Frustrations lead to resentment and now anger

[jobberone]

We run a hybrid vertical offense like most teams in the NFL since the 70s to answer a post in another frustration thread.

Our offense has scored well as of late and has never been terrible under Garrett. You want 25+ PPG. We've scored 369-467 pts per season under Garrett through 2014. We've scored 160 so far this year and given up 204. That's the reason we are 2-6. The major reasons for that are called Romo and Dez and minor reasons are Hardy, Gregory and all.

We all anticipated a 10-16th ranked defense and a top ten maybe top five offense. We didn't get it although without looking it up the defense has played well. Fading in the 4th quarter is due to (last night) the Philly offense's hurry up system. The rest is partly due to a failure of the offense and the problems of lack of depth and talent in the secondary. This is a hole we've had for awhile and will take more time to cure. So on track to give up 400 points this year doesn't explain the play of the defense entirely given the state of the offense.

All the other problems are magnified because of the problems above. They always need addressing but are not normally regime change worthy.

The only coach I don't have warm fuzzy feelings for is the STs coach. The others haven't changed. And the argument that Romo carried Garrett's water is true. But not in a negative light. All coaches look less when they don't have an elite QB. An elite QB carries the team. Been that way with infrequent exceptions for a long time.

There is not a magic bullet such as firing Garrett which will fix this nightmare. Drafting more talent especially on defense and in particular the secondary is necessary. Keeping up with waning talent, loss of talent, and improving where possible on both sides is equally necessary.

Everyone is frustrated and some have progressed to resentment. Others are outright angry. I can't blame them and they are entitled to their feelings. I'm frustrated.

This season isn't over but each loss carries us further down the road to no playoffs and the window is closing fast. Can we still go? With losses by others and a big time winning streak yeah. It's unlikely with two teams ahead of us but I won't give up hope. It is unrealistic to anticipate an unlikely event though.

If the negative happens then I will do what I've done for 51 years; anticipate a SB next season. What else is there to do? Raging against the dark may help short term depression but doesn't affect anything of import.

Just my 2 cts and in no way meant as an apologetic thread or to change people's minds. Just the facts, Mam.

 

[LandryFan]

We run a hybrid vertical offense like most teams in the NFL since the 70s to answer a post in another frustration thread.

Our offense has scored well as of late and has never been terrible under Garrett. You want 25+ PPG. We've scored 369-467 pts per season under Garrett through 2014. We've scored 160 so far this year and given up 204. That's the reason we are 2-6. The major reasons for that are called Romo and Dez and minor reasons are Hardy, Gregory and all.

We all anticipated a 10-16th ranked defense and a top ten maybe top five offense. We didn't get it although without looking it up the defense has played well. Fading in the 4th quarter is due to (last night) the Philly offense's hurry up system. The rest is partly due to a failure of the offense and the problems of lack of depth and talent in the secondary. This is a hole we've had for awhile and will take more time to cure. So on track to give up 400 points this year doesn't explain the play of the defense entirely given the state of the offense.

All the other problems are magnified because of the problems above. They always need addressing but are not normally regime change worthy.

The only coach I don't have warm fuzzy feelings for is the STs coach. The others haven't changed. And the argument that Romo carried Garrett's water is true. But not in a negative light. All coaches look less when they don't have an elite QB. An elite QB carries the team. Been that way with infrequent exceptions for a long time.

There is not a magic bullet such as firing Garrett which will fix this nightmare. Drafting more talent especially on defense and in particular the secondary is necessary. Keeping up with waning talent, loss of talent, and improving where possible on both sides is equally necessary.

Everyone is frustrated and some have progressed to resentment. Others are outright angry. I can't blame them and they are entitled to their feelings. I'm frustrated.

This season isn't over but each loss carries us further down the road to no playoffs and the window is closing fast. Can we still go? With losses by others and a big time winning streak yeah. It's unlikely with two teams ahead of us but I won't give up hope. It is unrealistic to anticipate an unlikely event though.

If the negative happens then I will do what I've done for 51 years; anticipate a SB next season. What else is there to do? Raging against the dark may help short term depression but doesn't affect anything of import.

Just my 2 cts and in no way meant as an apologetic thread or to change people's minds. Just the facts, Mam.

I see you and I are close to the same age and years of fandom. We also share a similar outlook should the season go south, as it appears will happen. What else can you do, really? I no longer get so emotionally involved like I used to. Maybe that's because we've been in a near 20 draught and I've just become numb to the pain...I don't know. Oh well, let's have a great draft and an even greater 2016!

 

[Idgit]

Nice thread idea. Tough to wade in these waters right now.

Personally, the nature of the loss last night was really demoralizing. Because the defense had been playing well since the NE game. We'd gotten our defensive players back, and had every reasons to expect a huge game against a bad QB, a bad offense overall, and a weakened OL. And our offense, which had been bad this seasons for very obvious and explainable reasons, actually played well, overall, last night. The pick-6 was a dangerous throw and a horrible decision when the guy is covered that well, but, other than that, Cassel played way above whatever expectations it was reasonable to have for him. DMC ran hard, the OL blocked well against a very good DL. They finally played good.

And we still lost, this time because the defense crumbled. Sure, there were the back to back ST errors early that helped, but mostly it was just the fact that we couldn't stop a bad offense late when we needed somebody to make a play. And that's not going to be any different when Romo gets back, necessarily. It's pretty depressing. And I'm not even sure right now why it's happening. Our LBs ought to be the strength of this team and one of the better units in the league, but they're not very good. Jones has come in and played great in an increased role the last two weeks. It hasn't mattered. And, for the life of me, I don't understand why we can't seem to get takeaways this season. It's absolutely killing us.

 

[CATCH17]

I'm not even going to put last night on the coaches.

They didn't help or hurt for the most part and with Jason Garrett as your coach with his laughable scheme that is really all you can ask out of him.

 

[Vanilla2]

30000 posts of pure misery.

If romo hands the ball of in philly this place is much happier and guys like 17 have to be much more creative to take their shots.

If they play like they did last night I think this team beats Tampa. Fingers crossed

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

My resentment stems from knowing in my heart that this team, even without Romo, is better than 2-6. Every week, it seems they come up with a new way to lose a ballgame. Some of these reasons are not totally in their control, but most are. Players that make the same mistakes over and over and over (I'm looking at you Wilcox) just add fuel to the fire.

This offense shows the ability to move the ball and score points, and then kind of just shuts down and crawls in a shell.

This defense goes all out for a quarter and then spends the rest of the game on oxygen.

The coaching staff through either stubbornness or ineptitude just don't seem to make the critical in game adjustments that you see successful teams do on a consistent basis.

Two games, that's all, if they would have won two games out of the previous six, we'd be all feeling a little on edge, but still pretty confident that they can do something this season.

 

[CATCH17]

30000 posts of pure misery.

If romo hands the ball of in philly this place is much happier and guys like 17 have to be much more creative to take their shots.

If they play like they did last night I think this team beats Tampa. Fingers crossed

Nope.. I've said the Coach wasn't good even when we were doing good.

Garrett is a fart and Romo is Febreze.

 

[windward]

30000 posts of pure misery.

If romo hands the ball of in philly this place is much happier and guys like 17 have to be much more creative to take their shots.

If they play like they did last night I think this team beats Tampa. Fingers crossed

Absolutely agree.

 

[Sydla]

I concede that things could be worse if you didn't have Garrett.

But I also believe that there's little to no chance the Cowboys win a SB in the next 3-4 years with Garrett in charge either.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

firing JG will make me feel better about the entire season, actually. So yes, it fixes a lot lol.

 

[Alexander]

My resentment begins and ends with how this franchise cannot handle "success" in the last 20 years.

Nearly after every "successful" season, there has been an unwarranted sense of pompousness and arrogance from the franchise and its players that results in a resounding disappointment the following year. "Success" is fleeing and more of the outlier than anything else.

That starts with the decision makers and bleeds down and infests the culture.

 

[CATCH17]

I concede that things could be worse if you didn't have Garrett.

But I also believe that there's little to no chance the Cowboys win a SB in the next 3-4 years with Garrett in charge either.

Our roster is so good that I think we could win a Super Bowl with Garrett.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

The day Romo went down I looked at my wife and said seasons over. Romo makes every one better including the coaching staff.
I think he even helps give the defense more confidence. I was hopeful, more so after we signed Cassel but my original thoughts came true.
Luckily for myself I stopped getting mad for more than a few minutes years ago.

 

[Floatyworm]

Nice thread idea. Tough to wade in these waters right now.

Personally, the nature of the loss last night was really demoralizing. Because the defense had been playing well since the NE game. We'd gotten our defensive players back, and had every reasons to expect a huge game against a bad QB, a bad offense overall, and a weakened OL. And our offense, which had been bad this seasons for very obvious and explainable reasons, actually played well, overall, last night. The pick-6 was a dangerous throw and a horrible decision when the guy is covered that well, but, other than that, Cassel played way above whatever expectations it was reasonable to have for him. DMC ran hard, the OL blocked well against a very good DL. They finally played good.

And we still lost, this time because the defense crumbled. Sure, there were the back to back ST errors early that helped, but mostly it was just the fact that we couldn't stop a bad offense late when we needed somebody to make a play. And that's not going to be any different when Romo gets back, necessarily. It's pretty depressing. And I'm not even sure right now why it's happening. Our LBs ought to be the strength of this team and one of the better units in the league, but they're not very good. Jones has come in and played great in an increased role the last two weeks. It hasn't mattered. And, for the life of me, I don't understand why we can't seem to get takeaways this season. It's absolutely killing us.

When you play that single high safety D....it's like playing w/ 10 guys on defense. QBs love seeing that D.... all they got to do is look the FS off and throw backside. You got 1 on1 coverage...and your asking your CB to cover a guy that has almost half the field to work with. Good luck w/ that when your not getting to the QB.

 

[Sydla]

Our roster is so good that I think we could win a Super Bowl with Garrett.

Is my sarcasm meter busted?

 

[percyhoward]

Luckily for myself I stopped getting mad for more than a few minutes years ago.

I'm also lucky that way. Well said.

 

[RS12]

We all anticipated a 10-16th ranked defense and a top ten maybe top five offense. We didn't get it although without looking it up the defense has played well. Fading in the 4th quarter is due to (last night) the Philly offense's hurry up system. The rest is partly due to a failure of the offense and the problems of lack of depth and talent in the secondary. This is a hole we've had for awhile and will take more time to cure. So on track to give up 400 points this year doesn't explain the play of the defense entirely given the state of the offense.

Last night it was the defense, the week before offense. Team always finds a way to lose. That is the mark of a bad team. BTW the back seven on defense is bereft of difference makes except maybe Jones.

 

[AzorAhai]

The day Romo went down I looked at my wife and said seasons over. Romo makes every one better including the coaching staff.
I think he even helps give the defense more confidence. I was hopeful, more so after we signed Cassel but my original thoughts came true.
Luckily for myself I stopped getting mad for more than a few minutes years ago.

I said the same thing. Then I thought about it for a second and said "maybe he only dislocated his shoulder. Please be a dislocation."

 

[jobberone]

Nice thread idea. Tough to wade in these waters right now.

Personally, the nature of the loss last night was really demoralizing. Because the defense had been playing well since the NE game. We'd gotten our defensive players back, and had every reasons to expect a huge game against a bad QB, a bad offense overall, and a weakened OL. And our offense, which had been bad this seasons for very obvious and explainable reasons, actually played well, overall, last night. The pick-6 was a dangerous throw and a horrible decision when the guy is covered that well, but, other than that, Cassel played way above whatever expectations it was reasonable to have for him. DMC ran hard, the OL blocked well against a very good DL. They finally played good.

And we still lost, this time because the defense crumbled. Sure, there were the back to back ST errors early that helped, but mostly it was just the fact that we couldn't stop a bad offense late when we needed somebody to make a play. And that's not going to be any different when Romo gets back, necessarily. It's pretty depressing. And I'm not even sure right now why it's happening. Our LBs ought to be the strength of this team and one of the better units in the league, but they're not very good. Jones has come in and played great in an increased role the last two weeks. It hasn't mattered. And, for the life of me, I don't understand why we can't seem to get takeaways this season. It's absolutely killing us.

Some of the credit has to go to Philly. They are going to wear defenses down with that offense. And they just aren't as bad as some think. They just aren't as good as some predicted. It should have been a close game with Romo out. With him we win by 7-17 pts IMO. Also, I don't see people remarking on how south the defense went with the loss of Lee then Hitchens. We aren't good enough to absorb those kinds of losses. Our secondary is just not that good. We weren't going to have a premier defense this year and railing about it is not going to help the team although venting is not a bad idea.

I didn't address the coaching problem of being able to address those pick plays better nor the offenses fault for not playing them enough to execute them. Nor that the defense is not playing the slants well and part of that is on the LBs and Marinelli. The same applies to the offense for not running more slants particularly out of the spread. So there is blame to be found in the playcalling as well as the execution by the QBs/receivers. There's more.

We can dissect this as much as we can but the bottom line is we are losing and that is primarily because we lost Romo. Any and all can think beyond that all they want.

 

[jobberone]

My resentment stems from knowing in my heart that this team, even without Romo, is better than 2-6. Every week, it seems they come up with a new way to lose a ballgame. Some of these reasons are not totally in their control, but most are. Players that make the same mistakes over and over and over (I'm looking at you Wilcox) just add fuel to the fire.

This offense shows the ability to move the ball and score points, and then kind of just shuts down and crawls in a shell.

This defense goes all out for a quarter and then spends the rest of the game on oxygen.

The coaching staff through either stubbornness or ineptitude just don't seem to make the critical in game adjustments that you see successful teams do on a consistent basis.

Two games, that's all, if they would have won two games out of the previous six, we'd be all feeling a little on edge, but still pretty confident that they can do something this season.

The offense hasn't moved well until last night and that wasn't an offensive powerhouse. I can't say why we don't adjust more but maybe Cassel can't make all the throws accurately or reliably do so including the reads. Defensively we lost it for sure when Lee went down. They played well until then.