For those convinced Atlanta is a better team

[malbis030347]

you hit it on the head....that is this team for better or worse...!

 

[DIAF]

Roddy White does indeed have 385 yards and 4 TD's this season, 210 yards and 2 of those touchdowns against San Francisco. Outside of that game he's on pace for 700 yards.

I mention this SPECIFICALLY for our own experiences. Terrell Owens got 213 yards and 1 touchdown against that same weak secondary last season. Outside of that, he was on pace for 895 yards.

Point is that Roddy's stats were hugely inflated by that one game against a secondary that has proven itself under Singletary to just lay down and play dead on the field. They allowed 121 yards to Tim Hightower, receiving yards!

You look at Roddy's numbers and they are good over the last few years. He averaged 14.5 per catch in 2007 and 15.7 per catch in 08.

This year? Outside of the aberration? 9.2 ypc.

He's good, but we've shut down good receivers too.

Oh, the joy of small sample sizes.

Yeah, Roddy White, who is coming off of two back-to-back 80+ catch, 1200+ yard, 7+ TD seasons is really only a receiver who got lucky one week and would otherwise be good for only 700 yards. Which do you think he's actually closer to? If you think the latter, you seriously should stop watching football.

 

[CATCH17]

Im really not worried about any team we play.

What worries me is dumb penalties and dumb turnovers.

If we keep having mental mistakes than we'll struggle against every team.

 

[Falcon88]

..why not take a look at what they've actually accomplished this season?

Week1 Beat Miami in Atlanta 19-7. Gained 229 passing and 72 rushing. Gave up 176 passing and 82 yards rushing.

Week2 Beat Carolina in Atlanta 28-20. Gained 220 passing and 152 rushing. Gave up 308 passing and 144 rushing.

Week3 Lost 26 -10 at NE. Gained 199 passing and 59 rushing. Gave up 296 passing and 168 rushing.

Week4 Beat the 49ers in SF 38-10. Gained 329 passing and 148 rushing. Gave up 179 passing and 100 rushing.

Week5 Beat the Bears in Atlanta 21-14 Gained 185 passing and 68 rushing. Gave up 300 passing and 83 rushing.


They are 4-1. And 4-1 is 4-1. So that alone tells me they have a good shot to win.
But they have had the benefit of playing 3 of their first 5 at home While we've played three road games

Are we supposed to fear a team that's been out gained by thier opponents? By a team who defends the run as poorly as they do?

We have one opponent in common whom we played the week ater they did. We gained 170 yards more while Atlanta came up short over 70 yards.

Unlike the Falcons, we've out gained our opponents. Huge margins in our three wins and slight deficits in our two losses.

Good morning. Haven't seen any of my brethern here yet so I will get started. These are great stats but there many you did not post. We've given up the yardage against the run and pass, just not the points. We understand that our D is in transition. Have a bunch of guys most of you have probably never heard of. This is process for us that will take a few more years to complete. Just try if you can not to look at us like the Falcons of old. This is real team for the first time. We have our weaknesses but somehow we keep getting it done.

Glad to see Brooking here and playing better. It will be good game, looking forward to it.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Cool stats, but I didn't need them to know that Atl isn't that good. They average like 3.2 ypc and their weapons other than Gonzalez just don't scare me.

And they had no business beating Chicago.

Don't worry, our garbage secondary will make him look like Jerry Rice by games end.

 

[DFWJC]

Another person who thinks stats tell the whole story

Just go watch the games. Atlanta is a more disciplined team that doesnt self-destruct in critical situations. Their QB is playing better than ours. Most importantly, they do not have an inept head coach and offensive coordinator.

Flip schedules and Atlanta is 3-2 and Dallas is 4-1...imo.
Bottom line, we will see this Sunday.

 

[aikemirv]

If Romo played the same type of game Ryan did on Sunday, Cowboyszone would be ripping him a new one.

With you presumably leading the mindless mob.

Isn't that the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[TNCowboy]

For all the hype over Atlanta, they're one game better than the Cowboys. If Dallas wins (which is entirely possible), both teams will be 4-2 and Dallas will hold the tie-break advantage. But even if this happens, there will still be *****ing and moaning after the game. Too many posters on here have higher standards for the Cowboys than they do the opposition, causing them to inflate the greatness of every other team while downplaying whatever the Cowboys accomplish.

And if they lose, they'll have the same crowd making excuses for them.

 

[cowboyfreak]

Good morning. Haven't seen any of my brethern here yet so I will get started. These are great stats but there many you did not post. We've given up the yardage against the run and pass, just not the points. We understand that our D is in transition. Have a bunch of guys most of you have probably never heard of. This is process for us that will take a few more years to complete. Just try if you can not to look at us like the Falcons of old. This is real team for the first time. We have our weaknesses but somehow we keep getting it done.

Glad to see Brooking here and playing better. It will be good game, looking forward to it.

Nice post.

I really like what the Falcons are doing post-Vick. I love your head coach. I think you guys are now playing as a "team", which in today's NFL is not very common. I like your RBs and QB. I am still not sold on Roddy white as most are. That is probably due to my evaluations of him while Vick was there, which shouldn't cloud my judgment, but nevertheless. I think if you guys continue to improve your interior lines and secondary you will be a perennial force to be reckoned with.

 

[CATCH17]

For all the hype over Atlanta, they're one game better than the Cowboys. If Dallas wins (which is entirely possible), both teams will be 4-2 and Dallas will hold the tie-break advantage. But even if this happens, there will still be *****ing and moaning after the game. Too many posters on here have higher standards for the Cowboys than they do the opposition, causing them to inflate the greatness of every other team while downplaying whatever the Cowboys accomplish.

Thats a good point.

We play a lot of teams who will be fighting for a Wildcard spot.

I hope we win the division but at this point im just thinking Wildcard and winning these tie breakers.

Atlanta is going to be there at the end of the year.

 

[TNCowboy]

..why not take a look at what they've actually accomplished this season?

Week1 Beat Miami in Atlanta 19-7. Gained 229 passing and 72 rushing. Gave up 176 passing and 82 yards rushing.

Week2 Beat Carolina in Atlanta 28-20. Gained 220 passing and 152 rushing. Gave up 308 passing and 144 rushing.

Week3 Lost 26 -10 at NE. Gained 199 passing and 59 rushing. Gave up 296 passing and 168 rushing.

Week4 Beat the 49ers in SF 38-10. Gained 329 passing and 148 rushing. Gave up 179 passing and 100 rushing.

Week5 Beat the Bears in Atlanta 21-14 Gained 185 passing and 68 rushing. Gave up 300 passing and 83 rushing.


They are 4-1. And 4-1 is 4-1. So that alone tells me they have a good shot to win.
But they have had the benefit of playing 3 of their first 5 at home While we've played three road games

Are we supposed to fear a team that's been out gained by thier opponents? By a team who defends the run as poorly as they do?

We have one opponent in common whom we played the week ater they did. We gained 170 yards more while Atlanta came up short over 70 yards.

Unlike the Falcons, we've out gained our opponents. Huge margins in our three wins and slight deficits in our two losses.

Yards are hardly the biggest factor in who wins the game, especially when you're playing with the lead, as Atlanta has done most of the year. As we've seen repeatedly with the Cowboys (both good and bad), the NFL is often not about what you do between the 20s, but rather what you do inside them.

The Falcons are a good team, not a great team. They've been successful thusfar primarily because they have a +5 turnover ratio. They've struggled to run the ball, but avoiding mistakes has equaled wins. On the other hand, Dallas has been able to move the ball almost at will, for the most part. But their turnover ratio is -4.

Parcells said that the team with the fewest turnovers wins something like 83% of the time. It's arguable that Dallas is 5-0 if they were just even in the turnover department. But they're not. This bunch has proven themselves mistake-prone for 2 years now. I expect more of the same until they prove otherwise on the field.

 

[TNCowboy]

Good morning. Haven't seen any of my brethern here yet so I will get started. These are great stats but there many you did not post. We've given up the yardage against the run and pass, just not the points. We understand that our D is in transition. Have a bunch of guys most of you have probably never heard of. This is process for us that will take a few more years to complete. Just try if you can not to look at us like the Falcons of old. This is real team for the first time. We have our weaknesses but somehow we keep getting it done.

Glad to see Brooking here and playing better. It will be good game, looking forward to it.

The Falcons have done a great job putting things together the last few years. They especially scored big-time in getting Ryan.

As dirty as Petrino did them, that looks like the best thing that can happen.

 

[reddyuta]

Another person who thinks stats tell the whole story

Just go watch the games. Atlanta is a more disciplined team that doesnt self-destruct in critical situations. Their QB is playing better than ours. Most importantly, they do not have an inept head coach and offensive coordinator.

i want to disagree with you but i have yet to see our offense play mistake free football even a single game this season.if we do then we are pretty much unbeatable.

 

[Falcon88]

Appreciate the welcome. Haven't seen the Boys play this season. Guess from what I've read here it hasn't been perfect so far. For us I see to glaring facts coming into this weekend that make me uncomfortable. In your house and coming off the bye. How do the Cowboys fair coming off the bye? The league % is ridiculous. We have 4 games w/teams coming off the bye this season one of which is over. Not an easy schedule.

 

[kramskoi]

I don't know what to say much about their rush D. I haven't seen their games. Maybe the opponents got many of those yards in garbage time. But if not, their rush D ranges from average to very poor. Maybe Garrett can take advantage of that.

...they had real trouble with Maroney when they played New England...

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Here's the main matchup. Teams with above average QBs gain a tom of yqrds on them. Teams with good TEs kill them over the middle. Dallas has the advantage there because we have an above-average QB and a 2-TE offense featuring one of the game's best TEs.

Now Atlanta has been good defensively in the red-zone because of their great CB play. While their starters are solid they have NO depth, and they just lost their best CB late in the Chicago game. So this advantage of being good defensively in the red-zone disappears. Dallas just needs ot take advantage since they seem to struggle scoring in the red-zone, not because of the players but because of horroble play calling. It's put-up or shut-up time for Garrett in this game.

On offense, all Atlanta has is an above-average QB and an above-average TE that is their primary receiver. They also have a good back, but I like our LBs against good backs. But Dallas is getting Sensibaugh (sp?) back, who is a master at blanketing TEs. They laso don't have any WRs that scare anyone, so the safeties can worry about the TE without our defense being spread too thin. Sorry but this advantage goes to Dallas.

Finally, on special teams, they are average at best. Dallas is better talent-wise. Advantage Dallas.

Home-filed avantage: Dallas.

Rest coming off the bye: Advantage, Dallas.

Getting healthier while the opponetn gets un-healthier: Advantage, Dallas.

Coaching: Advantage Falcons. (This is where Dallas can lose this game)

So all the way around, this is Dalls' game to win. If Dallas' loses, it won't be because of anything Atlanta did that could not have been overcome. So if Dallas id finally poised to take their game a notch higher, I see no way that they lose this one.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

..why not take a look at what they've actually accomplished this season?

Week1 Beat Miami in Atlanta 19-7. Gained 229 passing and 72 rushing. Gave up 176 passing and 82 yards rushing.

Week2 Beat Carolina in Atlanta 28-20. Gained 220 passing and 152 rushing. Gave up 308 passing and 144 rushing.

Week3 Lost 26 -10 at NE. Gained 199 passing and 59 rushing. Gave up 296 passing and 168 rushing.

Week4 Beat the 49ers in SF 38-10. Gained 329 passing and 148 rushing. Gave up 179 passing and 100 rushing.

Week5 Beat the Bears in Atlanta 21-14 Gained 185 passing and 68 rushing. Gave up 300 passing and 83 rushing.


They are 4-1. And 4-1 is 4-1. So that alone tells me they have a good shot to win.
But they have had the benefit of playing 3 of their first 5 at home While we've played three road games

Are we supposed to fear a team that's been out gained by thier opponents? By a team who defends the run as poorly as they do?

We have one opponent in common whom we played the week ater they did. We gained 170 yards more while Atlanta came up short over 70 yards.

Unlike the Falcons, we've out gained our opponents. Huge margins in our three wins and slight deficits in our two losses.

They beat a team with a winning record we haven't.

 

[TheCount]

I'm not sure what you expect the thread to accomplish, but we've got plenty of question marks of our own. There's nothing about Atlanta that scares me, there is plenty of bumbling by the Cowboys to make me feel like we could just as easily end up losing though.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I'm not sure what you expect the thread to accomplish, but we've got plenty of question marks of our own. There's nothing about Atlanta that scares me, there is plenty of bumbling by the Cowboys to make me feel like we could just as easily end up losing though.

Roddy White Anthony Gonzalez and Micheal Turner are pretty legit

 

[TNCowboy]

i want to disagree with you but i have yet to see our offense play mistake free football even a single game this season.if we do then we are pretty much unbeatable.

Mistake-free is almost impossible. What would be a reasonable goal is to commit no more than one turnover and no more than 5 or 6 penalties. Just a reasonable number of mistakes and Dallas is probably undefeated.

But that's what has seemed to be in this team's way since 2005. They look good enough to win, except turnovers, penalties, and special teams mistakes keep them a notch below where they need to be.

Maybe that's just what the core players of this team are. Talented, but to stupid to ever get it right.