For those who don't think Drew makes the HOF

[Wolverine]

Bledsoe is just not a Hall of Fame player. He has impressive stats, but I just dont think there was ever a time where he was a Top 2-3 QB at any given time during a span of an entire Season multiple times.

There is just nothing you can point too that sets him apart from everyone else. What is he known for? What are some legendary plays that he was part of? What has he won?

Not every Quarterback that has really good numbers can get into the Hall of Fame. It is an extremely exclusive club and should be reserved for those that were truly great and were the best of their Era.

Put it like this. If you put an All-Decade Team together, not just the 90s or 2000s, but let's just say a 10 Year span when Bledsoe played, I dont think he even sniffs the 5th string Quarterback position. John Elway, Brett Favre, Dan Marino, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Steve Young, the QB for the Oilers, but name escapes me, Troy Aikman, and I am sure I am missing some would probably all be selected ahead of him. I would take all of those Quarterbacks who played when Bledsoe played over Bledsoe and I bet alot of people would.

Im sorry, if that number of QBs would be chosen over you, then you were not the best in your Era, and should not be in Hall of Fame.

The Key is to compare him to Quarterbacks of his era, not all QBs that are in the Hall of Fame because the game a little different in 1940 then it is now....

- Mike G.

My dad said it best. With Steve Young getting in on a 1st ballot then even if Bledsoe never wins the SB he should still get in at some time. Young moved into the house the Joe Montana built and never had to grow with a team that sucked and make it better. Young was given a Super Bowl team to work with and only got the job done 1 time. If someone like that can get in then a guy like Bledsoe who turned the Pats from being the joke of the NFL to a Super Bowl contender and is now helping turn the Cowboys around big should get in to.

 

[Justis]

Bledsoe is just not a Hall of Fame player. He has impressive stats, but I just dont think there was ever a time where he was a Top 2-3 QB at any given time during a span of an entire Season multiple times.

There is just nothing you can point too that sets him apart from everyone else. What is he known for? What are some legendary plays that he was part of? What has he won?

Not every Quarterback that has really good numbers can get into the Hall of Fame. It is an extremely exclusive club and should be reserved for those that were truly great and were the best of their Era.

Put it like this. If you put an All-Decade Team together, not just the 90s or 2000s, but let's just say a 10 Year span when Bledsoe played, I dont think he even sniffs the 5th string Quarterback position. John Elway, Brett Favre, Dan Marino, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Steve Young, the QB for the Oilers, but name escapes me, Troy Aikman, and I am sure I am missing some would probably all be selected ahead of him. I would take all of those Quarterbacks who played when Bledsoe played over Bledsoe and I bet alot of people would.

Im sorry, if that number of QBs would be chosen over you, then you were not the best in your Era, and should not be in Hall of Fame.

The Key is to compare him to Quarterbacks of his era, not all QBs that are in the Hall of Fame because the game a little different in 1940 then it is now....

- Mike G.

Warren Moon

 

[Givincer]

Elway would have been in without the wins. It's not the same.

Take a look at Elway's TD/Int ratio when he was 33 last 4 years of his career he threw up a 2:1 ratio and made his ratio decent. At 33 Bledsoe sits with asimilar ratio that Elway did. Who's to say he doesn't throw up a 2:1 ratio for 4 years? What would have gotten Elway in other than stats if he didn't win the superbowl? What's different? I know you'll say Bledsoe has been on 3 different teams but if his stay in Dallas is succesful I think it says a lot about Bledsoe being able to adapt to the team he's on and play well quickly.

 

[NorTex]

Listen up people.

Steve Young played on THREE teams. USFL, Tampa Bay and then as a BACKUP/BENCHWARMER on th 49ers...He is in the HOF and he's not better than Bledsoe. Young had a high completion rate just because of the short passing game that they played...lots of dinks and dunks.

Joe Montana played for the Chiefs after the 49ers let him loose...He's in the HOF.

So what if Bledsoe is on his 3rd team. It has no bearing on his HOF credentials.

Bledsoe will get in the HOF if he achieves one of the following two:

1) Wins a Superbowl as starting QB

or

2) Passes for 50,000 yards.

 

[Givincer]

Listen up people.

Steve Young played on THREE teams. USFL, Tampa Bay and then as a BACKUP/BENCHWARMER on th 49ers...He is in the HOF and he's not better than Bledsoe. Young had a high completion rate just because of the short passing game that they played...lots of dinks and dunks.

Joe Montana played for the Chiefs after the 49ers let him loose...He's in the HOF.

So what if Bledsoe is on his 3rd team. It has no bearing on his HOF credentials.

Bledsoe will get in the HOF if he achieves one of the following two:

1) Wins a Superbowl as starting QB

or

2) Passes for 50,000 yards.

I agree only 3 people have passed for over 50000yds that is a pretty special mark. Elway Favre and Marino very special category to be in and if he has 50000+ and doesn't get in I'd be pretty angry because it's such a small group of people who have done it.

 

[Hostile]

Take a look at Elway's TD/Int ratio when he was 33 last 4 years of his career he threw up a 2:1 ratio and made his ratio decent. At 33 Bledsoe sits with asimilar ratio that Elway did. Who's to say he doesn't throw up a 2:1 ratio for 4 years? What would have gotten Elway in other than stats if he didn't win the superbowl? What's different? I know you'll say Bledsoe has been on 3 different teams but if his stay in Dallas is succesful I think it says a lot about Bledsoe being able to adapt to the team he's on and play well quickly.

Take a look at the legend of John Elway and the comeback wins.

I told you, it isn't about the stats, it's about the impact on the game.

Vinny, DeBerg, and Kreig have great stats. They aren't in.

Impact, impact, impact.

 

[Rack]

Take a look at the legend of John Elway and the comeback wins.

I told you, it isn't about the stats, it's about the impact on the game.

Vinny, DeBerg, and Kreig have great stats. They aren't in.

Impact, impact, impact.

Exactly. Anyone that can't figure out why Elway is a HoF QB and Bledsoe isn't simply doesn't understand the game.

Elway is the greatest QB of all time, IMO. And that's with or without the rings. QBs don't win superbowls, TEAMS do. Elway is living proof of that. He lost 3 superbowls cuz eventhough he was great, his teams weren't. When he finally won his two rings it was cuz he was on great teams (him being a big reason they were great, but not the only reason).

 

[Chief]

A person could drive him or herself crazy trying to figure out who gets into the hall of fame and why.

There's no rhyme or reason most of the time.

You can go by stats and it doesn't work.

You can go by Super Bowls and it doesn't add up.

What makes it even more impossible is when you have a thread littered with erroneous information.

I usually just pretend the dung heap in Canton doesn't exist. Life is a lot simpler that way.

 

[Hostile]

Exactly. Anyone that can't figure out why Elway is a HoF QB and Bledsoe isn't simply doesn't understand the game.

Elway is the greatest QB of all time, IMO. And that's with or without the rings. QBs don't win superbowls, TEAMS do. Elway is living proof of that. He lost 3 superbowls cuz eventhough he was great, his teams weren't. When he finally won his two rings it was cuz he was on great teams (him being a big reason they were great, but not the only reason).

Bledsoe has better stats than Troy Aikman.

Aikman's impact on the game > Bledsoe's stats.

It's simple math. The best thing any player can have on their side as a reason why they deserve the Hall is a legendary impact.

 

[dbair1967]

I usually just pretend the dung heap in Canton doesn't exist. Life is a lot simpler that way.

totally agree...Canton is a joke now

the best of the best arnt always getting in and hypocrisy rules with the voters

David

 

[Givincer]

Take a look at the legend of John Elway and the comeback wins.

I told you, it isn't about the stats, it's about the impact on the game.

Vinny, DeBerg, and Kreig have great stats. They aren't in.

Impact, impact, impact.

The latest update on career comeback victories I could find for Bledsoe was 22 in Week 5 of 2003 - In 145 games Bledsoe had 22 comeback victories
Elway in 234 games had 47 comeback victories it's a 5% difference - So essentially I don't believe that is enough to let Elway in on (impact, legend) if he is that similar to Bledsoe ...

 

[dbair1967]

Take a look at the legend of John Elway and the comeback wins.

.

I'm not going to argue that Elway wasnt great or didnt deserve HOF, but I honestly think this "come from behind victories" stat is just garbage...what does it really mean? How can you give them credit for "come from behind" wins when if the teams defense doesnt step up and stop people, you never get a chance to come from behind...similarly, if a guy is so great why does his team have to play from behind so much anyway? why cant he play great at the beginning of a game and get a lead?

and to further prove my argument about how lame the "come from behind wins" stat is, look no further than an ESPN stat shown yesterday...Aaron Brooks and Jake Plummer were the current leaders in "come from behind wins" among active QB's

like I said, totally worthless stat and one I dont give any shred of weight to when I look at how good a QB is

David

 

[jem88]

Here is the complete list, you are correct. What is interesting is that Bledsoe is better than at least 1/2 of the guys on the list and only a handful won superbowls.

Ken Anderson, Steve Deberg, John Brodie, Esiason, Everett to name a few were no better than Bledsoe and his total stats will be better in terms of yds, tds and QB rating vs. most of those guys.

You may be right about Bledsoe being better than the guys you've mentioned but honestly, how can anybody take your post seriously given the obviously lack of research. Are we really to believe that you have any idea of what kind of player Ken Anderson was, when you weren't even aware that Steve Deberg isn't in the HOF? Best to talk about the things you know about.

 

[sago1]

DB has very good stats while he was with NE and he did indeed get his team into the playoffs several times as well as to the SB (1996) but unfortunately Green Bay beat NE. Some of the HOF QBs you cite got there years before passing become a high priority like it has become in the last 20 or so years. Also his playing on 3 teams won't help him cause neither NE nor Buffalo will go to bat for him; also his time in Buffalo has hurt him (much of it not his fault in my opinion but his coaches and poor drafting). I really believe he has to get the Cowboys to several playoffs where we have to win at least 1-2 games. Winning a SB would make a world of difference for him and frankly I think he wants that very much. If he has a good career in Dallas (winning 1-2 SBs), he gets into HOF. Given how he left NE and Buffalo, there is no way he will want to go into the HOF as anything but a Cowboy if Jerry Jones will support him. And remember if he gets into HOF it is totally his choice which team he would go into as.

 

[Nors]

The main reason some think he will not make the HOF is that he has not had a huge impact on the game like contemporary QBs.

For example, Vinny, Dave Kreig, and Steve Deberg all have stats that eclipse some of the QBs of previous eras. However they haven't made the impact on the game that those players did.

Drew is in the same boat. He has impressive stats but that's his entire trump. If he had Super Bowl wins he'd have better chances. If he stayed his entire career with one team and led them to the playoffs a lot he'd have better chances.

Bledsoe reclamated the 1-15 Pats to respectability fast. Took them to a Super Bowl and won another AFC Chamionship game on the road in 2000. In his stay there he had as dominant a 5-6 year run as any QB that has played the game.

He made Pro Bowl in 2002 and threw for 2400 resurecting the 3-13 Bills to playoff contenders.

He takes this Cowboy team over the top he's clearly a HOF QB.

His stats will dward, Essiason, Krieg. In fact at age 33 he's going to continue to hit some significant milestones. 50,000 yards and 300 TD's.

 

[Danny White]

Chief has the post of the thread. Who the hell knows what will happen with Bledsoe. You could have equally interesting arguments about guys like Bettis, and Curtis Martin, and maybe even Terrell Davis of the current era.

My own opinion is that he will certainly get to 50,000 yards (hopefully while playing with the Cowboys) but that he'll also need a Super Bowl win as a starter, or at least another Super Bowl appearance as starter (also hopefully with the Cowboys).

I doubt if Drew cares about the HOF at this point, but hopefully he understands what a SB ring would do to his legacy and that he does everything he can to win one here in the next three years.

If he gets a ring with us, and eclipses 50K, I'm sure even Hos would admit he deserves to get in.

 

[Nors]

He gets to 50,000 yards and wins a Super Bowl as a Cowboy.

He will be revered right up there with Staubach and Aikman - in Cowboy Lore....thats how that works

 

[Hostile]

He gets to 50,000 yards and wins a Super Bowl as a Cowboy.

He will be revered right up there with Staubach and Aikman - in Cowboy Lore....thats how that works

Revered?

Naw. Because 40k+ of those yards won't be in our uni.

 

[jay cee]

Bledsoe has better stats than Troy Aikman.

Aikman's impact on the game > Bledsoe's stats.

It's simple math. The best thing any player can have on their side as a reason why they deserve the Hall is a legendary impact.

Aikman had great impact on the game when he he played on a great team. That's about 4 or 5 out of his 12 seasons in the league.

I don't see much difference in what Aikman did from '89-91 or 97-00 than Bledsoe. Except when Bledsoe played on bad teams, he could at least put up pro bowl type numbers.

 

[Nors]

Hos - Bledsoe wins a Super Bowl here and he carries the offense. He'll be revered in Cowboy history. Big ifs