dupree89
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wowOh boy is he......there was one poster who said he was better than Brady. They love Romo.
wowOh boy is he......there was one poster who said he was better than Brady. They love Romo.
He is most likely making it up or twisting someone's words.
I'm confident you can change that most likely to definitely. He's trolling this thread hard.He is most likely making it up or twisting someone's words.
It matters to those the dead leave behind who know that the death didn't have to happen because someone chose to take a stupid risk they knew was wrong but did it anyway (that's why there are laws for that). Unless you believe Steve and say it's 50-50. Are you also signing on to that nonsense? Wouldn't surprise me but just checking.does it really matter to the dead if they are killed by a careless driver or a drunk driver?
Yup.
I don’t think it was alcohol.
He had a very small window to drink.
Leave the golf course at 5PM.
Gas up and smash a tall one at the GoMart. (Who does this???)
Gets pulled over at 6:18PM
pure speculation on my part:
He may have taken some pain meds after getting in his car.
He has a bad back.
It had to be killing him. Plus he has a long drive.
https://www.cdc.gov/impaired-driving/facts/index.htmlIt matters to those the dead leave behind who know that the death didn't have to happen because someone chose to take a stupid risk they knew was wrong but did it anyway (that's why there are laws for that). Unless you believe Steve and say it's 50-50. Are you also signing on to that nonsense? Wouldn't surprise me but just checking.
so its worse if a drunken driver kills you then a careless driver?It matters to those the dead leave behind who know that the death didn't have to happen because someone chose to take a stupid risk they knew was wrong but did it anyway (that's why there are laws for that). Unless you believe Steve and say it's 50-50. Are you also signing on to that nonsense? Wouldn't surprise me but just checking.
Maybe as dumb as you not including drug-involved fatalities. It's not as simple a data cutout due to testing/reporting irregularities among states (e.g., NC doesn't test at all), drug types tested for, and lack of standardized impairment levels, but in 2021 over 10,000 deaths resulted from drivers who tested positive for a drug that could cause impairment and the national number has been rising for some time.
Yes. Someone can be careless for something that had nothing to do with them like being distracted by others in the vehicle. And it's an in the moment occurrence. A drunk or impaired driver had way more time to make a better decision to not even get behind the wheel in the first place, and possibly against the advice of others since their impairment can be observed in some cases.so its worse if a drunken driver kills you then a careless driver?
I think there’s a different stigma between the two for sure - and careless is more subjective than drunk obviouslyso its worse if a drunken driver kills you then a careless driver?
As usual you try to sneak away from your claim which is that Drunken driving was much higher then it is. And even some of the drugs are also involved with alcohol in the same incidents.Maybe as dumb as you not including drug-involved fatalities. It's not as simple a data cutout due to testing/reporting irregularities among states (e.g., NC doesn't test at all), drug types tested for, and lack of standardized impairment levels, but in 2021 over 10,000 deaths resulted from drivers who tested positive for a drug that could cause impairment and the national number has been rising for some time.
But if you were to consider those numbers, the 32% of fatalities you quote for 2022 becomes 56% with drugs added in. And this is without mandated standards which are expected to improve.
https://safetrec.berkeley.edu/2023-safetrec-traffic-safety-facts-drug-involved-driving
true but you are just as dead, right?I think there’s a different stigma between the two for sure - and careless is more subjective than drunk obviously
So stupidity as regards drinking is different then stupidity as regards driving.Yes. Someone can be careless for something that had nothing to do with them like being distracted by others in the vehicle. And it's an in the moment occurrence. A drunk or impaired driver had way more time to make a better decision to not even get behind the wheel in the first place, and possibly against the advice of others since their impairment can be observed in some cases.
True. State laws vary and I have no clue about that states laws. Some states can get a warrant for a blood test, others don’t. Some have varying degrees of impaired . In a few days we will know.Some states have levels. This oui means they wanted to bust him for something....but dui didn't qualify.
Meanwhile...."fans" claim he was "hammered"....with zero evidence.
I hate people.
Interesting take…Maybe he smoked a joint after the round of golf.
He has back problems. He could be using Marijuana for pain. If he smelled of weed and had bloodshot eyes. That would get him the OWI.
There’s quite a few possibilities of what it could be.
Here's my foray into this topic when I started:As usual you try to sneak away from your claim which is that Drunken driving was much higher then it is. And even some of the drugs are also involved with alcohol in the same incidents.
Bottom line is that you were wrong and now you are trying to deny.
and you use BERKLEY rather then the CDC which I used
once again cherry picking
Perfectly sober drivers kill someone every day in this country too.
Steve responded to THIS and said it was 50-50. And then I did mention "drinking and driving" as it's the most common form of impairment (at least partially because it's the most widely tested for and standardized).Well, when you put it that way let's all impair ourselves and drive. Same difference, right?
You got arrogant and careless and now are whining about itHere's my foray into this topic when I started:
Steve responded to THIS and said it was 50-50. And then I did mention "drinking and driving" as it's the most common form of impairment (at least partially because it's the most widely tested for and standardized).
And can you not read a table? The link I gave you showed California AND national stats as reported to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration through its Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) where law enforcement and investigators sends data to keep stats on traffic deaths statewide and nationwide. In fact, THIS IS THE SAME DATA SET USED TO QUOTE THE CDC STATS YOU PRESENTED HERE if you had bothered to follow the links to the source data.
What was that you said about stupid again? You are a walking Freudian projection machine, bro.
This is the part where you slink away and hope no one notices.
SpaceMan...never would be me my friend. I dont eat hamburgers.A lot of hypocrisy in this thread. Any one of you tip back 2-3 beers on a Sunday afternoon while watching football and forgot hamburger buns at the store, are driving to the store to pick them up.
