Free expected to miss 2 weeks

[Stash]

I personally think we still need a RT for the future, Free is average and Parnell does enough to do the job but both of them have flaws.

I agree.

And I'd love to draft one in 2015 if the opportunity should present itself.

Is our offensive line good? Sure is!

But could it still be improved upon? Absolutely!

 

[jrumann59]

you do remember that he only has a little over 3 years playing O line (not much game time remember) EVER. He NEVER played O line in HS or College. Did not start until he got with us. DE, TE, never O line until we got him. Compare that to Free who played it in HS and College and all his time in the Pros.

I understand that but then one has to question his aptitude. He is an athlete but because of his inexperience he should seasoned by what his 10th season. Its great he is an athlete but sometimes you need football players and I do not think he is a high level starter he has a low career trajectory.

 

[Idgit]

Bryan Broaddus @BryanBroaddus · 10h 10 hours ago
“@Teves58: @BryanBroaddus Parnell against Seattle seemed to hold his own. Why was he bad against phi?” He had three bad plays.

Broaddus is saying that he had 3 bad plays and this didn't reference run or pass.

It's crazy how narratives just get accepted and run with. Sometimes, they're well-founded, but they don't really have to be. Once consensus reaches a tipping point--for whatever reason--perception crystalizes and we're off to the races.

And not just on 'can he play' questions. Look at how Marvin Harrison was perceived for the longest time. Then he's out shooting people with handguns a year after retirement. Or look at the whole 'Dez is TO reincarnated' notion that's taken forever to deconstruct, and for almost no reason at all. It's crazy.

 

[CCBoy]

It's crazy how narratives just get accepted and run with. Sometimes, they're well-founded, but they don't really have to be. Once consensus reaches a tipping point--for whatever reason--perception crystalizes and we're off to the races.

And not just on 'can he play' questions. Look at how Marvin Harrison was perceived for the longest time. Then he's out shooting people with handguns a year after retirement. Or look at the whole 'Dez is TO reincarnated' notion that's taken forever to deconstruct, and for almost no reason at all. It's crazy.

I guess that some prefer to argue or even observe from a vantage of a negative stance. That takes the turmoil out of having to carry a conscience or even sense of wrong with a stance taken.

 

[xwalker]

I would like to award @Idgit and jobberone.

It's crazy how narratives just get accepted and run with. Sometimes, they're well-founded, but they don't really have to be. Once consensus reaches a tipping point--for whatever reason--perception crystalizes and we're off to the races.

And not just on 'can he play' questions. Look at how Marvin Harrison was perceived for the longest time. Then he's out shooting people with handguns a year after retirement. Or look at the whole 'Dez is TO reincarnated' notion that's taken forever to deconstruct, and for almost no reason at all. It's crazy.

That's the main reason I stick with the Parnell issue. It fits my criteria for how people are heavily influenced by the media or lack of media support for a player. Also, there is an obvious perception by fans/media that if a player has been on team past a certain about of time without becoming a starter, then that player must not be good. It's funny because if a player has been on another teams roster and is cut, then they have all-world potential in the minds of many.

Many posters have very strong opinions that are based on next to nothing. It could be 1 bad play, 1 media comment or any number of things other than actually analyzing the actual plays and players in detail.

Some media people tried really hard to make a story on RoMc in training camp when he missed practice and many fans were buying their narrative.

 

[xwalker]

I've like Free for several years but I've always said he was upgradeable. I will say from what I've seen this year in review he is playing some of his best ball. I think it will be tough to replace him and I'm not sure when they will do so. As much as I like Parnell's talent I'm not seeing that completely translate to the field consistently. So.....

Free will be able money and how they feel about Parnell and Weems. They are not going to dismiss Free without an adequate replacement discounting the money issue. And the draft comes after that decision. Rock and hard place. My guess is Free has some small amount of leverage; just not a lot.

People think I hate Free, but if Parnell was not an option, I would definitely want Free to return. They really need to keep 1 of the 2. They need to use draft picks on defense and not on RTs.

 

[bevo11]

Free has played well...people just under value him because of his story. Give the guy credit, he actually took a pay cut and improved after doing so because he knew he had to. I have no problems with Doug Free.

 

[burmafrd]

I understand that but then one has to question his aptitude. He is an athlete but because of his inexperience he should seasoned by what his 10th season. Its great he is an athlete but sometimes you need football players and I do not think he is a high level starter he has a low career trajectory.

how do you know anything about his aptitude? Or frankly anything else?

 

[burmafrd]

Bryan Broaddus @BryanBroaddus · 10h 10 hours ago
“@Teves58: @BryanBroaddus Parnell against Seattle seemed to hold his own. Why was he bad against phi?” He had three bad plays.

Broaddus is saying that he had 3 bad plays and this didn't reference run or pass.

3 plays out of how many?

 

[Idgit]

I would like to award @Idgit and jobber one...

Wait...did I win something? What did I win?

 

[TrailBlazer]

Bryan Broaddus @BryanBroaddus · 10h 10 hours ago
“@Teves58: @BryanBroaddus Parnell against Seattle seemed to hold his own. Why was he bad against phi?” He had three bad plays.

Broaddus is saying that he had 3 bad plays and this didn't reference run or pass.

Did you listen to him on talkin cowboys yesterday? Broaddus was not impressed. Said he had 3 whiffs and got pushed back in the run game. Parnell is a good backup swing tackle. Backup being the operative word.

 

[xwalker]

I would like to award @Idgit and .

That got cut off, but the award is for Troll Fighting. You guys @Idgit and @jobberone are doing a great job of fighting the trolls.

 

[Bullflop]

After the game, Free said he'd be fine. I'll go with that until it's obvious he's out. Usually the player knows himself better than the writers, the GM or almost anyone else with the possible exception of the team physician.

 

[xwalker]

Did you listen to him on talkin cowboys yesterday? Broaddus was not impressed. Said he had 3 whiffs and got pushed back in the run game. Parnell is a good backup swing tackle. Backup being the operative word.

1. If you've following Broaddus for long, you should know that he is often wrong.

2. Which specific plays do you think were problematic for Parnell in the Eagles game?

 

[CCBoy]

People think I hate Free, but if Parnell was not an option, I would definitely want Free to return. They really need to keep 1 of the 2. They need to use draft picks on defense and not on RTs.

I'll be more specific here: a top notched speed rusher at defensive end

 

[xwalker]

I understand that but then one has to question his aptitude. He is an athlete but because of his inexperience he should seasoned by what his 10th season. Its great he is an athlete but sometimes you need football players and I do not think he is a high level starter he has a low career trajectory.

It's not about number of season, it's about number of start or snaps played. You can't become a polished player just practicing. You have to have a certain amount of game experience.

One reason that Zack Martin was good immediately is that he played 52 games of big time college football. Parnell has 4 starts ever at any level of football. He as good as a player can get with that limited amount of game experience.

 

[xwalker]

Wait...did I win something? What did I win?

Yes, sorry I didn't finish that post. I'm giving you the Troll Fighter award for your efforts to fight the trolls.

 

[xwalker]

3 plays out of how many?

He played the entire 2nd half. If a backup OLineman had 3 bad plays in a half that's probably a compliment.

 

[TrailBlazer]

It's crazy how narratives just get accepted and run with. Sometimes, they're well-founded, but they don't really have to be. Once consensus reaches a tipping point--for whatever reason--perception crystalizes and we're off to the races.

And not just on 'can he play' questions. Look at how Marvin Harrison was perceived for the longest time. Then he's out shooting people with handguns a year after retirement. Or look at the whole 'Dez is TO reincarnated' notion that's taken forever to deconstruct, and for almost no reason at all. It's crazy.

It's funny how broaddus tweets can be misconstrued and twisted to fit ones agenda. X emphasized "three" in that tweet as if it means that parnell was not bad. If you listen to what broaddus says, not just his 4 word response to a tweet, you will realize that broaddus was not impressed by Parnell at all. Said he whiffed 3 times and did not hold his own in the run game. Was very critical of him. Everybody twists the narrative to what they want to hear, even you. Even me.

 

[TrailBlazer]

1. If you've following Broaddus for long, you should know that he is often wrong.

2. Which specific plays do you think were problematic for Parnell in the Eagles game?

I'm sure he is often wrong. But you brought up that tweet from broaddus to support your point so I'm just letting you know what broaddus really thought of him.

Idk the specific downs. Honestly I started drinking when dallas blew the lead and was not focused on what parnell was doing other than a few times I saw him get pushed back into Murray's lane. I'm going off what broaddus has said, mostly. I know he watches the film and was a former scout. I value that. I don't always agree with his assessments, but I give him the benefit of the doubt here.