Five Jason Garrett myths

[T-RO]

I completely disagree with #3. An effective running game should be the staple of every good offense.

Wrong and...

Yea you have to do both...

Wrong again.

You people have been brainwashed. The scientific method says you learn facts by quantitative analysis and repeatable observation.

Who has won the most? The teams that have passed the most!
Steelers (yes, look it up, the Steelers!), the Cardinals, the Patriots, the Colts and lately the Saints. Notice the impact of Favre in Minnesota!

Houston is suddenly a (barely) winning team but with a top 5 offense. Why? They are letting Shaub throw it downfield, and they throw 60% of the plays.

The Saints get 68% of their yards from the air. The Steelers have thrown the ball 263 times against 214 rushes. The Colts can't run the ball at all and usually give up trying. All they are is undefeated.

 

[Chief]

It's almost comical to me the standards that are expected of Garrett on this board and among many Cowboy fans.

If the offense doesn't put up 40 a game, and if each running back doesn't get at least 10 carries, and each receiver doesn't get at least five catches, then the complaints erupt.

 

[T-RO]

2008 Super Bowl: Combined team stats

608 of the 699 total yards - THROUGH THE AIR
73 Passing plays of 110 plays -- PASSES

Arizona was DEAD LAST (32nd) for the season in Running the ball
Steelers were 23rd in rushing yardage

 

[T-RO]

This is a very well thought out post and it deserves it's props.

thanks man!

I'm not convinced the inmates are not running the asylum.

You sound like a Landry guy. Anyone other then the head coach making the calls and it's craziness?

Crayton made some comments...

Outside of Miles Austin I honestly think 75% of things our diva receivers have ever uttered is pure nonsense.

We need to throw more screens and short little dump off passes to Felix and Choice, even to Barber despite his lack of speed.

I'm a big fan of the screen pass. Again props not only to our talent but to our coaching. Remember for 10 (or was it 20?) years we could not run a screen pass to save our life.

We have more weapons on offense than a Columbian drug lord. Pablo Escobar trembles in his grave when we take the field.

LOL! Too funny!

We should be dominating just about everybody we've played

Sorry but I think this is flat silly comment. It's a typical homer's exaggerated self-evaluation. The Eagles were FAVORED to win that game for lots of good reasons.

It's so typical for fans to see some good plays and then expect the same all the time. We'll two teams are out playing and they all have top tier coaches and talent. Even the 90's Cowboys had about 40% of their plays that ranged from disappointing to disastrous...because they weren't competing against air!

 

[T-RO]

It's almost comical to me the standards that are expected of Garrett on this board and among many Cowboy fans.

If the offense doesn't put up 40 a game, and if each running back doesn't get at least 10 carries, and each receiver doesn't get at least five catches, then the complaints erupt.

I agree 100%.

 

[CF74]

It's almost comical to me the standards that are expected of Garrett on this board and among many Cowboy fans.

If the offense doesn't put up 40 a game, and if each running back doesn't get at least 10 carries, and each receiver doesn't get at least five catches, then the complaints erupt.

We don't necessarily have to put up 40 pts every game but if some of the play calling was tweaked we'd be putting up the much needed points against the better teams. The whole point of a forum is to dissect the team we are obsessed with.

You sound like a Landry guy. Anyone other then the head coach making the calls and it's craziness?

No that came across wrong due to my choice of words. All I'm trying to say is that sometimes Romo kills us and I expect Garrett to get on him when he's off key. All I've seen from Garrett so far is a look of annoyance.

Outside of Miles Austin I honestly think 75% of things our diva receivers have ever uttered is pure nonsense.

Crayton has been humbled from diva to produce or else but Me-o is gone and the guys are getting in line and winning, that's all we can ask.

I'm a big fan of the screen pass. Again props not only to our talent but to our coaching. Remember for 10 (or was it 20?) years we could not run a screen pass to save our life.

Not even that far back but yeah it was like we gave our tell and the opposition was on it.

Sorry but I think this is flat silly comment. It's a typical homer's exaggerated self-evaluation. The Eagles were FAVORED to win that game for lots of good reasons.

Self admitted homer here no doubt about it.:starspin

And I could care less if the egirls were favored I know my team is better. I will say that if Westbrook had been in there it may have been a different game because Fat guy what's his face knows how to use the guy. I wish we used Felix or Choice in the same manner...

 

[Everlastingxxx]

Tons of holes in the OPs thoughts. Not surprised the agenda driven posters thought this was perfect. LOL.

 

[ZeroClub]

Nobody is perfect.

So, how is Jason Garrett imperfect?

IMO, Garrett's main weakness is a tendency to get too focused on the immediate moment ... the next play ... at the expense of considering the play's importance in the context of the overall game. His attention can become so fixed on maximizing the offense's output on the next play, that he can lose sight of 1) what the team needs most from the particular series (e.g,. sometimes it is to slow down the game) and 2) avoiding what the team can least afford to happen during a particular series (e.g., our defense looks tired, we absolutely can't have a quick three and out).

Garrett admits that he can get wrapped up in the moment, when, for example, he mentions how he "needs to remember" to rotate his RBs.

Garrett also can get too cute with his playcalling. A central part of Garrett's philosophy is that his offense should remain unpredictable. Slavish devotion to unpredictability is problemmatic: In certain situations, the expected play (e.g., Barber off tackle) makes more sense than the unexpected call (e.g., consecutive fades).

Having said all of that, it is obvious that Garrett is doing a very good job right now (you can't ignore the statistics) and he appears to be learning and developing. It seems to me that Garrett is now paying more attention to game management issues (instead of being so fixated on the next play's output).

Everyone who knows Garrett says that he is very bright and has a great grasp of the game. So maybe we shouldn't be surprised that he's developing and improving his game.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

LOL. Another myth I CONTINUALLY hear around here.

Don't you realize that bad weather FAVORS the PASSING game (unless it's real windy or you are Troy Aikman). Receivers know where they are going. DBs don't and they slip more easily.

Lots of historic passing games have occurred in bad weather. Brady and his backups have had some CRAZY PROLIFIC days in the snow in New England.

Next someone will bring up the Steelers----another HUGE MYTH. If you watch the games you'd know. They pass almost 70-30 the past few seasons and are TERRIBLE at running the ball.

Dude, do you even watch football? The fact that they fall down and the footing is bad makes it hard for everyone. The passing game is about precision and there is no precision when you cannot trust your footing.

Then you factor in the weather conditions. Ever heard of a cold front or how having a longer day than night effects air currents? What you should have done is look up NO's road schedule the rest of the way and the fartheset north outdoors they are going is to Carolina.

Its funny that you bring up the Steelers though after htat game last year and its passing spectacle that was put on.

I have no issue with Garrett. He is getting better as time goes by and you cannot ask for more.

 

[dbair1967]

It's almost comical to me the standards that are expected of Garrett on this board and among many Cowboy fans.

If the offense doesn't put up 40 a game, and if each running back doesn't get at least 10 carries, and each receiver doesn't get at least five catches, then the complaints erupt.

Unfortunately we have way too many people in this forum who dont get this:

:madden:

 

[CF74]

Nobody is perfect.

So, how is Jason Garrett imperfect?

IMO, Garrett's main weakness is a tendency to get too focused on the immediate moment ... the next play ... at the expense of considering the play's importance in the context of the overall game. His attention can become so fixed on maximizing the offense's output on the next play, that he can lose sight of 1) what the team needs most from the particular series (e.g,. sometimes it is to slow down the game) and 2) avoiding what the team can least afford to happen during a particular series (e.g., our defense looks tired, we absolutely can't have a quick three and out).

Garrett admits that he can get wrapped up in the moment, when, for example, he mentions how he "needs to remember" to rotate his RBs.

Garrett also can get too cute with his playcalling. A central part of Garrett's philosophy is that his offense should remain unpredictable. Slavish devotion to unpredictability is problemmatic: In certain situations, the expected play (e.g., Barber off tackle) makes more sense than the unexpected call (e.g., consecutive fades).

Having said all of that, it is obvious that Garrett is doing a very good job right now (you can't ignore the statistics) and he appears to be learning and developing. It seems to me that Garrett is now paying more attention to game management issues (instead of being so fixated on the next play's output).

Everyone who knows Garrett says that he is very bright and has a great grasp of the game. So maybe we shouldn't be surprised that he's developing and improving his game.

Spot on. Many many times we are left with 3rd and long situations which result in punts when we should be dragging it out sustaining drives to rest our D. I've noticed the D's ranking has gone up since Romo stopped turning the ball over. There are still to many home run plays being called when all we really need is 3-4 yards to keep the momentum going on offense...

 

[Cowboy Bebop]

Tons of holes in the OPs thoughts. Not surprised the agenda driven posters thought this was perfect. LOL.

Aren't we all agenda driven posters? Otherwise no one would post and there would be only white noise.

I guess it just depends on whether your view is popular in the thread or not. If it isn't popular those who disagree are sheep marching to the beat of a drum. If it is popular anyone who disagrees is just stupid, I mean how can they be right if so many disagree with them?

It is the same argument in every thread. The template stays the same, only the context changes.

 

[NextGenBoys]

Post of the day.

Aces man, aces.

Not even close.

That post is so full of holes, and I'm one of Garrett's biggest supporters.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Not surprised the agenda driven posters thought this was perfect. LOL.

Not surprised the agenda driven posters thought this was BS.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Nobody is perfect.

So, how is Jason Garrett imperfect?

IMO, Garrett's main weakness is a tendency to get too focused on the immediate moment ... the next play ... at the expense of considering the play's importance in the context of the overall game. His attention can become so fixed on maximizing the offense's output on the next play, that he can lose sight of 1) what the team needs most from the particular series (e.g,. sometimes it is to slow down the game) and 2) avoiding what the team can least afford to happen during a particular series (e.g., our defense looks tired, we absolutely can't have a quick three and out).

Garrett admits that he can get wrapped up in the moment, when, for example, he mentions how he "needs to remember" to rotate his RBs.

Garrett also can get too cute with his playcalling. A central part of Garrett's philosophy is that his offense should remain unpredictable. Slavish devotion to unpredictability is problemmatic: In certain situations, the expected play (e.g., Barber off tackle) makes more sense than the unexpected call (e.g., consecutive fades).

Having said all of that, it is obvious that Garrett is doing a very good job right now (you can't ignore the statistics) and he appears to be learning and developing. It seems to me that Garrett is now paying more attention to game management issues (instead of being so fixated on the next play's output).

Everyone who knows Garrett says that he is very bright and has a great grasp of the game. So maybe we shouldn't be surprised that he's developing and improving his game.

Well said, ZC.

I'm a lot happier with Garrett lately because he's fixed the main problems with the offense, which IMO were getting too "tricky", not converting in the red zone, and -- number one by far -- turning the ball over.

Oh, and I have to say it's kind of funny that someone chastises the great unwashed for not knowing football when just a few days ago they said Spencer should be an inside backer.

 

[JBell]

Being an offensive coordinator has gotta be tough.

They only get 40 seconds to call a play while thinking of the situation (down and distance), the defense's tendecies, what formation he should call, and what personnel he should have in the game.

JG has done pretty awesome so far, I don't see how anyone can complain.

 

[newlander]

.......so will he be our HC next season? depends on their finish I guess....11 wins or more plus a playoff win and he'll get the job I would think...

 

[Temo]

Post of the day indeed. Thank you.

 

[Hoofbite]

Not even close.

That post is so full of holes, and I'm one of Garrett's biggest supporters.

Yeah, it missed the boat on the "running myth" and the whole myth about audibles is not really a myth.

 

[chinch]

just a coach homers look even more foolish when they post drivel like this before the team reverts to "terribly coached" mode on the road.