Fisher: Cowboys unrealistic dream scenario

[Flamma]

Fans seem to obsess over contracts when some of the big money these players want will never be seen. For example, Tyron Smith was given an 8-year, $97.6 million contract average big money ($12.2 million per year). His cap hit for the first year was $4.976 million, second year was just over $5 million, third was $6.8 million ... would anyone be mad at Thomas receiving that kind of money his first three years? Now, Smith did make $8.8 million the next year and is scheduled to make $17.5 this year (with a base that could be restructured if Dallas wanted).

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/tyron-smith-7724/

I'm getting a totally different cap hit than you. I think you're looking at pre contract wages. I'm pretty sure his contract started at 6.8M, then to 8.8M, and now he's at 17.5M in his 3rd year of the contract. Unless I'm reading it wrong.

 

[theebs]

mayock has payne going at 17 and the fan is talking about him going higher than vea.

 

[gimmesix]

ET's contract demands will be all about the guaranteed money. High Dollar non-guaranteed salaries at the end of a 4 year contract will be meaningless to him. He knows it's his last big money contract.

Most of the guaranteed money will be paid in three or four years. Smith, for instance, got $22 million guaranteed on a $97.5 million contract. Eric Berry, probably a better comparison, got nearly $30 million guaranteed over six years, so we're talking about $5 million a year in real money. The nonguaranteed salary is what ups his average to $13 million per year.

 

[gimmesix]

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/tyron-smith-7724/

I'm getting a totally different cap hit than you. I think you're looking at pre contract wages. I'm pretty sure his contract started at 6.8M, then to 8.8M, and now he's at 17.5M in his 3rd year of the contract. Unless I'm reading it wrong.

That's his current contract (not pre contract) that he signed in 2014, which includes a restructure extending it through 2023. Most likely any contract that Thomas signed also would be restructured after the first or second year because that's how Dallas does business now.

 

[Mannix]

Take Josey Jewell in the 3rd and be set for 10 years....will lead the team in tackles every year.

 

[Carson]

Take Josey Jewell in the 3rd and be set for 10 years....will lead the team in tackles every year.

Jewell and Micah Kiser are going to be solid 10 year, 100+ tackles guys

 

[Flamma]

That's his current contract (not pre contract) that he signed in 2014, which includes a restructure extending it through 2023. Most likely any contract that Thomas signed also would be restructured after the first or second year because that's how Dallas does business now.

Ok cool. I wasn't considering a restructure.

 

[garyv]

Makes no sense thy already knew what he wanted and if they know that and don' like it than why even bother...makes no sense.

 

[crashintonickdm]

Fisher is erratic

 

[cowboyfan4life2]

I want Ridley.

 

[JBell]

Must not have wanted James that much

 

[cowboyec]

I want Ridley.

Evans if its a LB.

 

[zekecowboy]

Must not have wanted James that much

Must have been a smokescreen. I thought they would have moved up and got him. War room
showed no interest.

 

[Risen Star]

Fisher once again nails it.

 

[Doomsday]

I feel like my dream scenario for the Cowboys played out and it turned into a nightmare because they stood on their hands instead of going and getting Edmunds or James.

I just don't get it, you got 10 picks, it doesn't cost that much to go up 2 or 3 spots.

It would be nice to hear they at least tried and couldnt get a deal done.

 

[Jumbo075]

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/tyron-smith-7724/

I'm getting a totally different cap hit than you. I think you're looking at pre contract wages. I'm pretty sure his contract started at 6.8M, then to 8.8M, and now he's at 17.5M in his 3rd year of the contract. Unless I'm reading it wrong.

Here is what Tyron Smith takes home in each of his contract years of the extension he signed in 2014

2014 - $11,079,013 = $1,079,013 salary + $10M signing bonus
2015 - $11,039,000 = $1,039,000 salary + $10M restructure bonus
2016 - $10,000,000 = $1,000,000 salary + $9M restructure bonus
2017 - $10,000,000 = $1,275,000 salary + $8,725,000 restructure bonus
2018 - $10,000,000 = $10M salary
2019 - $10,000,000 = $10M salary
2020 - $10,000,000 = $10M salary
2021 - $10,500,000 = $10.5M salary
2022 - $13,500,000 = $13.5M salary
2023 - $13,600,000 = $13.6M salary

The problem with your math is your confusing salary cap charge with the actual money the player sees. Tyron Smith didn't make $6.8M in 2016; he made $10M. When he filled out his tax return that year, he claimed $10M in salary from the Dallas Cowboys. His CAP charge was $6.8M, but Tyron took home $10M (minus taxes).

 

[Angus12]

I wonder what dream world they're in where Derwin falling to 14 is even a possibility

WHOOPS

 

[The Natural]

WHOOPS

Our pick was one big "WHOOPS"

 

[Flamma]

The problem with your math is your confusing salary cap charge with the actual money the player sees. Tyron Smith didn't make $6.8M in 2016; he made $10M. When he filled out his tax return that year, he claimed $10M in salary from the Dallas Cowboys. His CAP charge was $6.8M, but Tyron took home $10M (minus taxes).

I see it, I was just focusing on the cap hit.

 

[Bullflop]

Just not a WR in the first. Unless we drop back a few spots and get a additional first.

Not to worry -- there's enough good WRs in this draft to still get one of high quality. The supply of quality LBs aren't as plentiful.