Folk May Be Released or Put on IR...Kicker Search Underway

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Erik_H;3163056 said:
My thoughts exactly. If he's released, he doesn't last a week before some team out of the playoffs with a kicking problem picks him up. 1) He was too good his first two years. 2) He's still young 3) He had off season surgery that threw him off.

I hope IR is a possibility because despite the fact that I want to see him on the team for next years training camp, we can't afford to have him kicking any more this year.

Agree, but what are the rules of placing a player on IR???


I mean, if he is healthy enough to suit up can the team just put him on IR? What would keep a team from just stashing players on IR towards the end of the season?
 

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Why are we considering signing Suisham? The guy was cut in Washington for the same reason we cut Folk.

That makes zero sense.
 

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Beast_from_East;3163076 said:
Agree, but what are the rules of placing a player on IR???


I mean, if he is healthy enough to suit up can the team just put him on IR? What would keep a team from just stashing players on IR towards the end of the season?

Someone needs to push Folk down the stairs. (gently of course :) )
 

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Folk should be put on IR. All it takes is a call to Tonya Harding and an iron bar. Then he comes back strong next year.
 

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HoleInTheRoof;3163091 said:
Why are we considering signing Suisham? The guy was cut in Washington for the same reason we cut Folk.

That makes zero sense.

replace a chump with a bigger chump?
 

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HoleInTheRoof;3163091 said:
Why are we considering signing Suisham? The guy was cut in Washington for the same reason we cut Folk.

That makes zero sense.

I think he made 18 of 21 in Washington while Folk has missed many more.

It does make sense.
 

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davey999;3163161 said:
I think he made 18 of 21 in Washington while Folk has missed many more.

It does make sense.
That is the general point.

There is not a kicker out there right now who is a great option. That is understood. But when Folk is to the point he can barely make just one field goal and his mechanics are so ruined he misses chip shots that can ice a win, you simply cannot continue with him.

I would much rather take a chance with someone like Suisham who was not slumping nearly as bad. He is the best option. I think the other names like Rayner are just there for due dilligence purposes.
 

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30yrheel;3163153 said:
replace a chump with a bigger chump?
Actually it is replacing the biggest chump (Folk) with a lesser chump (Suisham).
 

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Erik_H;3163056 said:
My thoughts exactly. If he's released, he doesn't last a week before some team out of the playoffs with a kicking problem picks him up. 1) He was too good his first two years. 2) He's still young 3) He had off season surgery that threw him off.

I hope IR is a possibility because despite the fact that I want to see him on the team for next years training camp, we can't afford to have him kicking any more this year.
I would not worry about injured reserve, which I do not believe is a realistic option since he has not appeared on any injury reports. I do not believe the yips is a valid reason to place someone on injured reserve.

Just cut him outright. I doubt any team is going to bother picking up Folk at this stage in the season. If he wants to come back and compete next year, that would be his choice to sign with Dallas again after the season. If he goes go elsewhere, it is for the best then. I would not carry three kickers on the roster simply because we are clinging to memories of Buffalo.

Sometimes kickers just lose it. Vanderjagt was just as perfect as Folk was and he got to the stage he could not even hold a job in Canada.
 

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brett2223;3163168 said:
GET RID OF THIS BUM THIS SHOULDN'T EVEN BE A QUESTION!!!! HE IS KILLING US!!!:bang2:

Alexander;3163173 said:
That is the general point.

There is not a kicker out there right now who is a great option. That is understood. But when Folk is to the point he can barely make just one field goal and his mechanics are so ruined he misses chip shots that can ice a win, you simply cannot continue with him.

I would much rather take a chance with someone like Suisham who was not slumping nearly as bad. He is the best option. I think the other names like Rayner are just there for due dilligence purposes.

from emotional outbursts to simple logic. : )

like many have said, quality kickers just are not out there right now. everyone loves to fire people without any form of replacement in mind because they figure ANYONE would better and that's simply not always the case.

i think a grammatica is out there somewhere who can finish the year.
 

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=====Update====
Although Cowboys owner/general manager Jerry Jones and head coach Wade Phillips didn't commit to replacing Nick Folk immediately after Saturday's win over New Orleans -- Folk missed a 24-yard field goal that would have iced the game in the fourth quarter -- it was clear the team would re-address its kicking situation.

Folk has missed a field goal in six straight games, including seven of his last 11. And the Cowboys are indeed weighing their options at the position this week. Former Commanders kicker Shaun Suisham is believed to be in line for a tryout, and others could be part of a short list compiled in recent days.

Suisham has had two previous stints with the Cowboys, most recently early in the 2006 season while Mike Vanderjagt was injured. He appeared in six games from 2005-06, making four of six attempts. Despite making 18 of 21 attempts for the Commanders this year, the five-year veteran was released two weeks ago after he missed a 23-yarder --ironically enough -- late in the fourth quarter of a 33-30 overtime loss to the Saints.

The Cowboys have another kicker on the roster, rookie David Buehler, but he has focused mostly on kickoffs and longer-distance field goals this season and Phillips has said he's not comfortable with Buehler's accuracy yet. Folk and Buehler took equal field goal reps in practice last week and Folk retained the job. He did make a 44-yard attempt before halftime against New Orleans, but the 24-yard miss reinforced the Cowboys' growing concerns. They'd previously tried changing holders, from Mat McBriar to Tony Romo.

The situation is a difficult one for the Cowboys because Folk, a sixth-round pick in 2007, made 46 of 53 attempts in his first two seasons. A May hip surgery set back his off-season routine this year, and now his struggles are coming at the most critical part of the season.

-Rob

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Folk is definitely done for the season/Cowboys... I know we all knew that already, but I am listening to the PC right now and they asked if Folk would be competing with the kickers that they are bringing in today and Wade said "no".

He didn't say what kickers they are bringing in.
 

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Bach;3164884 said:
How's the cologne working for you?
It keeps attracting me to find your posts, so it must be working. I hope you like wearing it.
 

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Hostile;3164909 said:
It keeps attracting me to find your posts, so it must be working. I hope you like wearing it.

Just when I think you can't get any lamer. :laugh2:
 

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Bach;3165035 said:
Just when I think you can't get any lamer. :laugh2:
Says the guy who I wasn't talking to about Obsession cologne but felt slighted anyway to the point he has brought it up in a thread where it wasn't even posted plus the thread where it was.

We should just call you Pa, as in Pa Thetic.
 
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