Fisher Comment On G-Bag Nation 105.3 Today

[erod]

don't get the love for waters....he has been out of football for a year. everyone is living in fantasy world, if they think he is going to come in and be any good. and how much better than what we have already? they thinkhe puts on clits and he is waters of 2, 3 or 4 years ago. that's not the case. if he was any good, there would be more teams beating down his door. guess what. they are not.

and moore decided he didn't want to play. his heart isn't in it. throwing more money ain't going to put his heart in it. just his mind.

Peyton Manning did it. Players miss seasons all the time because of injury. Waters has no injury history, and he's said to be in good shape.

Waters is a rare NFL player in that he took care of his money. He's not a desperate fool like TO that would play for pocket lint. He wants his value, and he wants to play here.

 

[coult44]

Fellas, Fellas, Fellas. We've been rebuilding for at least 17 years. How many more years do you want to keep building until you say, WIN NOW YEAR? I will question ANYONE who can honestly say that at the end of last year you thought we would only have ONE more offensive lineman when the next season began. Oh, "we tried" to sign Moore, and "we tried" to sign Waters. BIG DEAL. The bottom line is we didn't sign anyone. There were PLENTY of options available to fix this OL during the last 7-8 months. Other than the Terrance Williams pick, we should have used EVERY other pick on offensive lineman. I cracked up when I read we signed the best free agent on the market a few years ago...Are you talking about FREE? LOL.....Seriously, Free??? I hope Frederick grows into a pro bowler, but he was a projected 3rd rounder, just so happens we drafted him in the 1st. STOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPP trying to defend the way this team has handled the OL the past two seasons. There are plenty of other things you can defend JJ and the Boyz on..Not the OL...........oh by the way, OR THE SAFETY!!!

 

[Idgit]

Fellas, Fellas, Fellas. We've been rebuilding for at least 17 years. How many more years do you want to keep building until you say, WIN NOW YEAR? I will question ANYONE who can honestly say that at the end of last year you thought we would only have ONE more offensive lineman when the next season began. Oh, "we tried" to sign Moore, and "we tried" to sign Waters. BIG DEAL. The bottom line is we didn't sign anyone. There were PLENTY of options available to fix this OL during the last 7-8 months. Other than the Terrance Williams pick, we should have used EVERY other pick on offensive lineman. I cracked up when I read we signed the best free agent on the market a few years ago...Are you talking about FREE? LOL.....Seriously, Free??? I hope Frederick grows into a pro bowler, but he was a projected 3rd rounder, just so happens we drafted him in the 1st. STOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPP trying to defend the way this team has handled the OL the past two seasons. There are plenty of other things you can defend JJ and the Boyz on..Not the OL...........oh by the way, OR THE SAFETY!!!

I thought we'd add two: Moore and a draft pick. That said, I don't think the OL was the primary reason we lost games to good teams last season, and I think the amount of emotional energy that gets spent on OG play on this message board in the offseason is just silly.

Fix the turnover differential. Fix the pass defense. Do what you can to streamline the pass rush, and develop good, young players across the roster wherever you can, and we're going to be fine. The consistency of having a starting C who's our first option instead of our 4th and who actually attended our training camp before starting the season for us alone is a huge upgrade to the situation we came out of camp with last season.

Also, we haven't been rebuilding for 17 years. We haven't had significant success during that 17 year span, but we haven't been rebuilding during its entirety, either. When can we finally focus on the current team and the current organization and its relative progress without trotting out the Dave Campo years as if the two teams are somehow connected by anything other than their proximity on the Dallas Cowboys timeline? They're not.

 

[CowboyDiver]

don't get the love for waters....he has been out of football for a year. everyone is living in fantasy world, if they think he is going to come in and be any good. and how much better than what we have already? they thinkhe puts on clits and he is waters of 2, 3 or 4 years ago. that's not the case. if he was any good, there would be more teams beating down his door. guess what. they are not.

and moore decided he didn't want to play. his heart isn't in it. throwing more money ain't going to put his heart in it. just his mind.

Why is Waters automatically worse because he sat out a year, a year in which by all accounts he continued to work out and keep himself in shape. It isn't like the guy sat on the couch eating potato chips.

He was a Pro Bowler the last time he played. Why should be suddenly be a schlub that can't beat out a low level player like Bernadeau or Arkin? It makes no sense.

I think Moore was more likely the guy that was going to have to round back into shape because there was no indication he had done any offseason work.

 

[BigStar]

Sign Waters, it is called covering your bases, which this team refuses to do. A 1 year 5 mil contract will not kill this team, posters act as if it is their money...there is no throwing away of the future. We have been so inactive in FA towards quality OL, would it really hurt to add a veteran OL with proven skill over these washed scrubs? Arkin has slowly developed to finally be a back-up, and Leary will always be iffy with the knee. Bern? Really? That's when you know we have settled for trash on the OL. I'd rather not "get by" as many have said with the current group. That seems to be a recurring trend that has resulted in back to back 8-8 seasons. Try something a little different, and add resources towards the line. Drafting two lineman in the first round the last 3 years is a start and was only needed because of the neglect shown to developing the position for so long.

 

[boysfanindc]

Sign Waters, it is called covering your bases, which this team refuses to do. A 1 year 5 mil contract will not kill this team, posters act as if it is their money...there is no throwing away of the future. We have been so inactive in FA towards quality OL, would it really hurt to add a veteran OL with proven skill over these washed scrubs? Arkin has slowly developed to finally be a back-up, and Leary will always be iffy with the knee. Bern? Really? That's when you know we have settled for trash on the OL. I'd rather not "get by" as many have said with the current group. That seems to be a recurring trend that has resulted in back to back 8-8 seasons. Try something a little different, and add resources towards the line. Drafting two lineman in the first round the last 3 years is a start and was only needed because of the neglect shown to developing the position for so long.

I don't think posters are acting like it is there money, I believe what concerns most is that if you throw as you stated $5M at Waters, how does that impact your ability to sign Lee, Carter, Dez etc to extensions.

Salary cap is a reality and what you spend money on today does impact what kind of money you have next year.

I would love to get Waters in here for a reasonable dollar amount, but there has to be some prudence to what you are willing to spend or you will not have money to to extend the guys you want too.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I don't think posters are acting like it is there money, I believe what concerns most is that if you throw as you stated $5M at Waters, how does that impact your ability to sign Lee, Carter, Dez etc to extensions.

Salary cap is a reality and what you spend money on today does impact what kind of money you have next year.

I would love to get Waters in here for a reasonable dollar amount, but there has to be some prudence to what you are willing to spend or you will not have money to to extend the guys you want too.

This.

It's documented that the Cowboys are interested. The question is: How much does the guy want?

Jerry has mentioned he would like to re-sign Lee this year so he can roll some of his salary into this year's cap. Next year's cap will be a challenge so saving money for guys like Lee and Bryant makes much more financial sense than signing a guy for $5 Mil, even if he can still play.

 

[Risen Star]

Bernadeau and Livings were whiffs that should have been evident to almost anyone who has ever seen a football.

They were also spare parts. We shopped Rodeo Dr. for cornerbacks that year then went to Walmart for offensive linemen.

Had you reversed that we'd be significantly better today.

 

[Alexander]

Why is Waters automatically worse because he sat out a year, a year in which by all accounts he continued to work out and keep himself in shape. It isn't like the guy sat on the couch eating potato chips.

He was a Pro Bowler the last time he played. Why should be suddenly be a schlub that can't beat out a low level player like Bernadeau or Arkin? It makes no sense.

I think Moore was more likely the guy that was going to have to round back into shape because there was no indication he had done any offseason work.

Where is this proof that Waters is in better shape after a year off than Moore, who is less than 8 months from an NFL weight room? A Blogging The Boys tweet? Someone that saw him at the Albertson's in Waxahachie?

 

[Risen Star]

You mean like going all of camp with an oft injured former 5th rounder at a starting CB spot, and an undrafted free agent journeyman starting in nickel subpackages? To go along with a pair of starting safeties composed of a former undrafted free agent coming off an Achillies Tear and a vet journeyman who hasn't been a full time starter in the league since 2006? You mean like playing Saturday Night's game with a starting secondary subpackage 5 of a former 4th rounder, two former 5th rounders, and two former undrafted free agents?

Yeah, I can't imagine it. I wonder what that would be like.

Don't know why you mentioned safeties. I said cornerbacks.

No team in football has invested more in their top 3 cornerbacks than the Cowboys. 50 million for Carr. The 6th overall pick and a 2nd rounder for Claiborne, Scandrick has a 20 million dollar contract.

Meanwhile we've been fielding complete slop like Costa, Bernadeau and Livings along the OL. While waiting for gems like Nagy, Arkin, Kowalski and Parnell to develop.

We've been trying to field an OL on the cheap while investing lavishly, and foolishly, at the CB position.

 

[5Stars]

Don't know why you mentioned safeties. I said cornerbacks.

No team in football has invested more in their top 3 cornerbacks than the Cowboys. 50 million for Carr. The 6th overall pick and a 2nd rounder for Claiborne, Scandrick has a 20 million dollar contract.

Meanwhile we've been fielding complete slop like Costa, Bernadeau and Livings along the OL. While waiting for gems like Nagy, Arkin, Kowalski and Parnell to develop.

We've been trying to field an OL on the cheap while investing lavishly, and foolishly, at the CB position.

As much as you complain about the oline, your are kinda of right.

 

[TwoDeep3]

That said, I don't think the OL was the primary reason we lost games to good teams last season,

There are always those who wish to rewrite history. No running game what so ever and Romo scrambling for his life.

Yes, I can see how we didn't have a succotash offensive line last year.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Where is this proof that Waters is in better shape after a year off than Moore, who is less than 8 months from an NFL weight room? A Blogging The Boys tweet? Someone that saw him at the Albertson's in Waxahachie?

I've had the same thoughts as we keep getting peppered with this "Hey I heard Waters is competing for the Mr. Universe title" malarkey that isn't at all verifiable.

 

[Frosty]

Don't know why you mentioned safeties. I said cornerbacks.

No team in football has invested more in their top 3 cornerbacks than the Cowboys. 50 million for Carr. The 6th overall pick and a 2nd rounder for Claiborne, Scandrick has a 20 million dollar contract.

Meanwhile we've been fielding complete slop like Costa, Bernadeau and Livings along the OL. While waiting for gems like Nagy, Arkin, Kowalski and Parnell to develop.

We've been trying to field an OL on the cheap while investing lavishly, and foolishly, at the CB position.

Absolutely agree,,,,,,,Never forget this is the Jerry Jones Cowboys ERA he has built HIS team like the late Al Davis built the RAIDERS..... I really try hard to be positive about the Cowboys but its always starts with Superbowl or bust and ends saying we are going to make changes in the off season....all glamour no foundation to build on..... nothing new..

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I don't think posters are acting like it is there money, I believe what concerns most is that if you throw as you stated $5M at Waters, how does that impact your ability to sign Lee, Carter, Dez etc to extensions.

Salary cap is a reality and what you spend money on today does impact what kind of money you have next year.

That's exactly right.

The cap matters.

What you have here is a bunch of folks who think "budget" is a motel and nothing more.

 

[Fletch]

1. Bern is trash

2. What happens next year is next year's issue. This is about this year.

The pieces are in place right now and with a potent defense and an offense that can protect Romo, this team could be a viable football club for the NFC berth in the Super Bowl.

This is about now, not tomorrow.

I usually disagree with you on a lot, but this post is pretty much spot on. I think Bern is serviceable, but other than that, this is the time to fix the line. Can we rely on Leary? All the more reason to get Moore back on the phone, or bring in Waters ASAP.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

There are always those who wish to rewrite history. No running game what so ever and Romo scrambling for his life.

Yes, I can see how we didn't have a succotash offensive line last year.

I agree with the running game thing... The passing game? No so much. The numbers for the passing game were excellent. Aaron Rodgers led the league in passer rating and was dropped 15 times more than Romo.

Now back to the running game... I think the problem was much more to do with the worst run blocking center in the league than it was the guards... You can also blame the tackles for the some of the running game woes... Not too mention the injuries to all the running backs.

Yes the offensive line needs to be better... And it is. I feel confident in typing that.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I usually disagree with you on a lot, but this post is pretty much spot on. I think Bern is serviceable, but other than that, this is the time to fix the line. Can we rely on Leary? All the more reason to get Moore back on the phone, or bring in Waters ASAP.

The fact is that's the nature of the beast in today's NFL YOU ARE going to have to rely on untested players. The salary cap and roster-size limitations demand it.

 

[Hoofbite]

don't get the love for waters....he has been out of football for a year. everyone is living in fantasy world, if they think he is going to come in and be any good. and how much better than what we have already? they thinkhe puts on clits and he is waters of 2, 3 or 4 years ago. that's not the case. if he was any good, there would be more teams beating down his door. guess what. they are not.

and moore decided he didn't want to play. his heart isn't in it. throwing more money ain't going to put his heart in it. just his mind.

What's he putting on?

 

[Afigueroa22]

This is what we did when we traded for Galloway and Williams. - are these your words?

I don't think that says," giving up draft picks is the same as signing two linemen."