FWST Blog: Dan Reeves Speaks

[Hostile]

Yeah.

It's a cop out.

You believe that Owens is simply doing it on his own.

It doesn't change things.

When players from other teams are publicly stating how simplistic Garrett's offense is, that should tell you all you need to know about its' lack of 'complexity'.

Maybe Garrett should give Haley a call for some advice?

I don't believe any OC in History has instructed players to run INTO double coverage. I believe some WRs get double covered. But that they are instructed to find it and run there? No way, no shape, no how.

Simplistic is a straw man argument. Jimmy's Offense was simplistic. Everyone knew what we were going to run. They still couldn't stop it. Lombardi's Offense was simplistic. You still had to stop it.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

I don't believe any OC in History has instructed players to run INTO double coverage. I believe some WRs get double covered. But that they are instructed to find it and run there? No way, no shape, no how.

Simplistic is a straw man argument. Jimmy's Offense was simplistic. Everyone knew what we were going to run. They still couldn't stop it. Lombardi's Offense was simplistic. You still had to stop it.

Yep. All else aside, this is self evident.

 

[khiladi]

Simplicity isn't to be confused with predictability... WHile Norv was simple, he surely wasn't predictable. Safeties bit with Norv and his play-action... The claim that everybody knew what we were going to run is absurd. Dallas had a BALANCED attack, so it kept defenses guessing... Safeties don't bite with Garrett, who rarely employs play-action...

 

[TheDude]

Garrett lobbied for Brad Johnson and didn't play Holland

That is really telling

 

[Stash]

Doesn't really matter how simplistic an offense is, its all about how well its executed.

This offense was so simplistic that the great Jim Johnson held it to 41 points in September.

And the second time he faced Jim Johnson? With better receivers I might add?

As far as Ed Reed and Ray Lewis calling the offense simplistic, if it was so easy to disect why did no one cover Miles Austin 30 yards down field in that final game at Texas Stadium? If the play is properly executed, either by Romo throwing the ball accurately or Austin taking a proper angle (whoever you blame), that's a long td.

The fact is that Garrett's offense was gangbusters against poor defenses and helpless against the good ones.

Another point made ad nauseum: Can you take anything Reed and Lewis say about Garrett's ofense seriously? Is it possible those guys simply wanted to stick it to Garrett since he turned down the Baltimore job?

Ever think maybe theyr were right? They seemed to be sitting pretty when they made those comments. They didn't need anything from Jason Garrett. They seemed to do just fine without him. And they wanted Rex Ryan to get the head-coaching gig in Baltimore, not Garrett.

I don't buy the offense is simple accusations, and if it is who cares? Execution always carries the day. I don't see why Jason Garrett gets so much criticism. Does he deerve some? Sure, there was suspect play calling and use of personnel - look no further than Felix Jones lack of touches in the first Skins game, but I'm not ready to throw away a 42 year old OC that has interviewed for 5 head coaching positions the last 2 offseasons. Obviously, Garrett has some respect in league circles.

Hey, don't.

You believe whatever you want to believe, not what yer lyin' eyes tell ya.

Jason Garrett gets well-deserved criticism for what he failed to do with the wealth of talent he was given. What we can't see if why the guy gets so much credit that he hasn't earned.

Sherman Lewis interviewed for plenty of head coaching positions too, maybe we should sign him up?

 

[Hostile]

I guess the cat finally farted.

Is there a story behind the cat farting? This is the 2nd or 3rd time I've seen it referenced and I have no earthly idea what it means.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

Is there a story behind the cat farting? This is the 2nd or 3rd time I've seen it referenced and I have no earthly idea what it means.

I had no idea either and was ashamed to say it for fear of not being one of the popular kids.

 

[Stash]

I don't believe any OC in History has instructed players to run INTO double coverage. I believe some WRs get double covered. But that they are instructed to find it and run there? No way, no shape, no how.

I don't think he did wither. His failure came in knowing where the double teams were and designing plays to beat it.

Simplistic is a straw man argument. Jimmy's Offense was simplistic. Everyone knew what we were going to run. They still couldn't stop it. Lombardi's Offense was simplistic. You still had to stop it.

So the offense's execution under Jason Garrett's coaching is sub-par?

Still means it's ultimately his fault.

 

[LucaBrasi]

And the second time he faced Jim Johnson? With better receivers I might add?



The fact is that Garrett's offense was gangbusters against poor defenses and helpless against the good ones.



Ever think maybe theyr were right? They seemed to be sitting pretty when they made those comments. They didn't need anything from Jason Garrett. They seemed to do just fine without him. And they wanted Rex Ryan to get the head-coaching gig in Baltimore, not Garrett.



Hey, don't.

You believe whatever you want to believe, not what yer lyin' eyes tell ya.

Jason Garrett gets well-deserved criticism for what he failed to do with the wealth of talent he was given. What we can't see if why the guy gets so much credit that he hasn't earned.

Sherman Lewis interviewed for plenty of head coaching positions too, maybe we should sign him up?

ok, well I subscribe to the theory of if you are going to fire somebody - you better have somebody better to replace him. Who exactly would be a better coordinator that is available right now?

 

[TD-33]

I think JJ simply wanted in writing that he had final say on who stays/goes and Reeves didn't want to do that.

And there you go.

 

[TD-33]

btw who does usually get the final word in the nfl? the gm?

 

[Arch Stanton]

Is there a story behind the cat farting? This is the 2nd or 3rd time I've seen it referenced and I have no earthly idea what it means.

It was the picture in a TO supporter sig. An old man and a cat. The cat's backside was taking aim at....

That's why I said it with the umbrella pic.

 

[zeromaster]

Like I said, what does Garrett have on Jerry Jones? Mind-boggling...

Pictures?

Hey, it's a theory; not saying it's a good one.

 

[Stash]

ok, well I subscribe to the theory of if you are going to fire somebody - you better have somebody better to replace him. Who exactly would be a better coordinator that is available right now?

Good question.

Let me do some research and get back to ya on that.

Is Chudzinski (sp?) still available?

I liked what he was doing in Cleveland.

 

[khiladi]

ok, well I subscribe to the theory of if you are going to fire somebody - you better have somebody better to replace him. Who exactly would be a better coordinator that is available right now?

My grandmother.. Our high school coach, and our team sucked... Maybe Dan Reeves...

 

[Hostile]

I don't think he did wither. His failure came in knowing where the double teams were and designing plays to beat it.



So the offense's execution under Jason Garrett's coaching is sub-par?

Still means it's ultimately his fault.

And I'll stick with my belief that the blame is widespread and not focused.

Thanks for the discussion. I always like debating with you because you bring good buckshot.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

Simplicity isn't to be confused with predictability... WHile Norv was simple, he surely wasn't predictable. Safeties bit with Norv and his play-action... The claim that everybody knew what we were going to run is absurd. Dallas had a BALANCED attack, so it kept defenses guessing... Safeties don't bite with Garrett, who rarely employs play-action...

Don’t try to explain it, some folks just don’t get it. Their logic is so flawed, they are beyond help.

 

[Stash]

And I'll stick with my belief that the blame is widespread and not focused.

Thanks for the discussion. I always like debating with you because you bring good buckshot.

Likewise my friend!