Free expected to miss 2 weeks

[jrumann59]

how do you know anything about his aptitude? Or frankly anything else?

Expecting a guy to be "decent" pro starter without much of anything in regards to organized football is dumb. Is he an athlete yes you can see that. If he had the aptitude he would shown more by now. The NFL will give athletes shots because they have natural tools but athleticism does not necessarily give you the mental part that is also needed. Its is like the NBA if you are 7 footer teams will give you tons of chances until they realize you are what you are.

 

[jobberone]

People think I hate Free, but if Parnell was not an option, I would definitely want Free to return. They really need to keep 1 of the 2. They need to use draft picks on defense and not on RTs.

I think Free returns depending on money.

 

[jobberone]

Wait...did I win something? What did I win?

A hat to cover that stupid looking yellow head of yours.

 

[xwalker]

I'm sure he is often wrong. But you brought up that tweet from broaddus to support your point so I'm just letting you know what broaddus really thought of him.

Idk the specific downs. Honestly I started drinking when dallas blew the lead and was not focused on what parnell was doing other than a few times I saw him get pushed back into Murray's lane. I'm going off what broaddus has said, mostly.

I was not really using it to support my point. Somebody said Broaddus said he was bad and then posted the tweet that Broaddus said it was 3 plays. That didn't make sense. If he only had 3 negative plays that would be good for a backup OL and not bad for a starter. OLinemen can't play a perfect game against a good defense.

There was a play where Collinsworth claimed that Parnell got pushed back into Murray, but I detailed that play in another thread. Parnell was where he should have been because the play was intended to go inside. When Murray tried to bounce outside that's when he ran into the back of Parnell. Parnell might not have played it perfectly, but by design he was to get the DE to go upfield which puts in the way of Murray bouncing outside.

I really don't understand how you have an opinion on the subject one way or the other if you didn't really watch it in real-time and have not reviewed it.

 

[xwalker]

I think Free returns depending on money.

I really have no idea what they will do. I'm certain that either Free or Parnell will return. I'm going to be really irritated if Parnell goes to Washington and starts to dominate after a few starts.

 

[jobberone]

I really have no idea what they will do. I'm certain that either Free or Parnell will return. I'm going to be really irritated if Parnell goes to Washington and starts to dominate after a few starts.

Yeah, that will suck. I'd like to keep them both unless they think Weems can play. I don't want to spend resources on a RT.

 

[TrailBlazer]

I was not really using it to support my point. Somebody said Broaddus said he was bad and then posted the tweet that Broaddus said it was 3 plays. That didn't make sense. If he only had 3 negative plays that would be good for a backup OL and not bad for a starter. OLinemen can't play a perfect game against a good defense.

There was a play where Collinsworth claimed that Parnell got pushed back into Murray, but I detailed that play in another thread. Parnell was where he should have been because the play was intended to go inside. When Murray tried to bounce outside that's when he ran into the back of Parnell. Parnell might not have played it perfectly, but by design he was to get the DE to go upfield which puts in the way of Murray bouncing outside.

I really don't understand how you have an opinion on the subject one way or the other if you didn't really watch it in real-time and have not reviewed it.

I watched enough in that game to have the opinion that he wasn't very good in the run game. Which broaddus seemed to agree with. And we have seen him in quite a few games over the years, enough to know what he is capable of. I see a good backup but below average starter.

 

[cowboys1981]

Yes, sorry I didn't finish that post. I'm giving you the Troll Fighter award for your efforts to fight the trolls.

And I didn't even get nominated
I'm firing my agent

 

[Idgit]

Yes, sorry I didn't finish that post. I'm giving you the Troll Fighter award for your efforts to fight the trolls.

I've got a +3 magic Post Reply button, and I'm not afraid to use it.

Gotta stick up for the posters willing to spend time and generate content and put themselves out there. I'd trade a thousand drive-by comments about youtube scouting for one solid post about why Anthony Hitchens is actually not any good.

A hat to cover that stupid looking yellow head of yours.

I'm gonna assume this is a reference to my avatar, and not a shot at my bald spot. Because it's Christmas, and I'm a generous and forgiving person.

 

[JJHLH1]

If Martin is out that will be huge. Hope that's not the case.

 

[jobberone]

I'm gonna assume this is a reference to my avatar, and not a shot at my bald spot. Because it's Christmas, and I'm a generous and forgiving person.

Your whole head is bald. And yellow. But thanks for forgiving me.

 

[xwalker]

And I didn't even get nominated
I'm firing my agent

Keep working, I could be giving out another one at any time.

 

[xwalker]

I watched enough in that game to have the opinion that he wasn't very good in the run game. Which broaddus seemed to agree with. And we have seen him in quite a few games over the years, enough to know what he is capable of. I see a good backup but below average starter.

You can't analyze an OLineman withoutt some amount of reviewing the game.

If you think Broaddus spent any significant time reviewing Parnell, then you don't understand Broaddus.

 

[Kaiser]

Expecting a guy to be "decent" pro starter without much of anything in regards to organized football is dumb. Is he an athlete yes you can see that. If he had the aptitude he would shown more by now. The NFL will give athletes shots because they have natural tools but athleticism does not necessarily give you the mental part that is also needed. Its is like the NBA if you are 7 footer teams will give you tons of chances until they realize you are what you are.

The analogy I like to think of is Nelson Cruz in baseball. He never played the game until he was 17, never saw the majors until he was 24 and failed in three separate shots in the majors before he finally put it all together at age 27. You learn by doing and you don't step into the highest level of a sport by studying film.

There are plenty of examples of guys like Nelson Cruz that were given a shot repeatedly because of their physical talent and failed. But like Nelson Cruz, it cost almost nothing to acquire him and the payoff could be huge. Its way too early for anyone to write him off.

 

[xwalker]

Yeah, that will suck. I'd like to keep them both unless they think Weems can play. I don't want to spend resources on a RT.

Parnell would be crazy to return if they re-sign Free. Parnell can start for many teams. He would be a significant upgrade at RT for Washington.

 

[xwalker]

The analogy I like to think of is Nelson Cruz in baseball. He never played the game until he was 17, never saw the majors until he was 24 and failed in three separate shots in the majors before he finally put it all together at age 27. You learn by doing and you don't step into the highest level of a sport by studying film.

There are plenty of examples of guys like Nelson Cruz that were given a shot repeatedly because of their physical talent and failed. But like Nelson Cruz, it cost almost nothing to acquire him and the payoff could be huge. Its way too early for anyone to write him off.

Hey Kaiser, I'm curious to know your thoughts in my Parnell thread and specifically on the play that is discussed later in that thread.

 

[Kaiser]

Hey Kaiser, I'm curious to know your thoughts in my Parnell thread and specifically on the play that is discussed later in that thread.

I agree with you and Noryb. Parnell did basically what was expected and it wasn't a "fail" by any means.

 

[burmafrd]

Expecting a guy to be "decent" pro starter without much of anything in regards to organized football is dumb. Is he an athlete yes you can see that. If he had the aptitude he would shown more by now. The NFL will give athletes shots because they have natural tools but athleticism does not necessarily give you the mental part that is also needed. Its is like the NBA if you are 7 footer teams will give you tons of chances until they realize you are what you are.

Look up Cornell Green

 

[justbob]

Your whole head is bald. And yellow. But thanks for forgiving me.

A stocking cap would help...

 

[Bluefin]

Eagles front 7 is very good. But parnell has plenty of games under his belt. We should have a pretty good idea of what we have in him. That's a backup swing tackle. It was evident why free is the starter. We will see if I'm wrong but that's what I think he is. He is bigger than free but parnell got pushed back in the run game.

My #1 complaint. He isn't a rookie. He has had playing time.

Doug Free possesses an unbelievable edge in playing time and experience over Jermey Parnell.

When Free was starting in high school and college, Parnell quit football to focus on basketball (which led to a scholarship to Ole Miss).

Free started 49 games in Dallas before Parnell got his first start on Turkey day in 2012 against the Skins.

Due to Free's regression that year, the two started a time share at RT in the month of December. Both played well in the four games, but Free's play was dramatically better than it had been.

Based on their comfort level with Parnell, the Cowboys told Free he would have to take a $7M pay cut in order to remain in 2013 and he would have to compete to keep the starting job. Parnell fought injuries that off-season and in camp, so the competition never materialized because Free played well. There was no reason to mess with things.

Last summer, some speculated Parnell's roster spot could be in jeopardy given his back-up status, salary and the presence of Darrion Weems.

Weems was getting off-season reps at LT while Parnell worked at RT.

Parnell had to take over as the reserve LT on the fly in training camp when Weems injured his shoulder in a pass blocking drill with Tyron Smith.

Parnell finished the pre-season as the highest graded OL on the team by Pro Football Focus despite practicing at RT during the off-season.

When Free was injured during the Seattle game, Parnell came in and played strong.

Parnell played well in his 3 starts (+2.7, +2.5, -0.5) while Free was on the mend, allowing only 6 QB hurries, 0 QB hits and 0 sacks.

When looking forward, what might Parnell become if given starting reps at RT all off-season, training camp and pre-season?

Would that allow him to find consistency? Refine his hand punch? Improve his leverage?

I believe Parnell has a lot of upside and playing real snaps will best develop it. Jason Garrett said something along this line when Free was sidelined.

Most starting OL on ranked college teams will not make it in the NFL.

Parnell is doing it after solely playing basketball in high school and college (he was a reserve DL after that).