Fox: Bears won't renew Rivera

[ZeroClub]

I agree with this, but the question I have is...is Rivera the one responsible for all of those turnovers? Or was it something else..

I'll be safe and take Stewart. IMO.

I don't know how much Rivera preaches and coaches turnovers. Given how much the Bears obviously emphasize them, though, I'm guessing that Rivera must have some role in it.

I don't have my hopes pinned on him or any other particular candidate, however. I know next to nothing about any of these guys, so I'll just trust in the current braintrust at Valley Ranch.

 

[ZeroClub]

Would you rather have Zimmer back or have Rivera?

Me, I would absoutely love to have Rivera join the Cowboys...! I think he could bring some intensity and also relate to the younger players because they will respect him as a player...

Also, it would not be a bad move by JJ just because of the Mexican Nationality behind his name, because we already know that there are lots of Mexican fans that absoutely love the Boyz just because of the proximity of the team to Mexico. Now, I know this is a stupid paragraph...but, it would be a factor in the marketing of the team for JJ.

It never hurts to try different things with younger coaches...regardless of what some percieve about him not being named a head coach as of yet...

If Rivera is willing to come to Dallas...come on down!

My guess is that the Zimmer we saw over the past few seasons was a Zimmer who was doing what Parcells told him to do.

Even so, though, the team is probably better served with some new faces - new coaches with new schemes who the players can believe in and get excited about.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

From what I have read, Rivera was not fond of the cover 2 and was forced to run that defense under Lovie Smith. Now that the last of the head coaching opportunities has dried up, I'd love to see a Rivera here in Dallas as the defensive coordinator.

Marty goes 14-2 and is fired and replaced by an underachiever.
Rivera's defense goes to the Super Bowl and is not renewed. And is replaced by a no-name.
Crazy world.

 

[The Realist]

Thank you for the civil response.

Yeah he doesn't have those guys here. Just Carpenter, Ware, Burnett, Williams, Spears, Hatcher, Canty, Newman, Henry and Ferguson.

I guess that is absolutely nothing to work with.

What red flags? The Steelers felt they couldn't wait so they moved on. The Cowboys and Chargers both felt they were too close to roll the dice. Prior to this year teams felt he needed more time. Those are hardly red flags.

Oh, the Hoyte example....don't waste my time reaching like that.

What red flags.........

1) 9 interviews, no job.

2) Bears decided they don't want him back.

3) No experience in 3-4.

4) He'd be more of an intern in Dallas than a coach.

 

[Hostile]

What red flags.........

1) 9 interviews, no job.

Big deal.

2) Bears decided they don't want him back.

Right, they are tight fisted with money and have to pay Lovie. They don't want to pay him too.

3) No experience in 3-4.

Very over rated "concern."

4) He'd be more of an intern in Dallas than a coach.

That is your opinion, not a fact.

 

[dwmyers]

Rivera has never coached a 3-4 before in his life..

Almost everyone has coached a 3 man prevent defense, though, which in many incarnations -is- or -can be- a 3-4 front.

David.

 

[Avery]

In running my team at work and looking at potential prospects, I'll look at people's numbers behind their work outside of the 45 minutes they'll spend in an interview vs. the 40 hours they'll put in during the week.

I've had people with great interviews and average numbers get passed over for people with poor interviews and sensational numbers? Why?

At the end of the day, the people who do the best at work are the ones who aren't pulling a dog and pony show. I don't want people to talk about the great things they'll do, I want people who have already DONE the great things that they speak of.

Rivera has run the best defensive unit in the NFL the past few seasons. That much is a fact. Don't tell me the guy doesn't have it, he does.

Put it to you this way: the guy who gets it done constantly through college is the prospect I want, not some fly by wonder at the combine who runs incredibly fast and throws up ungodly numbers (paging Mike Mamula).

Rivera can get the job done. Ellis didn't have any experience in the 3-4; he seemed to do pretty well with that. Rivera can be the same way.

 

[apickmans]

Rivera is now LBers coach for the chargers......per espn

 

[The Realist]

Rivera is now LBers coach for the chargers......per espn

Brutal.........

Interning for the other LB coach Pagano.

It's interesting that a DC that was out of football last year got the DC gig over Rivera.

 

[Hostile]

Brutal.........

Interning for the other LB coach Pagano.

It's interesting that a DC that was out of football last year got the DC gig over Rivera.

It's interesting that a 3-4 team hired him.

 

[theogt]

It's interesting that a 3-4 team hired him.

It's not atypical for 3-4 teams to hire LB coaches that don't have experience in the 3-4.

 

[slick325]

It's interesting that a 3-4 team hired him.

Not really. As I stated in my previous post in this thread I figured he'd end up on the staff of a friend. I'm sure his ties to Ron Turner got him in the door with Norv.

 

[The Realist]

It's interesting that a 3-4 team hired him.

Yes, in a zero decision making capacity.

Or correction.......he'll have as much say as as Vinson Brown/Dat Nguyen.

What that means is zero say in personnel and play calling.

Sit, watch, learn and pray you can one day elevate your rep to HC/DC material again.

 

[Hostile]

It's not atypical for 3-4 teams to hire LB coaches that don't have experience in the 3-4.

Tell him that. I tried.

 

[theogt]

Yes, in a zero decision making capacity.

Or correction.......he'll have as much say as as Vinson Brown/Dat Nguyen.

What that means is zero say in personnel and play calling.

Sit, watch, learn and pray you can one day elevate your rep to HC/DC material again.

The decision to hire Cottrell was made before the news regarding Rivera was released. They can't just fire Cottrell at that point (if they even wanted to).

 

[dbair1967]

It's interesting that a 3-4 team hired him.

he got hired by Turner, who wanted him had he got the job here...and Rivera supposedly was going to hire him as OC had he got the Green Bay job last yr

translation- Rivera would be unemployed today if not for the Norv connection...he just took a huge demotion, and right now isnt even the sole LB coach on that team

something is missing with him...there's a reason he is getting passed over time and again for HC jobs and a good reason why the Bears decided to let him walk (its more than money)

David

 

[dbair1967]

The decision to hire Cottrell was made before the news regarding Rivera was released. They can't just fire Cottrell at that point (if they even wanted to).

I doubt very seriously that Cottrell signed anything before the Rivera news came out...further, it probably wasnt some huge secret he wouldnt be back...Rivera probably knew well before we did

David

 

[The Realist]

The decision to hire Cottrell was made before the news regarding Rivera was released. They can't just fire Cottrell at that point (if they even wanted to).

The decision to hire Cottrell as DC was already in motion before Schotty got fired.

Schotty wanted hire his brother and AJ Smith told him to shove it.

 

[big dog cowboy]

he got hired by Turner, who wanted him had he got the job here...and Rivera supposedly was going to hire him as OC had he got the Green Bay job last yr

translation- Rivera would be unemployed today if not for the Norv connection...he just took a huge demotion, and right now isnt even the sole LB coach on that team

:money: time!

 

[dbair1967]

It's not atypical for 3-4 teams to hire LB coaches that don't have experience in the 3-4.

yeah but it is atypical for the DC of a super bowl team to 1) be told he isnt wanted and 2) take a co-LB coach job after he's been a DC for 3yrs and got all kinds of HC interviews

you guys can do the spin doctor jobs all you want, but apparently Rivera isnt quite the defensive guru some of you want to believe he is

David