Free Agency Day 1

[Vinnie2u]

Yeah I'm serious.Chances are it will retire but if he wants to play and is playing well I see nothing wrong with another 1 year contract. Witten won't be asking for much. The point I'm trying to make is that the team has to plan for the future. The Madden guys don't get that.

He should be doing Wrangler and Copper fit commercials by then.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Thornton's not a low end signing. He's a legitimate quality young player. To be low end you have to be a JAG who can fill a role or an aging player who can plug a hole in the short term.

That's how I see it, anyway. We'll probably wrap up FA with low end signings. I just wouldn't classify that one as such.

I see him as a low end player, I like the signing and player for how he will be used potentially but his entire salary is less than Vernon's signing bonus, that is fairly cheap to me.

Sure, he is more than a Mincey or such like, To that extent I agree but he is not a top tier free agent that will ruin our cap and is relatively cheap on a four year deal.

I suppose low end has degree's in my view, he is no camp body but he also is no high end signing.

He definitely upgrades the the 1 tech and at 6 million guaranteed, that is not cap problematic and a true bargain.

Hopefully this puts an end to Hayden......

 

[cml750]

Our FA plan is one of a team with a good coach and a young up and coming superstar QB. Truth is we do not have either. We have a terrible coach and a superstar QB who is old and injury plagued. We should be signing FA's to win now! That is not to say that is a good long term policy but given the reality of our situation it is only common sense.

 

[Rogerthat12]

It's not a presumption. It's demonstrable by your categories. Every single one has been deprecating.

I am arguing along the paradigm you present. I agree that it is oversimplified tripe but it didn't originate with me. I just find when trying to reason with someone to speak in their terms. You said dumpster diving. That booze said it before you is immaterial.

I've already said at least a spectrum of outcomes would be better. We still only have "low end" and "dumpster" as categories. You admit that they are the same thing.

Incorrect, logical fallacy based on current actions of the team not on a full body of work.

I offered no such paradigm actually that any paradigm should be balanced and flexibile to include top tier and every tier of free agents, avoiding the either/or fallacy you are wrongly assuming.

For example, if a given team overspends on free agents, given person criticizes current overspending because that is primarily what is being done, that does not mean the person thinks there is never a time high end free agents should be signed nor that every move is problematic with said team at all times.

Again, you have committed the logical fallacy of presumption, reverse accident in particular.

Incorrect, you are arguing from ignorance, another logical fallacy and making presumptions based on limited data to draw a general conclusion that does not correspond to reality with regard to me specifically.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Incorrect, logical fallacy based on current actions of the team not on a full body of work.

I offerec no patadigm actually that the paradigm should be balanced and flexibile to include top tier and every tier of free agents, avoiding the either/or fallacy you are wrongly assuming.

For example, if a given team overspends on free agents, given person criticizes current overspending because that is primarily what is being done, that does not mean the person thinks there is never a time high end free agents should be signed nor that every move is problematic with said time at all times.

Again, you have committed the logical fallacy of presumption, reverse accident in particular.

Incorrect, you are arguing from ignorance, another logical fallacy and making presumptions based on limited data to draw a general conclusion that does not corresping to reality with regard to me specifically.

All that and you don't argue the demonstration of your categories. I'm using your words not my own presumption. Your argument does not apply.

You have categorized everything the Cowboys have done as "low end" and "dumpster diving" categorically and said they were the same thing. It is what it is.

 

[Rogerthat12]

But who should they have signed? A name. You're the one whining about dumpster diving so who?

I am not whining, you are because someone is critical of the unilateral dumpster approach this far.

There is Ayers and Jones, any DE that can rush the QB.

 

[Rogerthat12]

All that and you don't argue the demonstration of your categories. I'm using your words not my own presumption. Your argument does not apply.

You have categorized everything the Cowboys have done as "low end" and "dumpster diving" categorically and said they were the same thing. It is what it is.

Because low end and dumpster diving are in the same category to me with degree's but both are cheap, are you claiming we have made a high end signing?

You have committed two logical fallacies and apparently can not or will not comprehend what a relatively cheap player looks like, tell me the high end signing we have made that proves me wrong?

You have made a categorical mistake in committing the logical fallacy of presumption based on a limited sample of data with corresponding faulty inductive reasoning and now deduction.

 

[Rockport]

I am not whining, you are because someone is critical of the unilateral dumpster approach this far.

There is Ayers and Jones, any DE that can rush the QB.

Jones who?

 

[Rogerthat12]

Jones who?

Do some research?

 

[Rockport]

Do some research?

Well there's no pass rushing DE in the top 99 FA's this year.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000637939/article/2016-free-agency-top-99-available-players

 

[Rogerthat12]

Well there's no pass rushing DE in the top 99 FA's this year.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000637939/article/2016-free-agency-top-99-available-players

Wow, you need some rest.

 

[cml750]

Wow, you need some rest.

He/she needs to lay off the amber beer. It is obviously having adverse effects.

 

[coult44]

Your the one embarrassing yourself. Those were the worst signings ever. Do the research if you don't believe me.

I'm not saying they weren't bad. But they weren't day 1 - big time additions. They were bottom of the barrell , over paying has been guys who were out if their prime. It was JJ showing his ignorance.

 

[ConstantReboot]

You sound like someone looking for someone or something to blame. I don't think like that.

Lately our front office brought in a corner and defensive tackle from the Eagles and Matt Moore. We shall see if any sign with us.

Not blaming anyone. Just disappointed at our FO for not doing more. Now is not the time to sit on our butts and hope for a miracle. Now is the time to make a run to the playoffs again and fill in the gaps thru FA with one or two quality players.