Twitter: Fisher: Cowboys open to idea of pursuit of DT Damon "Snacks" Harrison

[gjkoeppen]

96 of the TOP 101 free agents, not ALL available free agents. Do you really believe there are only 101 free agents available in the whole league? SMH

No and nobody said that it did. That's your little thinking. Most people know that when talking about the list of 101 free agents they are referring the TOP 101 free agents. But when there are 95 players thought of being better that's not saying a great deal about that player.
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[gjkoeppen]

sacks doesn't matter at the 1T as long as you're getting a push up the middle, as a NT he's main job is to draw double teams and not get washed. he played as a 3-4 NT occupying 2 blockers the first 4 years of his career how many sacks are you suspecting he should've had? The 3 years in New York he was a monster in the middle , then in Detroit he switch between a DT/NT. His job has never been about sacks, and wouldn't be here , so his sacks don't matter. to add the guy played on 1 coverage snap all of 2018

Your logic on playing NT on a 3-4 defense is somewhat true. On passing downs those defenses usually either also rushed a LB or sent in another DL so the 2 on 1 on passing downs wasn't always true. The real affect of the big nose tackle was on running plays. Now the lions and giants both run 4-3 defenses so that 2 on 1 didn't hold true there all that much either. Yes interior linemen in 4-3 defenses get doubled team sometimes just like offenses slide protection towards a DE who gets a lot of sacks just as often. The good interior linemen in 4-3 defenses do get sacks by collapsing the pocket right up the middle. The good interior linemen get anywhere from 6 - 8 sacks a season Jones in KC has been both a 3-4 and 4-3 DT and as a 4-3 DT in 2018 had 15.5 sacks for the season. Cox in philly in a 4-3 defense in 2018 had 10.5 sacks. Your using the same logic that was employed when teams fist started running 3-4 defenses but just like the play in all the other positions has gotten better and expectations are higher over the years so has those for the NT.
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[gjkoeppen]

Ummm, at some point a few of you have to realize that not all DT’s are there to collect sacks. Nate Newton said it so well on either Hangin’ w/ the Boys or Talkin’ Cowboys - basic gist was those fat boys in the middle are just as if not MORE valuable than pure pass rushers in the middle because the usually destroy the inside running game and, in the passing game, they stop the QB from stepping up in the pocket, leaving them easy pickings for the edge rushers. Nate said those guys were his toughest assignment and that he knew how to let upfield guys run themselves out of plays. Something Dallas’ DLine has been doing for years (see Rams Playoff game)

First off I never mention a thing about the DT and the running game. That has always been their job on running plays to clog the middle. But a funny thing, not ha ha funny, that the good DL in the league also get sacks. Jones in KC in 2018 had 15.5 sacks and Cox in philly in 2018 had 10.5 sacks. Nobody here, including me, is saying the DT has to get double digit sacks every year but more than 1 or 2 isn't asking that much. Not only do the good DT collapse the middle and get sacks, they often do it so quickly that because of the edge rushers also starting to bare down on the QB he has no place to go so the DT gets his sacks.
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[NorthwestDallas40]

No and nobody said that it did. That's your little thinking. Most people know that when talking about the list of 101 free agents they are referring the TOP 101 free agents. But when there are 95 players thought of being better that's not saying a great deal about that player.
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There were 620 free agents this year. Being 96 overall says a great deal, son

 

[Carson]

Just sign the man already!

 

[Dre11]

Your logic on playing NT on a 3-4 defense is somewhat true. On passing downs those defenses usually either also rushed a LB or sent in another DL so the 2 on 1 on passing downs wasn't always true. The real affect of the big nose tackle was on running plays. Now the lions and giants both run 4-3 defenses so that 2 on 1 didn't hold true there all that much either. Yes interior linemen in 4-3 defenses get doubled team sometimes just like offenses slide protection towards a DE who gets a lot of sacks just as often. The good interior linemen in 4-3 defenses do get sacks by collapsing the pocket right up the middle. The good interior linemen get anywhere from 6 - 8 sacks a season Jones in KC has been both a 3-4 and 4-3 DT and as a 4-3 DT in 2018 had 15.5 sacks for the season. Cox in philly in a 4-3 defense in 2018 had 10.5 sacks. Your using the same logic that was employed when teams fist started running 3-4 defenses but just like the play in all the other positions has gotten better and expectations are higher over the years so has those for the NT.
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Lol...you can't be serious, your talking 2 of the best DT in the game, nobody is putting Snacks in that category nor will he command that type of money. Also, The lions wasn't a 4-3 team or 3-4 exclusively and Snacks rarely saw the field on passing down in 2018. He's a tremendous run stopper, was the best at it for 4 consecutive years, he's not EXPECTED to get sacks.


Harrison has led the league in each of the last four seasons with tackles by an interior lineman–incredible.

https://detroitjockcity.com/2019/08/22/detroit-lions-extend-damon-harrison/

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

Lol...you can't be serious, your talking 2 of the best DT in the game, nobody is putting Snacks in that category nor will he command that type of money. Also, The lions wasn't a 4-3 team or 3-4 exclusively and Snacks rarely saw the field on passing down in 2018. He's a tremendous run stopper, was the best at it for 4 consecutive years, he's not EXPECTED to get sacks.

Don’t waste your breath. Some people don’t understand the basics of football. Yet enjoy hearing themselves speak.

 

[Dre11]

Don’t waste your breath. Some people don’t understand the basics of football. Yet enjoy hearing themselves speak.

I know, but it's in me to teach...lol

 

[john van brocklin]

Just sign the man already!

Yes, please!

 

[fivetwos]

Very tough to measure a player based on sacks alone.

How about if they completely blew up a play and the QB threw it away? Doesnt count?

What if they are routinely double teamed, allowing their teammates to get home?

The sack stat is nice, but should be looked at as more of a team thing. They arent home runs. If you lined up 4 perennial 15yr sack guys from other teams they would never each hit those numbers.

 

[Mr_437]

Just sign the man already!

Snacks n Griffen should signed already. Assuming Jerry nem wants to win.

 

[speedkilz88]

First off I never mention a thing about the DT and the running game. That has always been their job on running plays to clog the middle. But a funny thing, not ha ha funny, that the good DL in the league also get sacks. Jones in KC in 2018 had 15.5 sacks and Cox in philly in 2018 had 10.5 sacks. Nobody here, including me, is saying the DT has to get double digit sacks every year but more than 1 or 2 isn't asking that much. Not only do the good DT collapse the middle and get sacks, they often do it so quickly that because of the edge rushers also starting to bare down on the QB he has no place to go so the DT gets his sacks.
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Those two are 3T's, getting sacks is their primary job. The NT's primary job is to take two blockers and stop the run. Sacks are gravy.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Those two are 3T's, getting sacks is their primary job. The NT's primary job is to take two blockers and stop the run. Sacks are gravy.

And keep the LB's free to roam, Ray Lewis says hi.

 

[pgreptom]

Can you imagine Snacks and Woods rotating at the 1 tech?

 

[gjkoeppen]

There were 620 free agents this year. Being 96 overall says a great deal, son

Oh my gee yes lets not forget about all of the undrafted players or low draft choice players or practice squad players or the old out played their usefulness players or the players that end up not getting signed and then either retire or wait for another XFL. The list I referred to is the 101TOP free agents not the list of ALL free agents and being on the tail end of that means you're just 5 players away from being in those other 519 free agents which isn't saying all that much.
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[ultron]

I think he’ll be signed tomorrow morning

 

[gjkoeppen]

Lol...you can't be serious, your talking 2 of the best DT in the game, nobody is putting Snacks in that category nor will he command that type of money. Also, The lions wasn't a 4-3 team or 3-4 exclusively and Snacks rarely saw the field on passing down in 2018. He's a tremendous run stopper, was the best at it for 4 consecutive years, he's not EXPECTED to get sacks.


Harrison has led the league in each of the last four seasons with tackles by an interior lineman–incredible.

https://detroitjockcity.com/2019/08/22/detroit-lions-extend-damon-harrison/

So all of the interior DL that played in a 4-3 defense that did get sacks we should just ignore them because they don't fit your idea that interior DL are there to just stop the run? Nobody, including me has said they have to put up double digit sacks, but there's nothing wrong with thinking that 4 - 6 is out of the question. Heaven forbid the Cowboys try to get interior DL that can also get sacks along with stopping the run. If the Cowboys got one what kind of panic would that start for you?
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[JBell]

Source: DoctorChicken “open” to the idea of having an intimate relationship with Margot Robbie.

Lmao @ your avi. Gotten loose around here I see

 

[gjkoeppen]

Those two are 3T's, getting sacks is their primary job. The NT's primary job is to take two blockers and stop the run. Sacks are gravy.

Yes and NOSE TACKLE refers to the single tackle position in the 3 -4 defenses and the Cowboys run a 4-3 defense The 4-3 has TWO tackles. Now we hear for 4-3 defenses that tackles can be a 1 technique or a 2 technique tackle but the Cowboys have used their tackles at both positions.
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[speedkilz88]

Yes and NOSE TACKLE refers to the single tackle position in the 3 -4 defenses and the Cowboys run a 4-3 defense The 4-3 has TWO tackles. Now we hear for 4-3 defenses that tackles can be a 1 technique or a 2 technique tackle but the Cowboys have used their tackles at both positions.
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1T is a NT