Future at 3 Tech

[Galian Beast]

Crawford would have to have one hell of a year to warrant 7 mil per year. And that is a huge jump in salary for McClain as well

Hatcher got a 6.875 million dollar contract and was a much older player than Crawford. This will be his first year as a full time tackle, and he will have a lot of weapons around him. I expect he will have a great year. Will he get 7 million maybe, maybe not, but I think it will be in that range.

Bowen got 5.5 million and Chris Canty got the full 7 million.

As for McClain, McClain took a small deal to prove he is the player he thinks he is again. Bruce Carter got a 5.125 million per year deal after being pulled on and off the bench.

There is a market out there for these players.

 

[TrailBlazer]

Crawford was our best defensive player last year. Someone will pay him top dollar.

 

[xwalker]

Who don't you sign?

McClain?
Hardy?
Crawford?
Bryant??

We have about 27.7 million under a projected cap of 150 million for 2016.

Depending on Hardy's suspension will determine if we might have some better carry over or if we sign anyone else this year, but working with what we have....

McClain ~7-8 million
Hardy ~12-14 million
Crawford ~7 million
Bryant ~15 million

I think we're looking at at least 41 million dollars. Sure you can pack some of that into long term spending, but I think clearly we have a problem.

That doesn't even include signing any rookies or any of our role players let alone any other free agents next year. The only thing that maybe helps is cutting guys like Carr or having them take pay cuts.

They are not going to pay Rolando McClain 7M+ per season.

The 1st year cap hit would be at most half of the average annual amount. That would put Hardy at under 7M and Crawford under 3.5M.

Brandon Carr is likely gone in 2016. Without Carr and a restructure for Tyron, the cap space is 41M in 2016.

They could be moving on from Free which would save 4M, Brinkley which would save 2M and others.

I think 7M per is reasonable for Crawford. He is an excellent player and could be even better this year with better DEs. If they have a quality 1tech to draw some double-teams, Crawford would really blow up.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Hatcher got a 6.875 million dollar contract and was a much older player than Crawford. This will be his first year as a full time tackle, and he will have a lot of weapons around him. I expect he will have a great year. Will he get 7 million maybe, maybe not, but I think it will be in that range.

Bowen got 5.5 million and Chris Canty got the full 7 million.

As for McClain, McClain took a small deal to prove he is the player he thinks he is again. Bruce Carter got a 5.125 million per year deal after being pulled on and off the bench.

There is a market out there for these players.

Haven't the Commanders hit their quota of over-priced Cowboy DTs? LOL!

Anyway, Crawford is due to make $675K in base salary this year, I would extend him soon so that he gets a pay increase this season and then hopefully lower his base salary the next couple of seasons to about the $4-$5 mil range.

As for McClain, I think this season follows the path of last season... He'll play in 12-13 games. He'll look great in 2-3, he'll look OK in 5-6 and will disappear in the others. Other teams will continue to see him as someone slightly off-center and won't go anywhere near $7 mil per season.

 

[Galian Beast]

Haven't the Commanders hit their quota of over-priced Cowboy DTs? LOL!

Anyway, Crawford is due to make $675K in base salary this year, I would extend him soon so that he gets a pay increase this season and then hopefully lower his base salary the next couple of seasons to about the $4-$5 mil range.

As for McClain, I think this season follows the path of last season... He'll play in 12-13 games. He'll look great in 2-3, he'll look OK in 5-6 and will disappear in the others. Other teams will continue to see him as someone slightly off-center and won't go anywhere near $7 mil per season.

He's got to want to take that early extension, and players seem to have been betting on themselves a lot more lately. Can't remember the last time we bought a player cheap long term. Maybe Scandrick, but of course he held out.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

He's got to want to take that early extension, and players seem to have been betting on themselves a lot more lately. Can't remember the last time we bought a player cheap long term. Maybe Scandrick, but of course he held out.

Lee.

 

[Galian Beast]

Lee.

We didn't get Lee for cheap. We actually signed him to a pretty sizeable contract, he just had to earn it by staying healthy, which he hasn't been able to do.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

We didn't get Lee for cheap. We actually signed him to a pretty sizeable contract, he just had to earn it by staying healthy, which he hasn't been able to do.

Yeah, there's a difference between "cheap" and "reasonable".

I think Crawford can be extended via a reasonable contract.

 

[Galian Beast]

Yeah, there's a difference between "cheap" and "reasonable".

I think Crawford can be extended via a reasonable contract.

I think Crawford like Murray, will see this as his last opportunity for a major pay day.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I think Crawford like Murray, will see this as his last opportunity for a major pay day.

It's all conjecture at this point.

 

[Galian Beast]

It's all conjecture at this point.

I mean of course it is, but I can't envision him signing a team friendly contract if he has a breakout year this year. He has all the leverage in the world.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I mean of course it is, but I can't envision him signing a team friendly contract if he has a breakout year this year. He has all the leverage in the world.

If it happens, it happens. The Cowboys will get a comp pick for him in the worst case.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Hatcher got a 6.875 million dollar contract and was a much older player than Crawford. This will be his first year as a full time tackle, and he will have a lot of weapons around him. I expect he will have a great year. Will he get 7 million maybe, maybe not, but I think it will be in that range..

Hatcher may have been older, but he was a lot more accomplished as well. His 4.5 and 4.0 sacks the 2 years prior to his break out season were pretty good for a 3-4 DE. And if Crawford gets 11.5 sacks this year, then I would say he had a heck of a year and is likely to get 7mil+, but I doubt that happens.

 

[Galian Beast]

Hatcher may have been older, but he was a lot more accomplished as well. His 4.5 and 4.0 sacks the 2 years prior to his break out season were pretty good for a 3-4 DE. And if Crawford gets 11.5 sacks this year, then I would say he had a heck of a year and is likely to get 7mil+, but I doubt that happens.

Paea got 5.25 million per year... He topped out at 6 sacks in a year last year. I don't think Crawford needs double digits sacks to get to 7 million.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Paea got 5.25 million per year... He topped out at 6 sacks in a year last year. I don't think Crawford needs double digits sacks to get to 7 million.

whatever, I said he would need one heck of a year to get 7 mil, and I would consider 9 one heck of a year as well since only a small handful of DTs get over 8. And if Paea got 5.25 mil for getting 6, I'm curious what number you think would make him worth almost 2 million more than what Paea received?

and keep in mind Crawford would have to double his career high of 3 to reach that same level of production.

 

[Galian Beast]

whatever, I said he would need one heck of a year to get 7 mil, and I would consider 9 one heck of a year as well since only a small handful of DTs get over 8. And if Paea got 5.25 mil for getting 6, I'm curious what number you think would make him worth almost 2 million more than what Paea received?

and keep in mind Crawford would have to double his career high of 3 to reach that same level of production.

Well first I don't think it is all about sacks, I think if he is disruptive and has maybe 5-6 sacks, he will get his 7 million or in that range.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Well first I don't think it is all about sacks

I could quote several responses you gave when discussing Demarcus Ware;s production during December and January that suggest that you do think it is all about sacks, but there's no need to alter the subject of this thread.

I think if he is disruptive and has maybe 5-6 sacks, he will get his 7 million or in that range.

ok, since you used Paea as a reference, I assume you already know, without looking it up, how many pressures he had as well as QB hits? it would seem that you do, to suggest that if Crawford gets the same amount of sacks he would be worth almost 2 million more per year?

 

[Galian Beast]

I could quote several responses you gave when discussing Demarcus Ware;s production during December and January that suggest that you do think it is all about sacks, but there's no need to alter the subject of this thread.



ok, since you used Paea as a reference, I assume you already know, without looking it up, how many pressures he had as well as QB hits? it would seem that you do, to suggest that if Crawford gets the same amount of sacks he would be worth almost 2 million more per year?

It's always easier to just talk about sacks, especially because when you look up pressure stats they're all over the place. Pressures aren't an official stat, and it's pretty obvious why they aren't.

DeMarcus Ware didn't just disappear late when it came to sacks, but pressure as well. Which is why I initially wanted him gone despite the naysayers.

That being said, I've never seen Paea considered a pressure player, where as Crawford is certainly disruptive or at least he was last year.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

If Crawford gets 5-6 sacks and we pay him 7 million, we'd be over paying him by a lot.

 

[DCBoysfan]

Paea got 5.25 million per year... He topped out at 6 sacks in a year last year. I don't think Crawford needs double digits sacks to get to 7 million.

Plea contract is the model that both sides would more than likely use.