FWST Blog: Cowboy's New Strength Coach Lost Out To Deion In First Go-Round

[Hostile]

who knew anything about college football knew what Switzer was all about and why 99.9% of the Cowboys fans knew what was coming and weren't happy about it.

About the thing with Deion and Wocik, there's a fine line that sometimes get blury. Wocik might be good at what he does, but he didn't make Deion what he was. There are, at times, freaks of nature that you just shake your head and wonder why the Gods of sports were good to them and not to others who probably deserve it more..

Want an example ? here's one: How would Wocik had handled the beer drinking, hot dog eating, cigar smoking, overweight freak of nature named Babe Ruth ? Who in here would have picked Wocik over Ruth ?

Deion Sanders said something, stepped on the field, and did it. I don't know how much weight he lifted, how many miles, sprints and gazzards he ran, or how much film he studied. Whatever he was doing, it was working, and that's something that Wocik has absolutely NO reason or right to mess with, so in that sense, Switzer was correct.

Now, that doesn't mean that what applies to Deion, should apply to the rest of the roster. The " great Jimmah Jenius ", long adored in here by many, used that same exact philosophy. It's not a democracy and it's not fair. What applies to Michael Irvin, does not necessariy apply to John Roper. What applies to Troy Aikman, does not necessariy apply to Curvin Richards, and so on. The key is to find the right formula where even though it's not fair, it's acceptable by players and that formula starts with winning.

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[adbutcher]

who knew anything about college football knew what Switzer was all about and why 99.9% of the Cowboys fans knew what was coming and weren't happy about it.

About the thing with Deion and Wocik, there's a fine line that sometimes get blury. Wocik might be good at what he does, but he didn't make Deion what he was. There are, at times, freaks of nature that you just shake your head and wonder why the Gods of sports were good to them and not to others who probably deserve it more..

Want an example ? here's one: How would Wocik had handled the beer drinking, hot dog eating, cigar smoking, overweight freak of nature named Babe Ruth ? Who in here would have picked Wocik over Ruth ?

Deion Sanders said something, stepped on the field, and did it. I don't know how much weight he lifted, how many miles, sprints and gazzards he ran, or how much film he studied. Whatever he was doing, it was working, and that's something that Wocik has absolutely NO reason or right to mess with, so in that sense, Switzer was correct.

Now, that doesn't mean that what applies to Deion, should apply to the rest of the roster. The " great Jimmah Jenius ", long adored in here by many, used that same exact philosophy. It's not a democracy and it's not fair. What applies to Michael Irvin, does not necessariy apply to John Roper. What applies to Troy Aikman, does not necessariy apply to Curvin Richards, and so on. The key is to find the right formula where even though it's not fair, it's acceptable by players and that formula starts with winning.

 

[yimyammer]

I fully agree. And we knew this after he was forced out of Oklahoma, yet this is who Jerry opted to turn the defending champions over to.
Anf then after it inevitably went downhill he opted for Gailey, who he gave no power to and ultimately undermined, and then he just went with Mr. Yes-man personified, Dave Campo.

But the blame lies solely with Jerry for intentionally not hiring a leader to be HC all those years, then undermining them and then not hiring a real GM which resulted in ruining the talent level on the field too.

And if that wasn't bad enough, he went back to that same formula the last four years with Wade. Main difference being Ciskowski is no Lacewell.

What's even scarier is that Jerry's second choice and almost first choice to coach the Cowboys when he bought the team was Barry Switzer but he was apparently talked out of Barry because someone convinced him that if he brought the hated coach from OU to take over the Cowboys after dumping Landry all hell would break lose.

I'm currently reading Hell Bent by Skip Bayless. Based on the opinions of Bayless around here, I expected a bunch of sensational tabloid journalism, yet that's not how it comes accross. It goes into a lot of detail about the inner conflicts between Barry and Aikman, Barry and the press, etc, etc. I dont know how accurate it all is but it gives an interesting view into the chaos & drama that was going on behind the scenes while Barry coached in 94' and 95'

 

[5Stars]

have said many times the day I knew things would return to correct was when Jeff Ireland took over for Larry Lacewell and Parcells was soon hired. Ireland, Ciskowski, Stephen, and even Wade would stand up to Jerry and back him down. Barry and Larry never did.



Hostile, this bolded part confuses me. Care to give an example when Wade backed down Jerry? Hell, give me an example of Wade backing down anyone.

 

[Randy White]

Larry Lacewell... UUUGGGHHHH... !!!

Just hearing the name, like looking into Medusa's eyes, would turn Cowboys' fans hearts into stone..

 

[Apollo Creed]

I expected nothing less when Switzer arrived. I told anyone who would listen that he was going to have success up front with Jimmy's players and then he was going to drive this team into Dante's Inferno with a slow descent into hell.

Barry was a cancer.

I know that no one on this earth hates Barry Switzer more than Troy Aikman. Granted, they did have a post before the Cowboys - but Troy has made it no secret how much he loathes the bootlegger's boy.

That team won in spite of Switzer, if it weren't of the veteran leadership of some very high class guys that team would've fallen apart. Troy, Moose, Novacek, Woody, etc. People think back on the dynasty and immediately think, white house and partying. Lost in all that were some no-nonsense guys that did everything the right way. Guys like that were the glue that held the team together much more than coaching staff or organization did at that time.

 

[john]

Barry is right. Whatever Deion wanted to do I would've let him do....to a point. Barry had enough repoire with Deion that it didn't need to get to that point. Barry could've made it work but maybe he underestimated Wocik ccontribution. And Jerry should've known how valuable his conditioning coach was.

And Barry wasn't a great coach. I guess he was just lucky to have such dominating teams at Oklahoma and to take the cowboys to the superbowl and win. Just a fluke.

Don't dare list Barry Switzer and Wade Phillips in the same sentence. Don't let that easy going, non-caring attitude and big smile convince you he just stumbled into greatness.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

In fact the story I read by another Cowboy stated Aikman and Switzer weren't even speaking because Aikman upset with Switzer's lack of focus, team discipline, etc.

This is why we lost 3rd NFC title game vs Niners.

 

[Primetime42]

Barry is right. Whatever Deion wanted to do I would've let him do....to a point. Barry had enough repoire with Deion that it didn't need to get to that point. Barry could've made it work but maybe he underestimated Wocik ccontribution. And Jerry should've known how valuable his conditioning coach was.

And Barry wasn't a great coach. I guess he was just lucky to have such dominating teams at Oklahoma and to take the cowboys to the superbowl and win. Just a fluke.

Don't dare list Barry Switzer and Wade Phillips in the same sentence. Don't let that easy going, non-caring attitude and big smile convince you he just stumbled into greatness.

He was a smooth talker who knew how to recruit inner city players where other coaches could not.

Come preparation and gameday he was a tool.

We won that 3rd SB in spite of him, and if he actually acted like a professional coach, we would have won in 1994 as well.

Great recruiter, lousy coach.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Barry is right. Whatever Deion wanted to do I would've let him do....to a point. Barry had enough repoire with Deion that it didn't need to get to that point.

Barry could only do what Deion agreed to do. Deion held more clout in the organization (ie. Jerry) than the head coach did, and Deion knew it. So did Barry. So, at the end the day, when Deion sits in a team meeting and props his feet on the table and declares in front of everyone that he doesn't give a crap about watching film, the coach has no choice but to look the other way and let him do it. Then if a Sherman Williams idolizes Deion Sanders and says "You know what? I don't want to watch film either." He not only hurts himself, but he hurts the entire team because now the organization has just wasted a 2nd round draft pick on a player who is never going to reach his potential and contribute to the team in any meaningful way.

And yeah, if you can't see the difference between a self destructive human being a divisive force that splits people against each other, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[TNCowboy]

Barry could only do what Deion agreed to do. Deion held more clout in the organization (ie. Jerry) than the head coach did, and Deion knew it. So did Barry. So, at the end the day, when Deion sits in a team meeting and props his feet on the table and declares in front of everyone that he doesn't give a crap about watching film, the coach has no choice but to look the other way and let him do it. Then if a Sherman Williams idolizes Deion Sanders and says "You know what? I don't want to watch film either." He not only hurts himself, but he hurts the entire team because now the organization has just wasted a 2nd round draft pick on a player who is never going to reach his potential and contribute to the team in any meaningful way.

And yeah, if you can't see the difference between a self destructive human being a divisive force that splits people against each other, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[zrinkill]

A disappointing example of players achieving a level of self-indulgence that contributed to a lesser team.

On the bright side, it looks to be a wrong that Jason Garrett is looking to right.

That's got to be a good thing.

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