Fixing the secondary will prove difficult this year

[texbumthelife]

There should be plenty of cbs out there. That's the average cb pay.

So do you want to actually improve, or just throw another guy at the problem?

 

[StarBoyz83]

So do you want to actually improve, or just throw another guy at the problem?

It's not improving by resigning mo. Best draft his replacement.

 

[texbumthelife]

It's not improving by resigning mo. Best draft his replacement.

Mo was a solid #2 corner last year. You can still draft a kid to address the future and improvement, while keeping Mo. You're certainly not going to get better play from someone in the 2.5M/yr bracket.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Mo was a solid #2 corner last year. You can still draft a kid to address the future and improvement, while keeping Mo. You're certainly not going to get better play from someone in the 2.5M/yr bracket.

When he plays maybe. He's a 3rd corner at best. He's average with a lot of Injuries and should be paid as such.

 

[texbumthelife]

When he plays maybe. He's a 3rd corner at best. He's average with a lot of Injuries and should be paid as such.

He was above average last year and his ability outside allows us to slide either Scandrick (who may not ever be a #1 CB again) or a rookie inside to the slot. I just don't buy the "addition by subtraction" logic in the case of Mo. Not with that position being so thin.

 

[StarBoyz83]

He was above average last year and his ability outside allows us to slide either Scandrick (who may not ever be a #1 CB again) or a rookie inside to the slot. I just don't buy the "addition by subtraction" logic in the case of Mo. Not with that position being so thin.

Just don't overpay to keep him is my main problem.

 

[texbumthelife]

Just don't overpay to keep him is my main problem.

Oh I agree, I just don't think paying him more than 2.5M is overpaying him. That's where we are divergent. He's young and showed some ability last year. I think he's going to get 4M/yr.

 

[Sandyf]

Regardless if we resign Claiborne and/or keep Carr we most likely sign one or two in free agency and draft one or two also. We aren't going to cut Carr until we either resign Claiborne and sign a free agent then it still is a maybe we cut him. Have to ask ourselves on Carr, how many games has he missed, the answer zero, is he great, nope, is he steady, yep, his only fault last year was zero ints.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

The easy way to fix the secondary to bring in a whole new coaching team. You can't continue throwing valuable resouces back there, and say that the players suck. High fistt rounders, high priced free agent , low first rounders, they all suck? Like I said in an earlier thread, these coaches can't develop defensive back to save their lives. You could bring in the Woodson's in their prime and they would suck within a year here in Dallas. That's the main reason drafting Ramsey is a terrible idea.

 

[jnday]

They will draft Ramsey, resign Mo and add a couple no-name practice squad quality players and declare the secondary fixed. No problem.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

They will draft Ramsey, resign Mo and add a couple no-name practice squad quality players and declare the secondary fixed. No problem.

and do it again next year, along with more 2nd round DEs. Meanwhile TWill and Devin Street are making the team because you can't upgrade the WR position.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Draft Ramsey
Sign JJenkins
Re sign MO

It's not that difficult to accomplish.... Take a flyer on Killibrew if available in 3rd

You don't need to spend that much money on Jenkins at that point.

Scandrick, Ramsey, Jones, Claiborne, Heath, Church, Wilcox, midgrade draft/FA.

That is one heck of a secondary.

 

[perrykemp]

Hayward was ranked so highly because he was never a #1. PFF doesn't take into account who they're actually covering. Don't get me wrong, he's an above average corner and if we get him for a good price I'm all for it.

Hayward was a top notch nickel corner at the beginning of his career but then he was affected a LOT by hamstring injuries.

He hasn't bounced back (and probably never will) to be a top notch slot CB again, however, he's still pretty good.

The reason why I don't think he is a good fit for the Cowboys is that the Cowboys already have Scandrick. Hayward would not be a good outside CB.

 

[JPostSam]

I think if you look back at that game against the Patriots, we were able to hang in there in the first half due to the pass rush. Once they took care of the rush, the game got out of hand.

in other words, we need to improve both.

 

[EPL0c0]

If you fix the passrush the secondary will fall in line. Wish people would understand this

If you improve the secondary, the passrush will fall in line.

Personaly, I'd go w/ Jalen Ramsey at #4 and a FA CB

 

[jnday]

The defense as a whole is easy to fix. Dont understand this thread.

Sure , draft a top, load-carrying RB and give him the ball enough to keep the defense off the field . No problem, the defense is no longer exposed and all is right in the world.

 

[jnday]

He was above average last year and his ability outside allows us to slide either Scandrick (who may not ever be a #1 CB again) or a rookie inside to the slot. I just don't buy the "addition by subtraction" logic in the case of Mo. Not with that position being so thin.

Exactly in what areas has Mondver been above average in? If you take away a slight improvement in a contract year, he has been a horrible 6th round draft pick. Oh wait, he was the 6th pick in his entire draft class. He just plays like a 6th round pick that is struggling to stay off the practice squad.

 

[jnday]

You don't need to spend that much money on Jenkins at that point.

Scandrick, Ramsey, Jones, Claiborne, Heath, Church, Wilcox, midgrade draft/FA.

That is one heck of a secondary.

Mo and both safety positions need upgrades, but you are showing an economic friendly secondary .

 

[gmoney112]

Hayward was a top notch nickel corner at the beginning of his career but then he was affected a LOT by hamstring injuries.

He hasn't bounced back (and probably never will) to be a top notch slot CB again, however, he's still pretty good.

The reason why I don't think he is a good fit for the Cowboys is that the Cowboys already have Scandrick. Hayward would not be a good outside CB.

Yeah, I don't even really like Hayward. I just assumed if they went out of their way to target him then he might be able to play.

The guy I really want is Trumaine, but I think that's a pipedream.

 

[texbumthelife]

Hayward was a top notch nickel corner at the beginning of his career but then he was affected a LOT by hamstring injuries.

He hasn't bounced back (and probably never will) to be a top notch slot CB again, however, he's still pretty good.

The reason why I don't think he is a good fit for the Cowboys is that the Cowboys already have Scandrick. Hayward would not be a good outside CB.

Hayward obviously wouldn't be brought in here as a nickel/slot guy. He would be brought in to play the outside. He would be a substantial upgrade to Carr and would provide even more versatility. I don't know where you get this "and probably never will" nonsense from. The guy is 26 years old.

I don't think Green Bay has any intention of letting him go though. He's just too good. I don't care how many other young corners they have.