Free/Parnell and Cowboys Predictable on Offense

Kevinicus

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Never...NEVER...roll out. It never works with this team. At least not with the lame play they run with it.
 

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Never...NEVER...roll out. It never works with this team. At least not with the lame play they run with it.

I had to think about what you meant, I think you mean designed naked bootlegs? I agree - our zone stretch does not give any respect to the backside defender and it actually hurt the running game against Philly. Romo would be killed if he did a naked bootleg.

EDIT: I realize I just said this without seeing tape. If the coaches see that backside defender keying in on the run, expect to see the naked bootleg soon to take advantage lol. But I think Romo's back hinders this concept too.
 

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i mentioned this in the game thread, good to have some proof. their dline is good, not that good. the way they were coming down hill in the 2nd half you could tell they were being tipped on run plays. whether it be scheme/personnel, something was giving it away. i wish we could send this to the team, although with some self-scouting they should figure it out themselves.

The reason the eagles are very good against the run is because the are a run blitzing team. They dont usually blitz on passing downs but on obvious running downs they bring the blitz up the middle forcing teams to run outside. and a RB will almost always go to the strong side in this situations and thats where Barwin comes into play. He's done this spot for the past two years and is very good doing that. I hate it when fans think a nfl team can just run what they want because its designed a certain way. Fans forget there is a team on the other side of the ball trying to stop what ur doing. No secret NFCE teams know eachother very well and know tendencies. Just like Philly stopped dallas run game Dallas stopped phillys rungame because they knew that shouldve been priority one because sanchez isnt going to beat you with his arm,.
 

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i mentioned this in the game thread, good to have some proof. their dline is good, not that good. the way they were coming down hill in the 2nd half you could tell they were being tipped on run plays. whether it be scheme/personnel, something was giving it away. i wish we could send this to the team, although with some self-scouting they should figure it out themselves.

Yeah some personnel stuff they do makes it a dead giveaway we're running. When I see Harris in there I know we're running.

I'm impressed with Murray's season, especially when teams make every effort to try and stop him.
 

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Never...NEVER...roll out. It never works with this team. At least not with the lame play they run with it.

I has worked to some occasions. They don't practice it enough to be part of the offense. Thus it looks awkward.
 

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The Cowboys do have tendencies, strong tendencies to run the same plays over and over with minimal variation. I have been saying this for awhile now.........they are predictable to a fault and it will cost them sooner than later.

Example: If you see Harris in the offense, bet the house that he is getting the ball. The same applies to Dunbar but not near the 99.9% that Harris gets it.

Shotgun, it will be a pass 90% of the time. Romo under center on 1st or 2nd down(less than 6 yards), will probably be a run, most likely to the right side.

It is all fine and dandy until teams stop the run on a consistent basis. I know, win your match-ups and the rest will play out. But, if we had a more dynamic and innovative passing offense to go along with the running game, there is no reason we can't have a top 1 or 2 offense.

We need more screens, slants, seams, motion, maybe even an option route on occasion. How about rolling Romo out some, he is dynamic when he has to leave the pocket.

Since Romo isn't even a threat to run, that is one less worry other teams have to deal with and allows them to concentrate on stopping the run.

The offense is ok now but it can be quite a bit better IMO. Once injuries mount, lose a couple of lineman, etc........we will need a better passing game to make up for it.

I agree 1000%
 

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Put another way @dexternjack, if a team is good enough to beat the cowboys Run game with only 7 AND stop the pass, no amount of scheming is going to help us that much. THat's one heck of a defense!
I started to add a column with number of defenders in the box on each play but it's difficult to exactly define the box. A player might be one step out of what I would call the box but would immediately come in to defend the run. In general thay had more than 7 in the box, especially in the 2nd half unless the Cowboys were in a spread formation.
 

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Thanks for the analysis. My biggest concern for this team in the playoffs is our predictability. It's why I think this team is succeeding despite the coaching and not because of it.
 

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They called a play action pass out of a heavy run formation once. I think Romo got sacked.

They also got a big 1st down play to Hanna on that play. Had Romo thrown it little better, it could have been a TD.
 

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Formation predictability and tells have been a stable of the Jason era. He doesn't care because Romo is supposed to see what is called then make an adjustment based on that. Thats all fine and good but Id like to see more scheming and making the defense react for once. The new found running game this year is covering this up more.
 

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I reviewed all of the runs to the right to see if there was an issue when Parnell played the 2nd half.

Blue indicates that Free/Parnell might have had an issue on this play.

The total yardage running right was 20 with Free in the game and 13 with Parnell in the game. They had the biggest run right with Parnell in the game (14 yards).

I'll make a 2nd post in this thread that shows something I noticed when doing this evaluation. The Cowboys have absolute predictability based on the shotgun formation. If Murray is in the game and it's shotgun, it is always a pass. If Romo is under Center it's not absolute, but it's very high probability of a run. The Eagles mix up run/pass in shotgun/under-center.

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The second play in the fourth quarter sees Parnell at the point of attack. The reason the backside pursuit caught up was because Parnell failed to get his hands on the DE and allowed penetration at the bloody poa. His guy did get in on the tackle. I've gotten to the point where I have hard time taking your play by play seriously.
 

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The Cowboys have absolute predictability based on the shotgun formation. If Murray is in the game and it's shotgun, it is always a pass. If Romo is under Center it's not absolute, but it's very high probability of a run.

ESPN has Murray with 31 runs out of the shotgun formation and Romo with 94 pass attempts from under center.
 

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Never...NEVER...roll out. It never works with this team. At least not with the lame play they run with it.

Yup - Never seems like Tony can throw the ball quick enough in that scenario, the play is already out of bounds at that point. Maybe it's an early series misdirection to set something else up, but the play has looks wasted recently.
 

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I kept wondering why we ran to the right on about 95% of our runs. We hardly even tried the left side. Seems like we were intent on slamming right into the teeth of their defense.
 

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The Cowboys have absolute predictability based on the shotgun formation. If Murray is in the game and it's shotgun, it is always a pass. If Romo is under Center it's not absolute, but it's very high probability of a run. The Eagles mix up run/pass in shotgun/under-center.

Red is a run from shotgun.
Blue is a pass from shotgun.
Green is a pass from under center.
Black is a run from under center.

The second play in the fourth quarter sees Parnell at the point of attack. The reason the backside pursuit caught up was because Parnell failed to get his hands on the DE and allowed penetration at the bloody poa. His guy did get in on the tackle. I've gotten to the point where I have hard time taking your play by play seriously.

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Looks like walker is correct about the play wanting to go inside of Parnell but because of the backside pursuit Murray tries to bounce outside. Problem is, like fuzzy said, Parnell is manhandled and play ends for no gain.
 

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Looks like walker is correct about the play wanting to go inside of Parnell but because of the backside pursuit Murray tries to bounce outside. Problem is, like fuzzy said, Parnell is manhandled and play ends for no gain.

Oh the play is off tackle but ideally Parnell is going to pin the DE inside. You can see Martin moving over to help combo if he does so. There was no place to go but inside because of Parnell's fail so that is where Murray went.
 

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Looks like walker is correct about the play wanting to go inside of Parnell but because of the backside pursuit Murray tries to bounce outside. Problem is, like fuzzy said, Parnell is manhandled and play ends for no gain.

It looks to me that DeMarco Murray might have been able to take the run outside of Jermey Parnell but Zack Martin chips Cedric Thornton and actually helps the defender get to the outside.

It wasn't a good block by Parnell and Martin made things even worse.
 
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