Four round Mock

[darthseinfeld]

#1 Brent Hundley, QB UCLA

Talked about as a potential top 5 pick, he has been slipping this season. Still a first round talent and would benefit great from a year or two of NFL coaching before being a starter.

#2 Trey Flowers, DE Arkansas

A deep DE class hurts him and benifits us as I think he lasts to the tail end of round 2. A playmaker and good fit on the strong side, needs to develop more pass rush moves. However je impacts in 2015 as a talented in body in a "swarming rotation" on the DL

#3 Quandre Diggs, CB Texas

Dont know a whole lot about him or the CB class as of now, but Ive heard he is very tenacious and that is what we need from our CBs. We need an Anti Claiborne, a guy that is going to come in and fight and play hard for his snaps. I think this is a good spot to get someone to come in with some talent and still fight to get on the field. Id like to hear some UT guys chime in on Diggs

#4 Tevin Coleman, HB Indiana

A very good all around back that would go higher if it wasnt for the devalue of the position and strength of the draft. A guy who could be the bell cow in 2015, or could be a very high end backup. Im a huge stan of Coleman

 

[supercowboy8]

I like you round 3 and 4 but hate round 1 and 2. Just think it's a bad idea to draft a qb early when romo is here for another few years.

Also not a big fan of Hundley this year. Don't think he is a 1st round talent.

 

[supercowboy8]

I just think 1st round has to be a day one starting player that can make an impact. Now if there is a qb there in the 2nd-4th that Garrett and coaches really like. Then by all means.
I just think it would be hard to pass on a defensive game changer if there for a back up QB for 2 to 3 years

 

[Leadbelly]

No problem taking a QB in RD1 for me. Hundley seems like a quality kid. Has nice accuracy and physical tools.

I don't know...dare I bring up the M word - moxie. I don't see any. Just doesn't seem like a real field general, especially for a redshirt Jr. It's also a concern to me that he is kind of the same player he was two years ago. With his raw ability, he shouldn't have peaked as a frosh. I guess if he clearly didn't have questions he wouldn't be getting mocked as a mid-to-late RD1.

Liked him a lot his first year, so I'm surprised to not love him two years later. I agree he still needs a couple years of seasoning and it's probably ideal that they would happen while Romo is still here.

 

[darthseinfeld]

No problem taking a QB in RD1 for me. Hundley seems like a quality kid. Has nice accuracy and physical tools.

I don't know...dare I bring up the M word - moxie. I don't see any. Just doesn't seem like a real field general, especially for a redshirt Jr. It's also a concern to me that he is kind of the same player he was two years ago. With his raw ability, he shouldn't have peaked as a frosh. I guess if he clearly didn't have questions he wouldn't be getting mocked as a mid-to-late RD1.

Liked him a lot his first year, so I'm surprised to not love him two years later. I agree he still needs a couple years of seasoning and it's probably ideal that they would happen while Romo is still here.

Hundley is a risk, but its very hard to find that kind of talent that late. Letting him sit learn and mature could go a long way towards his confidence when he steps on to the field.

Also help him work out some of his kinks like his touch

 

[RS12]

I like you round 3 and 4 but hate round 1 and 2. Just think it's a bad idea to draft a qb early when romo is here for another few years.

Also not a big fan of Hundley this year. Don't think he is a 1st round talent.

Why do you keep making the assumption that Romo can hold up physically for years? I dont care how long the contract is for because so far it doesnt look like it. Jerry wanted JFB for more than selling gear.

 

[RS12]

No problem taking a QB in RD1 for me. Hundley seems like a quality kid. Has nice accuracy and physical tools.

I don't know...dare I bring up the M word - moxie. I don't see any. Just doesn't seem like a real field general, especially for a redshirt Jr. It's also a concern to me that he is kind of the same player he was two years ago. With his raw ability, he shouldn't have peaked as a frosh. I guess if he clearly didn't have questions he wouldn't be getting mocked as a mid-to-late RD1.

Liked him a lot his first year, so I'm surprised to not love him two years later. I agree he still needs a couple years of seasoning and it's probably ideal that they would happen while Romo is still here.

I think Jerry has eyes for Winston who is definitely leaving early and could easily slip.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Why do you keep making the assumption that Romo can hold up physically for years? I dont care how long the contract is for because so far it doesnt look like it. Jerry wanted JFB for more than selling gear.

I dont know that he can, but we arent getting a day 1 starter at QB in the late first. You want to replace Romo short term you are going to need a vet backup and hope it works out

 

[supercowboy8]

Why do you keep making the assumption that Romo can hold up physically for years? I dont care how long the contract is for because so far it doesnt look like it. Jerry wanted JFB for more than selling gear.

Jerry never wanted JFB. He just says that to get media attention. Also JFB sucks so I'm glad we didnt. Why do you keep making the assumption some 1st round QB is going to be able to come in and make a difference. I can give you a long list of 1st round QBs that suck in the nfl and aren't even starting.

We have 1 in weeden. Next year we can get locker or ponder as a back up. Both former 1st round picks. I just think it's stupid to draft back ups in the 1st round.

 

[supercowboy8]

I think Jerry has eyes for Winston who is definitely leaving early and could easily slip.

Good gawd I hope not. Vince young version 2

 

[RS12]

Jerry never wanted JFB. He just says that to get media attention. Also JFB sucks so I'm glad we didnt. Why do you keep making the assumption some 1st round QB is going to be able to come in and make a difference. I can give you a long list of 1st round QBs that suck in the nfl and aren't even starting.

We have 1 in weeden. Next year we can get locker or ponder as a back up. Both former 1st round picks. I just think it's stupid to draft back ups in the 1st round.

Nether of whom can play.

 

[supercowboy8]

Nether of whom can play.

But yet both 1st round picks. Whose to say JFB can play or any QB you draft in the 1st. I would rather take the day one starter defensive play maker in the 1st this year that will help this team more this year than some QB to ride the bench

 

[darthseinfeld]

Being shortsighted and only willing to take day 1 starters is how you end up hoping Charlie Whitehurst works out.

Draft is a marathon not a sprint

 

[Leadbelly]

I think Jerry has eyes for Winston who is definitely leaving early and could easily slip.

Lol, I also think he'll drop so it should be interesting.

Other voices in the war room won the JFB battle. Hard to see Jerry being the type to back down in back to back drafts. Winston may be too much for him to pass up. Bet he even would trade up. The cowboyszone server would catch fire.

Of course Dorial Green-Beckham and DeVonte Fields could be there as well. Jerry could have his pick of the Three Stooges. His heart might give.

 

[supercowboy8]

Being shortsighted and only willing to take day 1 starters is how you end up hoping Charlie Whitehurst works out.

Draft is a marathon not a sprint

No its not. That's how you get Martin over JFB. Reaching for a round 1 QB is how you get Locker, Ponder, Weeden, Gabbert.

Go back and look at the history. Show me how many late round 1st round QBs have made it in the NFL. Can't count top 5 because we most likely won't be picking top 5 or top 10 even. Most of the time late 1st round picks are reaches and they turn out as bust.

 

[darthseinfeld]

No its not. That's how you get Martin over JFB. Reaching for a round 1 QB is how you get Locker, Ponder, Weeden, Gabbert.

Go back and look at the history. Show me how many late round 1st round QBs have made it in the NFL. Can't count top 5 because we most likely won't be picking top 5 or top 10 even. Most of the time late 1st round picks are reaches and they turn out as bust.

Dalton was an early 2nd, hes doing fine. Kaepernick was an early 2nd, hes doing fine. Drew Brees .Then there is that guy in Green Bay who was a late first, hes been decent. All guys that went from picks 20 to 40

And as far as shortsightedness, didnt you freak out when we passed on Roger Saffold for Dez Bryant on another forum?

 

[supercowboy8]

Dalton was an early 2nd, hes doing fine. Kaepernick was an early 2nd, hes doing fine. Drew Brees .Then there is that guy in Green Bay who was a late first, hes been decent. All guys that went from picks 20 to 40

And as far as shortsightedness, didnt you freak out when we passed on Roper Saffold for Dez Bryant on another forum?

Haha no. I never wanted saffold. You have me confused.
Also those guys are 2nd round picks and did a rodgers help Favre win another superbowl? Nope but Roddy white might have.
I'm fine drafting a QB in the 2nd-4th but my argument was drafting a day one starter in the 1st not a back up.

Go back 10 years, only Rodgers and Flacco are the only ones who has been drafted late 1st thay has done anything.

My argument which you forgot was drafting a back up in the 1st round when we can get a day one starter that can help at another position.

I just see no reason to draft a backup round 1 to sit on the bench and not try and help Romo win a Superbowl.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Haha no. I never wanted saffold. You have me confused.
Also those guys are 2nd round picks and did a rodgers help Favre win another superbowl? Nope but Roddy white might have.
I'm fine drafting a QB in the 2nd-4th but my argument was drafting a day one starter in the 1st not a back up.

Go back 10 years, only Rodgers and Flacco are the only ones who has been drafted late 1st thay has done anything.

My argument which you forgot was drafting a back up in the 1st round when we can get a day one starter that can help at another position.

I just see no reason to draft a backup round 1 to sit on the bench and not try and help Romo win a Superbowl.

I dont care about day 1 starters in the first round. I dont care about day 1 starters in the draft period. Its nice to get but if you go into the draft needing to get a plug and play starter your personel department is worthless. The draft is about building a team for the long run.

Late first and early second are all tier two guys. Not much of a difference other then a number. We obviously differ on drafting. I would much rather draft and develop an Aaron Rodgers then draft a Marcus Spears

 

[darthseinfeld]

And like RS said, we cant just assume anymore the Romo will hold up for years

 

[waving monkey]

Why do you keep making the assumption that Romo can hold up physically for years? I dont care how long the contract is for because so far it doesnt look like it. Jerry wanted JFB for more than selling gear.

Yap this last injury should have put the FO on alert. Romo is at greater risk.
Do what GB did it paid dividends for them.