Free/Parnell and Cowboys Predictable on Offense

[xwalker]

1) You have no proof of the play call. You mistake me not buy your unprovable stories with a refusal to 'see.' I've even demonstrated how that works both ways.
2) It's a zone play and their is no 'hole' the RB takes no matter what. Look up what an off tackle run is and get back to me.
3) By watching Parnells hands you can see him miss his block. That is not a matter of play call as the DE knocks his hands away and pushes him backwards, sets the edge, and pinches the line..
4) He ended up on the ground which is a cardinal sin.

There is probably no point replying to you because I know that you have an agenda against me and Parnell. I thought you woulbe able to overcome agenda when you have to deal with other peoples agandas like LatinMind and Wilcox.

1. Martin help blocks on Parnell's man. They do this when they are trying to accomplish a reach block for an inside run. I think you probably know this is true but just ant to argue because I've disagreed with you in the past.

2. It's obvious that Murray was looking to cut inside. I'm sure I can find similar plays with Free where he let's the DE go upfield as much as possible. The previous play was the same formation and Parnell basically was making the same type block and it was a 14 yard gain.

It's too bad that you're blinded by agenda because I know you do review the games and contibute to this site.

 

[Noryb]

Yes, this play goes beyond any bias I have towards Parnell or any bias Fuzzy has against him or me. It is a very interesting play for discussion. I would have the same opinion if it was Free making this block.

I don't see how it is not obvious that Murray intended to cut inside but #50 and #91 caused him to try to bounce outside.

Martin's help block on Parnell's man is more evidence that it was intended to go inside.

I very interested in some unbiased opinions like yours.

I don't know whether it's a zone play or an off-tackle play but with an assist from Martin, Parnell gains inside leverage and drives 72 well outside the numbers (4-5yds). 72 is clearly not setting the edge. Murray would have cut cleanly off of Parnell's block but he's trying to avoid the backside pursuit from 91, which caused him to run into Parnell knocking him off his block. Martin, who was clearly limping on this play, was late with the assist to Parnell and unable to reach 50 after assisting Parnell. That's my 2 cents!

Also, I don't know much about cardinal sins on running plays but not blocking one of the DTs and the MLB has to rank pretty high.

 

[xwalker]

I don't know whether it's a zone play or an off-tackle play but with an assist from Martin, Parnell gains inside leverage and drives 72 well outside the numbers (4-5yds). 72 is clearly not setting the edge. Murray would have cut cleanly off of Parnell's block but he's trying to avoid the backside pursuit from 91, which caused him to run into Parnell knocking him off his block. Martin, who was clearly limping on this play, was late with the assist to Parnell and unable to reach 50 after assisting Parnell. That's my 2 cents!

Also, I don't know much about cardinal sins on running plays but not blocking one of the DTs and the MLB has to rank pretty high.

Good point about #72. He is clearly fighting to stay to the inside and defend the inside run.

 

[Noryb]

There is probably no point replying to you because I know that you have an agenda against me and Parnell. I thought you woulbe able to overcome agenda when you have to deal with other peoples agandas like LatinMind and Wilcox.

1. Martin help blocks on Parnell's man. They do this when they are trying to accomplish a reach block for an inside run. I think you probably know this is true but just ant to argue because I've disagreed with you in the past.

2. It's obvious that Murray was looking to cut inside. I'm sure I can find similar plays with Free where he let's the DE go upfield as much as possible. The previous play was the same formation and Parnell basically was making the same type block and it was a 14 yard gain.

It's too bad that you're blinded by agenda because I know you do review the games and contibute to this site.

You and Fuzzy are two of the best posters on here when it comes to real football talk and I appreciate both of your opinions. Although, I don't always agree, I find myself in agreement most of the times. I surely hope Parnell doesn't drive a wedge between the two of you.

 

[TwentyOne]

The Cowboys have absolute predictability based on the shotgun formation. If Murray is in the game and it's shotgun, it is always a pass. If Romo is under Center it's not absolute, but it's very high probability of a run.

This is commonly known.
A quick look at Bob Sturms blog could have saved you alot of work.

 

[Idgit]

..I surely hope Parnell doesn't drive a wedge between the two of you.

There's a first time for everything, I suppose.

 

[xwalker]

You and Fuzzy are two of the best posters on here when it comes to real football talk and I appreciate both of your opinions. Although, I don't always agree, I find myself in agreement most of the times. I surely hope Parnell doesn't drive a wedge between the two of you.

It would be good to find mutual ground. There are other posters rarely agree with me and versa, but I think we still respect each other. @jterrell is a good example.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If the play call was to the B gap then why did Martin block down? Parnell is supposed to hook him inside and have Martin double team to turn him inside. If the play had indeed been called to the inside then why didn't Martin take on the ILB? Why don't we blame Martin at this point?

Watch Parnells hands get knocked away and him get ripped two yards back. It is what it is.

 

[xwalker]

If the play call was to the B gap then why did Martin block down? Parnell is supposed to hook him inside and have Martin double team to turn him inside. If the play had indeed been called to the inside then why didn't Martin take on the ILB? Why don't we blame Martin at this point?

Watch Parnells hands get knocked away and him get ripped two yards back. It is what it is.

Here is a play from the 2nd quarter for comparison. Free/Martin are positioned almost identically to Parnell/Martin in the 4th quarter play. Martin is making the same block in both.

If Murray bounced outside in the 1st play he is just as likely to run into the back of Free and he was in the 2nd play when he ran into the back of Parnell.

The difference is that #91 is preventing Murray from cutting inside and Fred does not get as good of a block in the Parnell play as he does in the Free play.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Here is a play from the 2nd quarter for comparison. Free/Martin are positioned almost identically to Parnell/Martin in the 4th quarter play. Martin is making the same block in both.

If Murray bounced outside in the 1st play he is just as likely to run into the back of Free and he was in the 2nd play when he ran into the back of Parnell.

The difference is that #91 is preventing Murray from cutting inside and Fred does not get as good of a block in the Parnell play as he does in the Free play.

I cannot tell what what is without presnap alignment. What I can tell is that Free has remained infront of his block and hasn't gotten turned inside such that Martin can combo. I see your showing the part where Parnells whiffs his punch completely but I cannot be certain that you snap shotted the same time elapsed.

If the first one starts on the far hash and the second one starts on the near hash, then I think you should seriously revisit your take.

 

[Plankton]

Here is a play from the 2nd quarter for comparison. Free/Martin are positioned almost identically to Parnell/Martin in the 4th quarter play. Martin is making the same block in both.

If Murray bounced outside in the 1st play he is just as likely to run into the back of Free and he was in the 2nd play when he ran into the back of Parnell.

The difference is that #91 is preventing Murray from cutting inside and Fred does not get as good of a block in the Parnell play as he does in the Free play.

The Eagles also have 9 men in the box on the second clip, and 8 in the first one.

 

[xwalker]

The Eagles also have 9 men in the box on the second clip, and 8 in the first one.

Yes, good observation.

 

[Noryb]

Is this not the same play?

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Without backside pursuit Murray is able to cut off of Parnell's block, while Martin reaches the LB after the combo block, and pick up about 4yds. He would have gained more but Cox beat Leary, like he did most of the night.