Fisher tweet on Cowboys interest in Tom Savage

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Fisher pretty well connected usually. Keep hearing Belicheat really likes him too.
 

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They mentioned that on the draft show a couple of months ago. Said he was the most intellectual interview they has during the entire combine, at that time he was still a 6th or 7th round pick though.
 

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Fisher pretty well connected usually. Keep hearing Belicheat really likes him too.


Know who was a pretty smart QB as well - Jason Garrett! Didn't mean he was anything more than a career backup though.

Highly doubt Savage is the answer - except if Jerry is still around, maybe as a HC of the Dallas Cowboys in 20 or so years, lol.
 

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Know who was a pretty smart QB as well - Jason Garrett! Didn't mean he was anything more than a career backup though.

Highly doubt Savage is the answer - except if Jerry is still around, maybe as a HC of the Dallas Cowboys in 20 or so years, lol.

He has to work on accuracy but that may be fixed with better mechanics. He has a big arm so he is not a Garrett type backup with a popgun arm. I wouldn't be mad if they used a third on him. He may be gone by then.
 

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He has to work on accuracy but that may be fixed with better mechanics. He has a big arm so he is not a Garrett type backup with a popgun arm. I wouldn't be mad if they used a third on him. He may be gone by then.

This is the developmental guy I'd like to see us get, too. Third round, hopefully, if he's still there. Fits the bill physically and is smart and needs time to develop. That's just what we need right now. And a third will be nothing in a couple of years if you can develop him.
 
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Though his rise makes me wary, physically he is very talented. Combine with the smarts, and I like him a lot
 

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This is the developmental guy I'd like to see us get, too. Third round, hopefully, if he's still there. Fits the bill physically and is smart and needs time to develop. That's just what we need right now. And a third will be nothing in a couple of years if you can develop him.

Half-measures at QB rarely work out ( though there are exceptions ). Either go whole hog and go for a 1st rounder or save those 2nd/3rd round picks for what we truly need - linemen.

Wasting a third round pick on a QB with very little chance to turn into a franchise QB is silly IMO. Fourth round should be the earliest to draft a sheer backup QB type.
 
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Got to add though - at least he has a very cool last name ( Savage ).

Wonder if people would be a so high on him if his name wasn't so cool - like Tom Whimper?
 

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Half-measures at QB rarely work out ( though there are exceptions ). Either go whole hog and go for a 1st rounder or save those 2nd/3rd round picks for what we truly need - linemen.

Wasting a third round pick on a QB with very little chance to turn into a franchise QB is silly IMO. Fourth round should be the earliest to draft a sheer backup QB type.

I agree. I wont sit here and pretend to know about every prospect that gets brought up, but after reading the scouting reports, a few tweets, and a short video I do really like the guy. That said I would rather go 1st round qb in 2015 or 2016 than use a 2nd/3rd on a developmental player. If he's still there in the 4th/5th id take a shot, but probably not before, unless we grab another pick with a trade down.
 

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Half-measures at QB rarely work out ( though there are exceptions ). Either go whole hog and go for a 1st rounder or save those 2nd/3rd round picks for what we truly need - linemen.

Wasting a third round pick on a QB with very little chance to turn into a franchise QB is silly IMO. Fourth round should be the earliest to draft a sheer backup QB type.

I saw that quote from the Bears, too. I'm not sold on it. If you have a second round grade on the guy and he's there in the third, take him and see if you're right. You should be working off your college scouting and not what transpired in the draft.

Part of the reason half measures work out less often is that they have a shorter leash. Another part is that the players are often less physically gifted. In Savage's case, it's not a physical question, and we actually need somebody who needs time to develop behind Tony. If you're luck enough to get that in the third....someone you think you can develop into a possible starter...why wouldn't you take it?
 

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I saw that quote from the Bears, too. I'm not sold on it. If you have a second round grade on the guy and he's there in the third, take him and see if you're right. You should be working off your college scouting and not what transpired in the draft.

Part of the reason half measures work out less often is that they have a shorter leash. Another part is that the players are often less physically gifted. In Savage's case, it's not a physical question, and we actually need somebody who needs time to develop behind Tony. If you're luck enough to get that in the third....someone you think you can develop into a possible starter...why wouldn't you take it?

You think Savage has a true second round grade? I'd imagine, at best, he is a holy shiznit, we need a QB badly but didn't get one in the first so we need to reach and get one in the second even if he is really a fourth or fifth round prospect type player.

There are plenty of other teams in a more dire need of a QB than us, so maybe someone will reach for Savage in the second or third round. But it shouldn't be us IMO.

Seen plenty of real draft gurus thinking QBs which might go in the first are really second round prospects ( Bridgewater, sometimes even Manziel ). If people are predicting second or third round for Savage, it's almost guaranteed he is really quite lower than that in potential.

Not guaranteeing Savage will fail, but I'd be shocked if he ever became more than a quality backup.
 

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I saw that quote from the Bears, too. I'm not sold on it. If you have a second round grade on the guy and he's there in the third, take him and see if you're right. You should be working off your college scouting and not what transpired in the draft.

Part of the reason half measures work out less often is that they have a shorter leash. Another part is that the players are often less physically gifted. In Savage's case, it's not a physical question, and we actually need somebody who needs time to develop behind Tony. If you're luck enough to get that in the third....someone you think you can develop into a possible starter...why wouldn't you take it?

The dude has an arm. He has velocity and from what I saw good ball location. Makes all the throws. If there's a run on qbs he should go early as well. I don't see how he isn't a starter in the future if he is also board smart.
 

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The one thing I would say ... he had a funky college career. That's the only type of quarterback that I would try to "develop" or "groom." I'd raterh Tom Savage than Murray, McCarron or Mettenberger, all of whom played in big program but couldn't leverage that into a first-round draft status. But I agree with the poster above ... half-measures at qb rarely work. We can do better with a second.
 

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Savage has become overrated.

Smart perhaps, strong arm perhaps but college production and age are warts.
He is already 24.
Not a fan of his 3 schools career either.
Strong arm but not very quick on release... unless it was a one route option.
Prototype size but not very athletic, will take hits.
Has poor pocket mobility. Sets up very heavy to throw.
Will stand and deliver but also stares down WRs.
Throws way too many picks.

Those hits he took have already resulted in a broken rib and a concussion just last year so he has minor injury flag.

Kind of a throw back QB. Can see why some scouts would like him but not sure he fits current era of football.

Shouldn't be drafted before round 3 and probably a round 4/5 guy in reality as long term NFL back up seems best fit.
 
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