Foles returns to Philly

[AzorAhai]

This encapsulates what backup QBs cost.

Everybody thinks there's this big "savings" by cutting Romo. Most of that savings will go to Josh McCown, or whatever veteran backup shows up.

Because 14 million is just a negligible difference. As long as your threads are, maybe try reading some of the actual knowledge that is shared here.

 

[cowboy_ron]

Foles will be starting for the eagles by mid season...once they figure that it wasn't their WR's afterall.

 

[bsbellomy]

Because 14 million is just a negligible difference. As long as your threads are, maybe try reading some of the actual knowledge that is shared here.

Well it's not your money we're talking about anyway. What exactly is the point of carrying extra cap space into the 2017 season? There won't be anyone worth signing to anything other than a bargain contract post June 1st.

 

[bsbellomy]

It's more about future savings and getting him off the books as soon as possible.

I doubt the team will pay much more than 2M for a backup. I know all it takes is one play but we have a big 25 year old quarterback that has the full faith of the franchise playing behind the best ol in the game. Overpaying for a QB doesn't make sense.

Kellen Moore will be back for the league minimal before we overpay for anyone.

Can someone legitimately explain the dead cap money situation for 2018 and 2019? I was under the impression the dead cap money was about $17M if we cut him now and 9M if we cut him next year. How does cutting him now help the dead cap money for next year and beyond?

 

[erod]

Because 14 million is just a negligible difference. As long as your threads are, maybe try reading some of the actual knowledge that is shared here.

It is negligible when you don't get $9 million of it until June. Almost useless.

 

[Blackspider214]

This encapsulates what backup QBs cost.

Everybody thinks there's this big "savings" by cutting Romo. Most of that savings will go to Josh McCown, or whatever veteran backup shows up.

It's not about this year. It's about the future and getting rid of his god awful contract.

 

[AzorAhai]

Well it's not your money we're talking about anyway. What exactly is the point of carrying extra cap space into the 2017 season? There won't be anyone worth signing to anything other than a bargain contract post June 1st.

I don't give a **** about June 1st or not. No backup QB is worth losing 14 million in cap space for 1 year. Period.

And since it's not your money either, why are you worried about what is or isn't done with it? It's not your team either, so why do you care about what they decide to do with it? Oh, that's right. It's called being a fan and wanting what's best for the team. How silly.

 

[AzorAhai]

It is negligible when you don't get $9 million of it until June. Almost useless.

You act like because they can't use the money right now, it disappears. The number is 14 million and that's what they lose over the next 2 years no matter how you slice it for one year of a backup QB. There's not a backup QB walking this planet that is worth that, despite you not being ready to let go of your love for the player.

 

[Kaiser]

Can someone legitimately explain the dead cap money situation for 2018 and 2019? I was under the impression the dead cap money was about $17M if we cut him now and 9M if we cut him next year. How does cutting him now help the dead cap money for next year and beyond?

Romo is scheduled to make 19.5 Million in 2018 and 20.5 Million in 2019. None of that is guaranteed so if he is cut or traded we take a dead money cap hit of 19.6 Million but remove his cap hit of 24.7 Million for the season.

So it saves 5.1 for 2017 but 40 Million over the next two years. You can also designate Romo as a June 1st cut which gives you about 10 Million more cap space in 2017 but a cap hit of the same amount in 2018. That isn't that big of a deal because the team has a lot of cap room now and can still create a lot more if needed, so its a consideration but not really needed at this point.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

This encapsulates what backup QBs cost.

Everybody thinks there's this big "savings" by cutting Romo. Most of that savings will go to Josh McCown, or whatever veteran backup shows up.

most of the savings this year would go to McCown, not any subsequent savings

 

[DFWJC]

People keep trying to offset the cost of bringing in a backup for the cost of Romo.
The new vet QB will replace Sanchez. The cost will probably be about the same.
We carried 4 last year and will carry 3 this year.
Romo's $s can be replaced by a non-QB. (defense, oline, etc)

I know maybe it's semantics, but we're not carrying 4 this year if we bring in a vet like McCown.

 

[rambo2]

It's not about this year. It's about the future and getting rid of his god awful contract.

What is awful about it?

 

[rambo2]

7 million is guaranteed for Foles. Interesting how much a backup can get. I think that spending 14.7 million for Dak and Tony is a better deal than having Dak and anybody for any amount.

 

[Zekeats]

$5.5M is what the Eagles are paying Foles to be a backup QB. Wouldn't Romo cost us 5.1, since the rest is already guaranteed. I know, it's not gonna happen, but wouldn't it be great to have him around as a mentor and great insurance policy. Damn these players and their competitiveness.

Don't for one second think that money isn't an issue for romo....he's pretty much guaranteed to see most of the $$$ owed to him. If he is released then he would prob get a 1 year deal guaranteed with a chance to cash in on a two year deal if healthy

 

[big dog cowboy]

This puts Carson on notice!!!

 

[Texas_Pete]

In related news...

 

[Risen Star]

It will be pretty insulting if Philadelphia is able to get some return on Chase Daniel while we continue to be stagnated and unable to get anything for Tony Romo.

You can relax....

 

[Stash]

You can relax....

Whew!

 

[bsbellomy]

Romo is scheduled to make 19.5 Million in 2018 and 20.5 Million in 2019. None of that is guaranteed so if he is cut or traded we take a dead money cap hit of 19.6 Million but remove his cap hit of 24.7 Million for the season.

So it saves 5.1 for 2017 but 40 Million over the next two years. You can also designate Romo as a June 1st cut which gives you about 10 Million more cap space in 2017 but a cap hit of the same amount in 2018. That isn't that big of a deal because the team has a lot of cap room now and can still create a lot more if needed, so its a consideration but not really needed at this point.

I thought I saw the dead money cap hit dropped to about 9M after this season. Am I incorrect on.this? What's the cap hit for 2018 and 2019 if we keep him this season?

 

[bsbellomy]

I don't give a **** about June 1st or not. No backup QB is worth losing 14 million in cap space for 1 year. Period.

And since it's not your money either, why are you worried about what is or isn't done with it? It's not your team either, so why do you care about what they decide to do with it? Oh, that's right. It's called being a fan and wanting what's best for the team. How silly.

No what's stupid is protesting the use of $$ that are clear aren't going to be spent elsewhere because you can't agree with the principle of it.