For The Torry Holt Crowd... **Updated** Holt released (post #72)

[Hostile]

9ers showing no interest in Pace or Holt

Matt Maiocco of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat reports the 49ers are showing no interest "right now" in former Rams tackle Orlando Pace or receiver Torry Holt, who is on the trade block. Holt will likely be released by next week if the Rams can't find a trade partner.

 

[THUMPER]

I wouldn't trade for Holt and I'd rather see what we can find in the draft at WR but I wouldn't be upset at all if we signed him after he is released. I don't think it is the BEST move but it certainly wouldn't be a BAD one.

 

[Ren]

Seems very counter productive to go after Holt when we want to give our young guys a shot

 

[hockix]

I wouldn't trade for Holt and I'd rather see what we can find in the draft at WR but I wouldn't be upset at all if we signed him after he is released. I don't think it is the BEST move but it certainly wouldn't be a BAD one.

Holt is still fast and have good hands.
At the right price, I would like to get him.

 

[Hostile]

I wouldn't trade for Holt and I'd rather see what we can find in the draft at WR but I wouldn't be upset at all if we signed him after he is released. I don't think it is the BEST move but it certainly wouldn't be a BAD one.

I don't want him at all. Via trade or release. I don't dislike the guy, but I don't want any more 30+ WRs who will command a salary based on their past reputation. I would rather get younger at WR.

 

[hockix]

I don't want him at all. Via trade or release. I don't dislike the guy, but I don't want any more 30+ WRs who will command a salary based on their past reputation. I would rather get younger at WR.

If I was sold on RW and MA, I would agree.

 

[Hostile]

If I was sold on RW and MA, I would agree.

We sign a vet we move WR down in the Draft. I don't want to do that. There is good value where we pick in the 2nd round.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

We sign a vet we move WR down in the Draft. I don't want to do that. There is good value where we pick in the 2nd round.

You think we take a WR with our first pick?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

What is going to bother me is when we are playing games and touchdowns are few and far between.


I hope thats not the case. But hope isnt always enough.

 

[cobra]

Seems very counter productive to go after Holt when we want to give our young guys a shot

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

There is more than 1 WR on the field during plays.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I'll be upset if we take a WR with our 2nd rounder, unless we wind up with 2 of them, when we have far more pressing needs then getting younger at WR.

The rest of our WR's are all under 30. There isn't a glaring need to get younger at WR, IMO.

 

[tomson75]

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

There is more than 1 WR on the field during plays.

Except there is essentially only one starting spot since we traded our 1st for Williams. One starting spot and the occasional 3 wide formation doesn't give the young guys much of an opportunity. Putting more receivers on the field takes our TE's out of play, where we are clearly more talented.

No thanks.

 

[wileedog]

Main reason I want him is if Roy does get hurt, a 1, 2, 3 of Austin, Crayton and Hurd is very scary. And not for the other team.

 

[jday]

That's why I preface my desire for the Cowboy's to sign him with the contention that he come at the right price...otherwise, I'd pass.

 

[tunahelper]

If I was sold on RW and MA, I would agree.

This is how I see it as well. Both will probably perform well, but next year is too important without some insurance.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I'll be upset if we take a WR with our 2nd rounder, unless we wind up with 2 of them, when we have far more pressing needs then getting younger at WR.

The rest of our WR's are all under 30. There isn't a glaring need to get younger at WR, IMO.

Thats debatable.

We have Roy Willliams, somewhat proven and thats it.

Teaming Roy up with some young good talent would be ok with me.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

We sign a vet we move WR down in the Draft. I don't want to do that. There is good value where we pick in the 2nd round.

I don't understand why that is necessarily? Any WR we draft would not start in year 1 (or maybe even year 2) anyway, so why not sign Holt for 1-2 years until that rookie grows into the role -- provided Holt's willing to sign with Dallas, that is? If so, then that way Dallas can upgrade the position presently and for the futire with parallel moves in both free agency and the draft.

I mean, if Holt still has 1-2 years of ability in him why not try for him? Other arguments I hear are that it takes way from the younger WRs. That's a fair point, but only considerable if these younger players have more ability than what Holt can bring right now. Unlike T.O., Holt would not manopolize the offense to the point of holding the younger WRs' contributions back. Conversely, I think Holt could complement Williams, Austin and Crayton quite nicely, like he has done all of his career with his other teammates.

So if Holt can provide a real upgrade and is willing to sign, then the last question to answer is whether or not Garrett can use him successfully in his style of offense - whatever that ends up being in 2009 and beyond - in a way that complements the other WRs on the position roster. If Garrett can, then signing Holt to a fair market value contract would be the right move.

 

[dadymat]

What is going to bother me is when we are playing games and touchdowns are few and far between.


I hope thats not the case. But hope isnt always enough.

 

[NextGenBoys]

I want Holt, but only for the right price. I think that price will be too high.

Who I really want is Joey Galloway for say a 1 yr, 1 mill deal. Talk about the perfect compliment to Roy. He still has speed, and he knows the game.

Yeah he may get injured, but its not like we'd be asking him to be an every down player. I think he could help us out alot.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Thats debatable.

We have Roy Willliams, somewhat proven and thats it.

Teaming Roy up with some young good talent would be ok with me.

Out of curiousity what WRs do you see sitting there at that point in the second round that you're certain would come in and give you what a Torry Holt can, right out of the gates?

That's my only issue here. We have young recievers. Having a vet like Holt around to help them out wouldn't upset me. It also wouldn't upset me if we just go with Williams, Crayton, and Austin and let them go that way.

But this idea that we have to, or should, pass on Holt simply because he's what, 32, for the sake of getting younger at WR doesn't seem quite right to me. The rest of our recievers are under 30, except maybe Crayton is he 30 right now...so I don't see getting younger at WR as the most pressing need with our second round pick.

Again unless we make some moves and wind up with another 2nd rounder that is.