For those who don't think Drew makes the HOF

[KingTuna]

If Drew plays to 42 he'll have 65,000 yards and still have less ints than VT. YOU do realize Vt has the NFL career record for most int's.....

:laugh2: Right on Nors!

Bledsoe would own the NFL record books BUT the INT catagory if he played until he was 42..

VT is an INT machine....ALways has been since he started in the League.

 

[Wolverine]

NORs will like it when I say I totally agree with him on what he has said. I also agree with the others who think Bledsoe should have a real shot at the HOF.


Those bringing up the Brady thing and how he is the QB who took over for Bledsoe. Well that is true but what QB is that won one of the AFC Championships but was not allowed to play in the Super Bowl. The same Super Bowl that Brady won. Yep. It was Drew Bledsoe that lead them to the Super Bowl but Brady got to play in. So one can say that one of those Super Bowls that Brady got to was off of Bledsoes back.


Now lets compare how Brady and Bledsoe are doing right now.

Brady -

119-182 65.4% 1522 yards 8.32 ypa. 7 TDs 4 INTs 0 rushing TDs. 95.1 rating.


Bledsoe -

98-159 62% 1351 yards 8.50 ypa. 10 TDs 3 INTs 1 rushing TD and a 102.0 rating.



In his 1st year in Dallas with new players he has a 3+ to 1 TD/INT. Brady is less then 2-1.

Bledsoe has Brady beat in TD passes fewer INTs and he has Brady beat in yards per attempt and a better QB rating to.



And for those of you who bring up how Bledsoe was replaced in Buffalo to. Well I would bring up the guys stats who replaced but well...he is no longer starting there.



For those of you who bring up his being replaced and all this other stuff. Well you are missing some real obvious things.


I can not remember the Cowboys offense ever being this dangerous. Since Bledsoe has come here our offense has made huge improvements. When was the last time we had a QB who has had more TD passes then INTs. I cant remember.

Bledsoe burns blitzs. Our deep passing game is very dangerous. Bledsoe is a big reason why we have 3 wins. Our running game is average at best.

In our big game with Philly can someone please tell me the last Cowboy QB to totally dominate the Eagles like Bledsoe did. you know over 200 yards passing and 3 TD passes in just the 1st half. The only reason he did not have bigger numbers was cuz we had such a big lead and we went conservative.

OH if it takes you some time to name the last Cowboy QB that dominated Philly like that....its OK I understand.

This was a 6-10 team last year and things were not lookin good. Since Bledsoe has come here he has been huge in turning this team around. Those who say he is not HOF cuz of how Brady has done in NE well......you are wrong. Its not about what Brady does.

What it is about is how is helping turn around the Dallas Cowboys. And Bledsoe so far has done a great job of turning this team around. We have a QB now that teams fear. That DCs have to plan around.

When we 1st got Bledsoe I was not to happy. I thought that Parcells would just hand the job to him. Well I am very happy to eat crow on that. Right now not only would Romo and Henson not have a prayer at beating out Bledsoe to start in Dallas. I am not sure if any QB could right now.

Bledsoe is one of the top 3 QBs right now. He aint slowin down at all. He has many more years left in him thats for sure.


If Bledsoe wins the Super Bowl with Dallas he is a lock for the HOF. He might even go in as a Cowboy since he turned the team around and that is the team he won it with. If he wins 2 here in Dallas he goes into the HOF as a Cowboy and then 3 Cowboy QBs are HOFers.

I will say this. It could be 3rd down and 20. But even if it is that I beleive we have a chance at gettin a 1st down cuz of who is thrown the ball. I never had that kinda faith before in our QBs.


Who cares what Brady has done since taking over for Bledsoe. All that matters is how Bledsoe is doing a good job of turning around the Cowboys and cuz it is the Cowboys MORE PEOPLE see it and notice it.


I just hope Bledsoe can win at least 1 Super Bowl here and I would be so lovin it if he could get 2 here.

Bledsoe has won me over that is for sure.

 

[Wolverine]

Oh and yea. If Bledsoe wins a Super Bowl here in Dallas then yeah NORs is right. Cowboy fans will mention him with Staubach and Aikman. If he wins 2 Cowboy fans will want him in the Ring of Honor.

 

[Hostile]

I can not remember the Cowboys offense ever being this dangerous.

Oh to be this young and naive.

 

[Wolverine]

Oh to be this young and naive.

Outta all the things I said you had to pick this. Well I guess it is cuz you just can not answer this other stuff.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

One can also say that without Brady the Pats would have never been in that position to begin with.

 

[Wolverine]

Hostile is silent!! I won.

 

[jay cee]

Robert Horry should be considered. He shouldn't get in but for what he's done in the playoffs, he should be considered. How many rings does he have? 5 or six? How many of those teams have rings without his last minute shots in the playoffs? 1?

:bang2:

That's what I'm talking about HOF consideration should IMO be about outstanding production.

How many last minute playoff shots would he have been able to take if not for the great play of the superstars that carried him into the playoffs.

No way should that career 7.5 points 5 rebound per game averaging power forward even sniff the HOF unless Hakeem, Shaq or Duncan asks him to make their presentation speech.

 

[jay cee]

I think this is an interesting discussion. I have to say that before he joined the cowboys I would not have considered DB a possible HOF candidate. But he might be.

What is so hard is to deconstruct what a player meant to the team while considering the other pieces in place. DB is not an Elway Favre Marino type player that could carry a team on his shoulders. However, he does I think compare to a guy like Aikman who couldn't carry an average team, but when good pieces were in place, wasn't just good, but was spectacular.

After watching DB this year, I think the Aikman comparison is pretty apt. Both are dropback passers, neither good at avoiding the rush. Both had strong arms and frankly both held onto the ball. When the Cowboys were good and had the timing offense, this wasn't a problem for Aikman because someone was almost always open and he knew where to go with the ball. But when all the pieces were not in place, Aikman took a lot of shots that he just did not have the ability to avoid.

There are some differences between Aikman and DB of course. Aikman was uncannily accurate on the short and intermediate passes. DB is not as accurate on those, but is probably a better deep passer.

I think you make a great point.

 

[Hostile]

Outta all the things I said you had to pick this. Well I guess it is cuz you just can not answer this other stuff.

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Wolverine,

Bledsoe is indeed having a great season thus far.

Lets take a look at the defenses that Bledsoe has faced.

The Chargers - #21
The Commanders - #5
The 49ers - #32
The Raiders - #29
The Eagles - # 20

The only formidable D that Bledsoe has faced is the Commanders.

Even take a look at scoring.

SD - #21
WAS - #4
SF - #32
OAK - #20
Philly - # 17

Stats are meaningless sometimes, but with all of these teams having at least 4 games under their belts it should tell you something.

 

[Wolverine]

Wolverine,


The only formidable D that Bledsoe has faced is the Commanders.

.

The only reason your D held us to 13 points was cuz Parcells went in playing not to lose. If he played to win and opened it up like he did against Philly then we woulda been good for at least 21 points on you.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

The only reason your D held us to 13 points was cuz Parcells went in playing not to lose. If he played to win and opened it up like he did against Philly then we woulda been good for at least 21 points on you.

Yeah thats the only reason. haha.

Take a peek at how many games the Commanders have given up over 21 points in a game over the past 20 games (Since Gibbs was back) as opposed to how many times the Cowboys have.

This will be enlightening for more than a few of you.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Guess I should say the opposite about the offense.

 

[Wolverine]

Yeah thats the only reason. haha.

Take a peek at how many games the Commanders have given up over 21 points in a game over the past 20 games (Since Gibbs was back) as opposed to how many times the Cowboys have.

This will be enlightening for more than a few of you.

When we score at least 21 points in your house in the 2nd game you will see I am right. But then I am always right.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

When we score at least 21 points in your house in the 2nd game you will see I am right. But then I am always right.

At least?

Make a prediction now. Not just the vague "at least".

 

[Kilyin]

Wolverine,

Bledsoe is indeed having a great season thus far.

Lets take a look at the defenses that Bledsoe has faced.

The Chargers - #21
The Commanders - #5
The 49ers - #32
The Raiders - #29
The Eagles - # 20

The only formidable D that Bledsoe has faced is the Commanders.

Even take a look at scoring.

SD - #21
WAS - #4
SF - #32
OAK - #20
Philly - # 17

Stats are meaningless sometimes, but with all of these teams having at least 4 games under their belts it should tell you something.

Isn't it fair to say that Dallas had a big hand in those teams landing where they currently are in those rankings?

Commanders are stout on defense, but if you're implying that Philadelphia and San Diego are generally touted as weak defenses, I'm gonna have to disagree. Oakland and San Fran i'll give you though.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Isn't it fair to say that Dallas had a big hand in those teams landing where they currently are in those rankings?

Commanders are stout on defense, but if you're implying that Philadelphia and San Diego are generally touted as weak defenses, I'm gonna have to disagree. Oakland and San Fran i'll give you though.

Fair to say indeed.

However Oakland nor Philly has looked great otherwise.

 

[Nors]

For the Stabler, Archie Manning HOF supporters:

Archie Manning - Aints 23,000 yards 125 TD 173 iNT - NEXT
Stabler - Gambler 28,000 yards 194 TD 222 iNT - NEXT

Bledsoe 41,000 yards (33) 234 TD 184 iNT - A candidate for HOF

 

[Nors]

Wolverine,

Bledsoe is indeed having a great season thus far.

Lets take a look at the defenses that Bledsoe has faced.

The Chargers - #21
The Commanders - #5
The 49ers - #32
The Raiders - #29
The Eagles - # 20

The only formidable D that Bledsoe has faced is the Commanders.

Even take a look at scoring.

SD - #21
WAS - #4
SF - #32
OAK - #20
Philly - # 17

Stats are meaningless sometimes, but with all of these teams having at least 4 games under their belts it should tell you something.

It tells me we are scoring 24 points a game.