Future negotiations

[HungryLion]

No my argument is Reggie never admitted someone could get the best of him. He would work to get better instead.

What would Micah do? Go to the sidelines slack bodied looking like he was about to fall asleep before getting on the air for his podcast the next day.

Gotcha. So because Micah admitted somebody got the best of him. It means he wasn’t trying to get better? That’s the best you got?

Slack bodied? Micah played a ton of snaps and always played hard. Insinuating he didn’t play hard is insane. There is zero basis in reality to that argument.

 

[plasticman]

And you probably would have been the first one complaining about signing a player early who turned up injured.

I complain about anybody being injured regardless of their contract.

Once the season starts, contracts and salary caps mean absolutely nothing to me. They are out of my mind and all I am thinking about is winning games.

When players get injured, it decreases the probability of winning. I complain.

I'm not complaining about the player. I'm not blaming him for the injury. I blame bad luck. I blame the "football gods". His contract is just a reflection of his value to the team. It's not like it was my money.

 

[csirl]

The endorsements in the Dallas market is way over played.

There's a whole wide world out there. Successful players on successful teams are the ones who make money via endorsements.

I dont live in Dallas. Ive havent seen an advert with a Cowboys player in years. I frequently see adverts with successful players on so called small market teams.

 

[JayFord]

As long as Jerry is running things there will be a contract dispute every season

 

[CCBoy]

I think their agents will be ready for it, but the players who really want to stay in Dallas will likely push their agents to give in a little more so the drama situation with Parsons doesn't happen to them.

It will really come down to the players deciding early on if they are okay leaving the Cowboys.

Here a move for retention of Tyler Smith, and George Pickens now with the large cap would be a strong move in the 3 year window. Carter adds to this. This even allows to go and retain Bland. Then get a top dog defensive end next draft. That not to sustain what is solid now, but to improve and expand competition on the roster.

 

[CCBoy]

The endorsements in the Dallas market is way over played.

There's a whole wide world out there. Successful players on successful teams are the ones who make money via endorsements.

I dont live in Dallas. Ive havent seen an advert with a Cowboys player in years. I frequently see adverts with successful players on so called small market teams.

Check on the internet and look it up...false imput then other wise.

 

[Creeper]

So with the line in the sand drawn over parsons contract. Should we expect the same to happen with Tyler Smith and George Pickens if they choose to do so since both are represented by athletes first group and Mr Mulugheta?

I am pretty sure their agents, if it is Mulugheta or not, will force Jerry to negotiate with them and not the players directly, which was Jones' big issue with Micah. I also think Jerry is going to overpay them. He is taking a lot of heat for this Micah deal so he will try to make up for it by overpaying someone else. This is Jerry we are talking about.

 

[amame25]

I complain about anybody being injured regardless of their contract.

Once the season starts, contracts and salary caps mean absolutely nothing to me. They are out of my mind and all I am thinking about is winning games.

When players get injured, it decreases the probability of winning. I complain.

I'm not complaining about the player. I'm not blaming him for the injury. I blame bad luck. I blame the "football gods". His contract is just a reflection of his value to the team. It's not like it was my money.

Then you are in the minority. There's a lot of screaming about paying money to people who get injured for that to be the norm.

 

[Pass2Run]

So with the line in the sand drawn over parsons contract. Should we expect the same to happen with Tyler Smith and George Pickens if they choose to do so since both are represented by athletes first group and Mr Mulugheta?

No.

See DaRon Bland.

 

[Pass2Run]

The easy solution is to act now, pay those guys market value as it stands right now, and move on.

But the Cowboys love to wait around and wait for other teams to reset the market. It cost them more money with Dak. It cost them more money with CeeDee. And in Micah's case the cost went up so high they decided to trade him.

It's about staggering the contracts to enable you to manage the cap hits of each one.

Tyler Smith will be next, probably in the off-season.

 

[dstew60105]

So with the line in the sand drawn over parsons contract. Should we expect the same to happen with Tyler Smith and George Pickens if they choose to do so since both are represented by athletes first group and Mr Mulugheta?

Smith's agent is Todd France(Daks Agent). who now works for Athletes First.

 

[Hoofbite]

The endorsements in the Dallas market is way over played.

There's a whole wide world out there. Successful players on successful teams are the ones who make money via endorsements.

I dont live in Dallas. Ive havent seen an advert with a Cowboys player in years. I frequently see adverts with successful players on so called small market teams.

Whenever I read the endorsement claim I try to think of an endorsement that can only be had locally. Car dealership endorsements is about the extent of it. I don’t watch a lot of TV so who knows.

Not sure those are worth considering when talking about where to sign.

 

[blueblood70]

Micah wasn't traded because of money.

That's mostly money but not all money some of it has the same Amari Cooper esque deal that I don't think Jerry took too kind to the antics at the preseason game with the table he's been doing that at practice things said in social media they were both equally at fault but at some point when he said no I'm not going with your MRI I'm going to go with my own and behind the scenes yes they up Danny they wanted four years $200 million they did it to push the trade and they got it so in the end it was about money but I will promise you this Jerry didn't appreciate the antics on the sideline it's a really bad look to do what he did..

Let me fill you in on this because Amari Cooper the whole thing with the games and the C word you know we remember all that but also taking off plays disappearing in games didn't like to practice rather have played chess in the locker room kinda separated himself from the rest of the group let me fill you in on this maybe you didn't notice but there's been at least four occasions just last year where we were losing games and Parsons was being taken out of games as far as he had no stats,

Know where we found him on the end of the bench slumped over slouched no emotions on his face and far away from his coaches and players..

This is not new the stuff he was doing during this contract dispute at practice and on the sidelines at preseason games I guarantee Jerry took more offense to that than anything else that was done and yes in the end it was too much money to pay for a guy they felt was gonna be a problem...

Yes he's a great player they didn't trade him because he sucked and can only rush to pass her I get that's what's being said and some of that is true it turned out to be money but his attitude his willing to fake an injury to not be part of the first couple of games of the season to push it that far and then his his body language that was it that was a nail in the coffin..

 

[blueblood70]

Smith's agent is Todd France(Daks Agent). who now works for Athletes First.

Yes we all have found this out but that doesn't mean Todd France does business the same way as David their personalities are far different they have four agents working at that agency and just because David didn't go along with Jerry at this point doesn't mean that Todd France is going to handle Smiths contract the way David handled Parsons that's not how it works.

Oh I don't even think when it comes to Pickens does have David as his agent that this is going to go exactly the same it's probably not this is an anomaly it was a perfect storm it went sideways and then it went real bad and then it fell off a Cliff there was a point of no return and it's time to turn the page...

 

[CCBoy]

A completely nonsensical post.

Oh yea, get one's wizard wand out...

 

[CCBoy]

lol, oh please. Even if we chalk it up to greed, that’s the name of the game. Either pay or don’t. Every other team has to build a roster with greedy players in the mix so if you can’t handle it you have no business running a franchise.

Like a lot of fans, Jerry seems to think there’s some inherent perk to being a Cowboy. That only works with winning franchises and Dallas isn’t one. Jerry thinks too highly of himself and therefore his team. He oversells on being a Cowboy meaning something special to a group of players who largely weren’t even born the last time Dallas won a championship. These players aren’t buying that nonsense. You aren’t getting any discounts on account of the last 30-or-so years.

If only it didn't matter if you got the cart before the horse. I think that a billionaire has a working plan in place. Ask Jimmy how his very last game coached went.

 

[CCBoy]

This dude gets it.

So you admit that the players run the league and not the other way around. That sounds exactly how the NBA works nos. Only 5 on court. You know how game cost affects their cash flows.

 

[CCBoy]

Emmitt didn’t want to leave. Parcells cut him.

Ware didn’t want to leave. Jerry cut him.

Dez didn’t want to leave. Jerry cut him.

Can you think of a player that chose to leave Dallas (even with the dysfunction) because they wanted to win a SB elsewhere? I can’t think of a single quality player that has publicly stated they turned down money in Dallas to play elsewhere.

I can think of a TON of players that stayed WAY over their productive years that this FO has overpaid.

To your point— they are professionals. They play for money. And they are people with families and relationships in the cities they play in.

Uh, I fully think Mom has a mansion, I know, not a high rise yet. But his diamond necklace is already impressive...

 

[Hoofbite]

So you admit that the players run the league and not the other way around. That sounds exactly how the NBA works nos. Only 5 on court. You know how game cost affects their cash flows.

Not really thinking about it from that perspective.

Just that if you have a productive player you want to keep there’s no reason to not lock in the price as soon as you identify them as a staple of your team. It’s only going to go up and you can make any contract work for a year in terms of the cap.

Is there a little more risk? Maybe but we’re talking 3+ years into a career here and if you don’t know what you have at that point you’re probably best to not make a move at all.