rounder at a starting CB spot, and an undrafted free agent journeyman starting in nickel subpackages? To go along with a pair of starting safeties composed of a former undrafted free agent coming off an Achillies Tear and a vet journeyman who hasn't been a full time starter in the league since 2006? You mean like playing Saturday Night's game with a starting secondary subpackage 5 of a former 4th rounder, two former 5th rounders, and two former undrafted free agents?

Yeah, I can't imagine it. I wonder what that would be like.

 

[CowboyDiver]

Considering we were 8-8 in both of them, yeah, no improvement.

One was an 8-8 team on the decline, the other is 8-8 on the rise. There is a difference.

 

[jterrell]

Dallas can NOT sign BOTH Waters and Moore.
That is silly talk.

It would be nice to be able to play them against each other.--for salary purposes.

But at this point Moore is retired and the best course of action seems to be to get Waters to Valley Ranch the day the team lands.

We are thin at CB, QB, Safety, DL, OL right now.
That happens in pre-season.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I just DON'T want to lose that first game at home to the G-men....living in Eagles/Giants/Steelers territory is no fun when you lose to one of them

It's no fun to lose to one of those teams no matter where you live.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

don't get the love for waters....he has been out of football for a year. everyone is living in fantasy world, if they think he is going to come in and be any good. and how much better than what we have already? they thinkhe puts on clits and he is waters of 2, 3 or 4 years ago. that's not the case. if he was any good, there would be more teams beating down his door. guess what. they are not.

and moore decided he didn't want to play. his heart isn't in it. throwing more money ain't going to put his heart in it. just his mind.

Fisher has a fifteen minute section on 105.3 at roughly 7:15p - 7:30p M-F.

Today he spoke about the offensive line and Waters. He suggested with Leary out for a scope that they should be moving to sign Waters quickly. He also stated that with every phone call they make to Waters his price inches up.

However, one of the hosts on G-Bag Nation said they should make every effort to sign both Waters and Moore. He continued by saying they needed to call back and sweeten the pot.

Fish said that would be about 5 million of the 7 million cap space they have. And that there is Lee and Dez and Smith who are in line to be redone.

The Host stated that this is a make or break year and every effort to get the line right should be taken.

The one curious thing was that Fish did not shoot them down about Moore or the fact that he retired. He rolled with the question and answered it in a context of a possibility it might be possible.

Now this is merely speculation, but if this were possible, and I were the GM, I would immediately rework someone else and get that done.

I think there will be a ton of people being re-upped or released next year. I think the opportunity is now for this team if they can get solid play from the line.

I want to win, and frankly win now instead of making plans for tomorrow that might not come. But that is my opinion only. And I did read the story about Moore and his decision.

 

[Denim Chicken]

don't get the love for waters....he has been out of football for a year. everyone is living in fantasy world, if they think he is going to come in and be any good. and how much better than what we have already? they thinkhe puts on clits and he is waters of 2, 3 or 4 years ago. that's not the case. if he was any good, there would be more teams beating down his door. guess what. they are not.

and moore decided he didn't want to play. his heart isn't in it. throwing more money ain't going to put his heart in it. just his mind.

Fresh takes right there.