Full First Round Mock

[waving monkey]

Think Gurley will slide a little because of the injury. But the top teams in the NFL with the legit need of a RB like Indy they will jump imo, and brown i just went by the 3 top needs of teams and looked at their FAs. it just fell that way for me i guess. When i do a mock i have about 10 tabs open on a window. This tab, cbs ratings, draftscouts, nfl.com draft needs, thats a good one. a team FA page usually from spotrac or overthecap, and some mock sites i use to see where the general idea is. and draft breakdown. Its not something i just look at names and insert. Except Cobb lol i dont think i will insert another RB or RD3 pick that isnt Cobb unless Dallas resigns Murray or a bigger back in FA. Takes a couple to a few hrs just looking at guys videos on draft break. I watch alot of that. Kinda addicting.

And dont get it twisted, if Dallas would draft Gurley i would have a big smile on my face. He's going to be a special RB IMO

thanks LM,that's a great look at your method and approach.Actually kinda insightful.

 

[The Realist]

Well its clear you havent watched much of Thompson since ur comparing a MLB and a WILL production. I doubt you have watched much of Dawson either but rather just looking at stats and mocks.

When i do a mock i have about 10 tabs open on a window. This tab, cbs ratings, draftscouts, nfl.com draft needs, thats a good one. a team FA page usually from spotrac or overthecap, and some mock sites i use to see where the general idea is. and draft breakdown. Its not something i just look at names and insert. Except Cobb lol i dont think i will insert another RB or RD3 pick that isnt Cobb unless Dallas resigns Murray or a bigger back in FA. Takes a couple to a few hrs just looking at guys videos on draft break. I watch alot of that. Kinda addicting.

Hilarious. You just admitted to doing what you accuse me of doing, but somehow it's only valid if you do it.

 

[waving monkey]

look, lets enjoy the effort of all our contributors
it's what makes this board special

 

[The Realist]

look, lets enjoy the effort of all our contributors
it's what makes this board special

Not a problem. He took a pot shot. I pointed out the obvious hypocrisy .

 

[Macnalty]

I agree we should hope we sneak Cobb and Thompson OT into our draft, both outstanding and will make final 53.
Dawson has some baggage that needs to be sorted before he can be eligible for our draft board. Until that is addressed consider other options.
Gurley IMO opinion does not contribute this year in a significant way, Tony and Witten grow a year older with less than average tools in the backfield. Big picture get guys that produce these next couple of years before our contracts start catching up with us. Steven Jones did not all of a sudden become a cap genius along with Jerry becoming smart in football terms.

 

[waving monkey]

Not a problem. He took a pot shot. I pointed out the obvious hypocrisy .

we're all competitive
I appreciate your contributions also

 

[waving monkey]

I agree we should hope we sneak Cobb and Thompson OT into our draft, both outstanding and will make final 53.
Dawson has some baggage that needs to be sorted before he can be eligible for our draft board. Until that is addressed consider other options.
Gurley IMO opinion does not contribute this year in a significant way, Tony and Witten grow a year older with less than average tools in the backfield. Big picture get guys that produce these next couple of years before our contracts start catching up with us. Steven Jones did not all of a sudden become a cap genius along with Jerry becoming smart in football terms.

good thoughts

 

[Floatyworm]

You lost me when......4. Raiders - Kevin White WR West Virginia

Seriously???

 

[The Realist]

You lost me when......4. Raiders - Kevin White WR West Virginia

Seriously???

Good point. They would probably be more likely to take Coates or Dorsett there.

Seriosiy though, I believe Brugler has Cooper/White 5 & 6.

 

[tideh20heel]

Thanks LM I always appreciate your input and work. Let me ask you,
with Gurley still there and MBrown what was your reasoning.

Let me say about the philosophy of not drafting the RB or 1Tech DT in the first is understood.

I like Shaq but if Gurley and Brown are both there I would be crushed if we didn"t get one of them.

 

[Biggems]

Give me Malcom Brown, a dominate and disruptive force in the middle of our D, over Shaq every day of the week. We need to solidify the trenches first. Besides, I feel we have a great trio of LBs in Hitchens, Lee, and McClain. We just need depth after them. I personally want to bring back Carter and Durant to team up with Wilber as our 2nd unit.

Grab Malcom Brown, a dominant pass rushing DE, a S, a CB, 2 OL, and a WR and we should be good to go.

 

[LatinMind]

Give me Malcom Brown, a dominate and disruptive force in the middle of our D, over Shaq every day of the week. We need to solidify the trenches first. Besides, I feel we have a great trio of LBs in Hitchens, Lee, and McClain. We just need depth after them. I personally want to bring back Carter and Durant to team up with Wilber as our 2nd unit.

Grab Malcom Brown, a dominant pass rushing DE, a S, a CB, 2 OL, and a WR and we should be good to go.

I dont think Dallas would consider a big 1tech type like brown or shelton or phillips in the first round. Well i dont think i know because stephen and jerry have said it before. I think they would go after Bennett if they didnt have McClain behind Crawford. I knew mocking shaq to dallas would draw alot of questions. The same way when i mocked Shazier and Martin last yr. I like the LBers Dallas has too. Its just something different to mock Shaq. I like him in this defense though. And if Dallas brought back Carter it for damn sure wouldnt be as a backup. He would be the starting SAM.

This draft is so full of tweeners at DE that i think the later round DEs will end up being better. They have the better NFL bodies.

Preston Smith
Cedric Reed
Are my two favorite DEs after the first round. This draft really lacks quality SDEs. Too many tweener types smaller then lawrence. Lawrence struggles are enough to deal with but to draft another tweener? Where are they going to play him? Because lawrence isnt going to play on the strong side. I laugh when people mention that.

 

[The Realist]

1. Bucaneers - Jameis Winston QB FSU
2. Titans - Leonard Williams DE USC
3. Jaguars - Randy Gregory DE Nebraska
4. Raiders - Kevin White WR West Virginia
5. Commanders - Dante Fowler OLB Florida
6. Jets Trade w/ CLE for 12 and 19
6. Browns - Marcus Mariota QB Oregon
7. Bears - Shane Ray OLB Missouri
8. Falcons - Alvin Dupree DE Kentucky
9. Giants - Andrus Peat OT Stanford
10. Rams - Amari Cooper WR Alabama
11. Vikings - Brandon Scherff OL Iowa
12. Jets - La'el Collins OT LSU
13. Saints - Vic Beasley OLB Clemson
14. Dolphins - Trae Waynes CB Michigan State
15. Niners - Ereck Flowers OT Miami
16. Texans - DeVante Parker WR Louisville
17. Chargers - TJ Clemmings OT Pitt
18. Cheifs - Quentin Rollins CB Miami OH
19. Jets - Benardrick McKinney LB Miss State
20. Eagles - Landon Collins S Alabama
21. Bengals - Arik Armstead DE Oregon
22. Steelers - PJ Williams CB FSU
23. Lions - Eddie Goldman DT FSU
24. Cardinals - Eric Kendricks LB UCLA
25. Panthers - Melvin Gordon RB Wisconsin
26. Ravens - Jaleel Strong WR Arizona State
27. Cowboys Trade w/ Indy for RD1 and RD4 pick(both 29th in each round)
27. Colts - Todd Gurley RB Georgia
28. Broncos - Max Williams TE Minnesota
29. Cowboys - Shaq Thompson LB Washington
Adding the BPA and a playmaker to the Lber core to go with Lee and McClain. Lee and Thomspon on the outside the defense will improve so much with the screens and short passes.
30. Packers - Malcolm Brown DT Texas
31. Seahawks - Dorial Green-Beckham WR Oklahoma
32. Patriots - Jordan Phillips DT Oklahoma

RD2 - Preston Smith DE Miss State
In this mock im picking Smith as what i would do if Dallas didnt sign a starting SDE. Smith is big and strong, One of the better run playing DE in this draft. Fight off blocks with his hands so well. Starting SDE

RD3 - David Cobb RB Minnesota
I dont think i will mock another RB. I love everything about this guys game.

RD4(DAL) - Cedric Reed DE Texas
Team him up on the right side with Lawrence. I think in time these two would be fighting for that starting spot. Reed was a monster in 2013, and played 2014 with a torn meniscus. He's had that fixed and has already gone thru rehab. Think he will be a steal for somebody. Hope its Dallas.

RD4(IND) - Josh Shaw DB USC
Like his play on the field. Very smart on the field presence. Learns from his mistakes. One of the guys they talk about being moved out to FS. I can see it, 1 guy who can fill two spots for Dallas in 2015. Would love to see him start out in them sub packages they would take Church out in.

RD5 - Tyrus Thompson OT Oklahoma
You cant have too many OTs especially with Weems who isnt a lock or having showed anything but potential. good to have options. and Thompson has played against some of the best college DEs while at Oklahoma.

RD7(BAL) - Tyeler Davison DT Fresno State
Probably a guy you stash on the PS while he builds up his strength and gets the fundamentals of Marinellis wants for the yr. Much like Bishop did this yr.

RD7(CHI) - Kyle Loomis P Portland State
Bring in a guy who could probably beat out Jones. And you get him cheap for 3 yrs.

In this scenario who did Dallas sign in FA at DT and DE from the outside?

Did they bring Melton or Spencer back? Assuming they didn't sign any SDE's since you drafted Smith and Reed which would be a ridiculous combination by the way. Reed would be a score in 4. I believe Preston is the first SEC DL to win SEC DL of the week 3 weeks in a row. I don't think he makes it to our pick in two. Too versatile in terms of scheme and position.

 

[LatinMind]

In this scenario who did Dallas sign in FA at DT and DE from the outside?

Did they bring Melton or Spencer back? Assuming they didn't sign any SDE's since you drafted Smith and Reed which would be a ridiculous combination by the way. Reed would be a score in 4. I believe Preston is the first SEC DL to win SEC DL of the week 3 weeks in a row. I don't think he makes it to our pick in two. Too versatile in terms of scheme and position.

Spencer with a vet min deal.

 

[Biggems]

I dont think Dallas would consider a big 1tech type like brown or shelton or phillips in the first round. Well i dont think i know because stephen and jerry have said it before. I think they would go after Bennett if they didnt have McClain behind Crawford. I knew mocking shaq to dallas would draw alot of questions. The same way when i mocked Shazier and Martin last yr. I like the LBers Dallas has too. Its just something different to mock Shaq. I like him in this defense though. And if Dallas brought back Carter it for damn sure wouldnt be as a backup. He would be the starting SAM.

This draft is so full of tweeners at DE that i think the later round DEs will end up being better. They have the better NFL bodies.

Preston Smith
Cedric Reed
Are my two favorite DEs after the first round. This draft really lacks quality SDEs. Too many tweener types smaller then lawrence. Lawrence struggles are enough to deal with but to draft another tweener? Where are they going to play him? Because lawrence isnt going to play on the strong side. I laugh when people mention that.

I liked Shazier a lot last year. I was not sold on Martin, as our past few ND guys soured me on the school.

I have nothing persay against Shaq...I just feel that Brown is the better prospect and will be better a better NFL DT than Shaq will be an NFL LB. I won't be angry if we take Shaq, unless we pass on Brown to do it. Brown is my #1 pet cat.

 

[The Realist]

I have no idear how to post the pic but Shaq is trying to grow on me. I grew up in Sactown.

http://www.nfl.com/cfb247

 

[LatinMind]

I liked Shazier a lot last year. I was not sold on Martin, as our past few ND guys soured me on the school.

I have nothing persay against Shaq...I just feel that Brown is the better prospect and will be better a better NFL DT than Shaq will be an NFL LB. I won't be angry if we take Shaq, unless we pass on Brown to do it. Brown is my #1 pet cat.

I like brown but Dallas wont pick him in round 1. Stephen and Jerry have both came out and said they will not draft a big body 1tech in the first round. I know alot of people dont believe in that kind of talk but they have shown that they wont pick them big DTs.

 

[The Realist]

I like brown but Dallas wont pick him in round 1. Stephen and Jerry have both came out and said they will not draft a big body 1tech in the first round. I know alot of people dont believe in that kind of talk but they have shown that they wont pick them big DTs.

I don't 100% agree with that even though they said it. If the right 1T is there, big or not, they would take him.

There was a time we would never take OL in one.

 

[LatinMind]

I don't 100% agree with that even though they said it. If the right 1T is there, big or not, they would take him.

There was a time we would never take OL in one.

I think it would take a special player for that. While brown i would say is starter material day one. I dont think he gives them enough reason to go out and take him at 27. Now if there was a wilfork there, yes. But Brown is not wilfork.

 

[Sydla]

A mid to late round risk I might take a chance on is Devaris Daniels from ND. Basically had to opt for the draft because he got caught cheating twice at ND. He was ND's best WR two years ago and has good size, decent, not great speed and could eventually be a #2 WR. He's Phillip Daniels' son.