Franchise Tag primer

Killerinstinct said:
OK. Interesting. I wonder if any teams have contacted him and we just don't know about it.

A team could have told him they have no problem paying him Mack money but don't want to give up the picks.

Find a way to have them release you and you will get what you want.
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No need for any of that. Just wait until the off season and give him Mack money.

Little Jr said:
I never seen anything saying it was non or not, I just assumed it was the exclusive tag. I assumed that because there has been nothing about him talking to any other team's. Even if they don't want to give up 2 1sts I figure a team would at least call to see what we would be willing to accept. And any news aniut the cowboys gets leaked.


Edit: if I'm reading it right, He has to sign it before he can negotiate with other team's ?
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You didn't hear about him talking to any other teams because no team is willing to part with two first round picks for him. It's no more complicated than that. But I'm not completely sure. Always assume non exclusive unless the player is worth it. Say Aaron Rodgers. Or someone you can't afford to trade. But no team is going to offer Tank a contract with that 2 first rounders as compensation. They can try and work a trade with the Cowboys is Tank signs, but his surgery is in the way right now.
 
Flamma said:
No need for any of that. Just wait until the off season and give him Mack money.



You didn't hear about him talking to any other teams because no team is willing to part with two first round picks for him. It's no more complicated than that. But I'm not completely sure. Always assume non exclusive unless the player is worth it. Say Aaron Rodgers. Or someone you can't afford to trade. But no team is going to offer Tank a contract with that 2 first rounders as compensation. They can try and work a trade with the Cowboys is Tank signs, but his surgery is in the way right now.
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The 2 1sts isn't mandatory, it's only if they sign him to an offer sheet that Dallas then refuses. They can negotiate with him, come to an agreement, then go to the Cowboys and talk trade terms. If they can't come to trade terms, then no deal is made and he continues being Dallas's issue.
 
xwalker said:
In 2018 they gave him the non-exclusive franchise tag. For DEs that was: $17,143,000

For 2019 they have to give him 120% of the previous tag. That is: $20,571,600.00

With either type of tag, the team can trade the player if the player agrees to a contract with the other team.

With the non-exclusive tag they have the option to match any offers. If the team declines to match offers to a non-exclusive tagged player, then they receive two 1st round picks.
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I thought 2018 was exclusive too. Lol I can't find anything on it but if you and Nightman say it I believe it
 
Flamma said:
No need for any of that. Just wait until the off season and give him Mack money.



You didn't hear about him talking to any other teams because no team is willing to part with two first round picks for him. It's no more complicated than that. But I'm not completely sure. Always assume non exclusive unless the player is worth it. Say Aaron Rodgers. Or someone you can't afford to trade. But no team is going to offer Tank a contract with that 2 first rounders as compensation. They can try and work a trade with the Cowboys is Tank signs, but his surgery is in the way right now.
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Yeah that's the thing, I figured someone would've called just to see if they would come off the 2 1sts and usually stuuf like that gets leaked. I agree , no team is going to pay him Mack money and give up 2 1sts.
 
Nightman said:
Teams can designate one player a Franchise Player per year..... there are 3 variations

Exclusive FT- player cannot negotiate with anyone ..... calculated at Top contracts that year
Non-exclusive FT- player can negotiate with other teams..... calculated at Top 5 average over 5 years .... if traded the compensation is two 1st rounds picks when the team declines to match offer sheet.....DLaw got the Non-exclusive
Transition Tag- team can match any offer but there is no trade compensation...... avg of Top 10 contracts

Teams must designate a FT before the new League begins and they must have the cap space to do.... the cap space isn't released unless the player is traded or the FT is rescinded

The FT is fully guaranteed once signed but it can be rescinded before the player signs.... if it is rescinded the player becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent and can sign any deal with any team

If a tagged player is set free and signs with a new team before May 7th they would qualify for a Comp Pick

Tagged players can negotiate and be traded once they sign the FT.... their rights cannot be traded without a deal or without signing...... compensation can be worked out but the League requires two 1sts if no agreement is reached

Teams and players have until July 15th at 4pm to reach a long-term deal..... if they don't the player must play under the one year FT...... if traded the player can only sign a one year deal with the new team

The player can refuse to sign and holdout without any fines since they aren't under contract... they must report by Week 10 to play that season and accrue a year's service

If they do sign the FT and sit out they will lose a game check for each week of the holdout and can be fined for missing Training Camp

Players do have to pass a physical when they sign and must "maintain excellent physical shape and condition" or be subject to forfeiture thru arbitration

If a player is FT a second time their tag will be 120% of their previous tag
If a player is FT a third time their tag will be 144% of their previous tag or the FT amount for QBs, whichever is higher

A player is considered FT once it is applied.....it does not have to be signed......FTs by previous teams count as well

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DLawrence was tagged as a DE for the second time at 20.5m.... it is the non-exclusive and he can be traded....... he has not signed and has hinted he will not play under the FT again..... they have until July 15th to reach a new deal or he can only play for the 20.5m

If he sits out he won't get paid but DAL would have to FT him for the third time in 2020..... that essentially assures he will be a FA since that number will be around 29.5m

He could report Week 10 and get paid the pro-rated amount for the rest of the season and playoffs.... if fails to report by then he will miss the entire season

Some think he can wait until TC ends or Sept and sign the FT and then get surgery for his torn Labrum... this would allow him to get paid and still miss most of the season..... this is a risky strategy and can be challenged by the team and would still mean he would have to come back at some point midway through the season

DLaw may be waiting for JClowney and FClark to sign and they may be waiting for him...... July 15th is the big deadline and that is when Dez signed at the last minute
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For this reason, the front office needs to be operating on another deadline rather than July 15th.

His surgery will likely take 3 months to recover (from what I'm hearing). That means he won't be able to go until middle of October, missing at the very least 6 weeks of the regular season.

The front office needs to let DLawrence and his agent know they have until April 24th (the day before the draft) to take their best offer. If he still hasn't had the surgery by then, I'd say the front office should rescind the tag on this date and let him walk. His value will be at it's lowest point possible since he still hasn't had his surgery and would not provide an immediate upgrade to any team in training camp needing DE help due to his health. Just can't see a foreign team offering the contract he wants knowing Lawrence will miss nearly half of his first season.
 
J12B said:
For this reason, the front office needs to be operating on another deadline rather than July 15th.

His surgery will likely take 3 months to recover (from what I'm hearing). That means he won't be able to go until middle of October, missing at the very least 6 weeks of the regular season.

The front office needs to let DLawrence and his agent know they have until April 24th (the day before the draft) to take their best offer. If he still hasn't had the surgery by then, I'd say the front office should rescind the tag on this date and let him walk. His value will be at it's lowest point possible since he still hasn't had his surgery and would not provide an immediate upgrade to any team in training camp needing DE help due to his health. Just can't see a foreign team offering the contract he wants knowing Lawrence will miss nearly half of his first season.
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It could become a cat-and-mouse game of who signs/rescinds 1st.
 
ksg811 said:
The 2 1sts isn't mandatory, it's only if they sign him to an offer sheet that Dallas then refuses. They can negotiate with him, come to an agreement, then go to the Cowboys and talk trade terms. If they can't come to trade terms, then no deal is made and he continues being Dallas's issue.
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Yes I know. I didn't intend to sound like I did not. I was solely responding to the exclusive/non exclusive reasoning. Working around the 2 first rounders requires an agreement by the Cowboys. Even in that case I don't think any team is going to come calling for what Tank is asking. I think they all will be willing to wait it out until next off season. Or maybe offer us a Quinn type trade because anything is better than nothing. If Tank pulls a Bell then we get nothing.
 
Little Jr said:
Yeah that's the thing, I figured someone would've called just to see if they would come off the 2 1sts and usually stuuf like that gets leaked. I agree , no team is going to pay him Mack money and give up 2 1sts.
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But there's the rub. What team is willing to pay him Mack money? What team will pay him that money and give up any picks? We're at an impasse and we're not losing any picks.
 
J12B said:
For this reason, the front office needs to be operating on another deadline rather than July 15th.

His surgery will likely take 3 months to recover (from what I'm hearing). That means he won't be able to go until middle of October, missing at the very least 6 weeks of the regular season.

The front office needs to let DLawrence and his agent know they have until April 24th (the day before the draft) to take their best offer. If he still hasn't had the surgery by then, I'd say the front office should rescind the tag on this date and let him walk. His value will be at it's lowest point possible since he still hasn't had his surgery and would not provide an immediate upgrade to any team in training camp needing DE help due to his health. Just can't see a foreign team offering the contract he wants knowing Lawrence will miss nearly half of his first season.
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I still think DAL has some protections from a sign and then surgery move

He has to pass a physical to sign any contract and a torn labrum seems like a deal breaker if they want it to be

They could possibly put him on the NFI-Non Football Injury list since the injury didn't happen this League Year and they wouldn't have to pay while he healed
 
Little Jr said:
How do the determine the exclusive tags? Learn something new everyday. Just when I thought I knew everything. Lol
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The exclusive tag is the avg of the top 5 contracts this year at each position

It can actually be lower than the non-exclusive sometimes and it becomes whichever is higher

The non exclusive is the avg of the top 5 contracts over the last 5 years adjusted to the cap
 
J12B said:
For this reason, the front office needs to be operating on another deadline rather than July 15th.

His surgery will likely take 3 months to recover (from what I'm hearing). That means he won't be able to go until middle of October, missing at the very least 6 weeks of the regular season.

The front office needs to let DLawrence and his agent know they have until April 24th (the day before the draft) to take their best offer. If he still hasn't had the surgery by then, I'd say the front office should rescind the tag on this date and let him walk. His value will be at it's lowest point possible since he still hasn't had his surgery and would not provide an immediate upgrade to any team in training camp needing DE help due to his health. Just can't see a foreign team offering the contract he wants knowing Lawrence will miss nearly half of his first season.
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Once a player signs the franchise tag, the one-year salary becomes fully guaranteed. But there’s a little-known exception.

Under Article 10, Section 2(c) of the CBA, the contract can be terminated if the player fails “to establish or maintain his excellent physical condition.”

Any effort to do so would result in a review of the situation by a neutral physician and, eventually and inevitably, arbitration. Still, the franchise tender technically isn’t fully and completely guaranteed.
 
Nightman said:
Once a player signs the franchise tag, the one-year salary becomes fully guaranteed. But there’s a little-known exception.

Under Article 10, Section 2(c) of the CBA, the contract can be terminated if the player fails “to establish or maintain his excellent physical condition.”

Any effort to do so would result in a review of the situation by a neutral physician and, eventually and inevitably, arbitration. Still, the franchise tender technically isn’t fully and completely guaranteed.
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That is good to know.

Thank you for posting.
 
If the Cowboys take the tag off of Tank. How much would it be to bring in Suh and Ansah? Would they be cheaper then Lawrence?
 
If he sits out he won't get paid but DAL would have to FT him for the third time in 2020..... that essentially assures he will be a FA since that number will be around 29.5m

That is important..... even if he doesn't sign the FT or DAL rescinds the tag it will count as the second time he has been tagged..... they would have to tag him for the 3rd time next year to keep him

So even if he holds out all year like LBell he will be gone next year......even DAL isn't desperate enough to tag him at 29.5m
 
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