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stasheroo;2623147 said:
The opposite side of that 'guarantee' argument is annointing him when he hasn't accomplished anything either. Every coach is a question mark. Some turn out well, some don't. But somehow Garrett is beyond question.
How is he "beyond question?" He's questioned here every single day since the season ended. because I disagree, he's beyond question? Oh come on, tell me you've got something more than that tired crap.

Garrett was always considered a smart guy who got by with intelligence over physical ability. Many thought he'd be make a good coach and it runs in the family too.
My point exactly. I've been on his bandwagon since the 90's when he was still playing.

They obviously didn't want him so badly that they'd do anything to keep him - including promoting him. And they had first-hand knowledge of his abilities at that point and knew what kind of coach he was better than anyone.
Promote him to what? The HC was in place. The OC was in place. They knew he had ties to Dallas.

You can throw out all of the games Romo was injured and Garrett still struggled to get the most out of the talent he had while Sparano was able to maximize what he had in Miami. That's not theory, that's fact. Not to mention the criticism leveled against Garrett for even having Brad Johnson here as his backup QB which certainly cost this team.
When Sparano does it for more than one year get back to me. They had a good year. He's a good coach, but talk about anointing someone. Waver much?

Garrett was riding a huge wave of success in '07, there's no denying that. But when the guy had to do it himself, he struggled, and his shine suffered as a result.
If you say so. I don't buy it.

How many interviews did Sherman Lewis get? And where is he now? Lots of people get interviews for jobs they never get or aren't qualified for. Some even get the job. Funny how even the Rams and Lions wouldn't hire him given how bad they were in '08. That's the bottom of the barrel saying "no thanks".
Those teams both wanted Defensive coaches and that was known before the hiring processes even began. Garrett still nearly emerged with one of the jobs and only his salary was an obstacle at the end.

And yet, when all is said and done, he's still here in Dallas, trying to fix his struggles of 2008.

As a fan, I hope he succeeds, but that's far from the certainty some would like to believe.
No one thinks it is a certainty. That's a deflection. I am glad he is here to fix the struggles. I think his pride will push him harder in 2009.
 

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Iago33;2623151 said:
Even though I agree that he had positive comments about Garrett and they will be ignored, I don't think that is "the saddest thing of all" in this situation.
I said "of all that," not "of all."
 

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stasheroo;2623147 said:
The opposite side of that 'guarantee' argument is annointing him when he hasn't accomplished anything either. Every coach is a question mark. Some turn out well, some don't. But somehow Garrett is beyond question.

Garrett was always considered a smart guy who got by with intelligence over physical ability. Many thought he'd be make a good coach and it runs in the family too.

They obviously didn't want him so badly that they'd do anything to keep him - including promoting him. And they had first-hand knowledge of his abilities at that point and knew what kind of coach he was better than anyone.

You can throw out all of the games Romo was injured and Garrett still struggled to get the most out of the talent he had while Sparano was able to maximize what he had in Miami. That's not theory, that's fact. Not to mention the criticism leveled against Garrett for even having Brad Johnson here as his backup QB which certainly cost this team.

Garrett was riding a huge wave of success in '07, there's no denying that. But when the guy had to do it himself, he struggled, and his shine suffered as a result.

How many interviews did Sherman Lewis get? And where is he now? Lots of people get interviews for jobs they never get or aren't qualified for. Some even get the job. Funny how even the Rams and Lions wouldn't hire him given how bad they were in '08. That's the bottom of the barrel saying "no thanks".

And yet, when all is said and done, he's still here in Dallas, trying to fix his struggles of 2008.

As a fan, I hope he succeeds, but that's far from the certainty some would like to believe.

:hammer:

Please post more.
 

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rockwood2;2623158 said:
Johnny Come Lately...

I hope you are not referring to me sir.
I'm not finger pointing at anyone in particular, but the fan base in general. I'm as guilty of it as anyone else from time to time.
 

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Garrett had injuries, but the fact is, he didn't do anything to adjust. Tony Romo kept getting hurt, because Garrett kept calling deep vertical routes. It was his fault Romo got hammered in OT trying to go deep, when they were backed up in the end-zone agaist the Cardinals. The more pounding Romo took, the less Garrett adjusted by trying to get the ball out quickly with three step drops. He single handedly almost ruined Romo's career... Funny that he kept going with seven-step drops when the Ol couldn't hold the point of attack.
It was Garrett's fault they didn't try and run more to take pressure off Romo... It was Garrett's fault he didn't adjust the game-plan to cater to Brad Johnson's skills. It was his fault Brad Johnson was here in the first place..

Garrett hasn't shown a shred of evidence he is real-world intelligent... He's over-rated even in that department... He's a bum
 

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khiladi;2623160 said:
How about...

He coached Joey Harrington during his tenure in Miami and now, Harrington is a sought after number one QB...

O, wait a minute....
This is humorous and silly.

Steve Spagnuolo coached Darrel Crutchfield in 2001, Crutchfield is sought after as a CB...

Oh, wait a minute...
 

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The guys on the lunchbreak(Nic Eatman,Darren Woodson etc.) think that all this bodes well for Jason Garrett taking over as the HC in the near future. If they use the model of the Steelers of hiring a young smart guy who could be with the organization for years.

I really don't know how I feel about that because Garrett doesn't command respect from the players.

On the other hand if Jerry would let Jason run this team and not interfere who knows what he can do.
 

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khiladi;2623161 said:
For every Landry and Lombardi that didn't show much there first few years, there are a thousand average coaches or one's that sucked that didn't show much there first few years...
You're right...never hire anybody. Then you can't possibly fail.

Good plan.

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Goldenrichards83;2623183 said:
The guys on the lunchbreak(Nic Eatman,Darren Woodson etc.) think that all this bodes well for Jason Garrett taking over as the HC in the near future. If they use the model of the Steelers of hiring a young smart guy who could be with the organization for years.

I really don't know how I feel about that because Garrett doesn't command respect from the players.

On the other hand if Jerry would let Jason run this team and not interfere who knows what he can do.
Tell that to Montrae Holalnd, Jason Witten, and Martellus Bennett. I can show you where all three in recent weeks said he does.
 

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Hostile;2623181 said:
This is humorous and silly.

Steve Spagnuolo coached Darrel Crutchfield in 2001, Crutchfield is sought after as a CB...

Oh, wait a minute...

What year is it? That's right, it's 2009, eight years after 2001... Jason Garrett resume of coaching inlcudes ONLY Joey Harrington, and GUs Frerotte prior to becoming an OC... 2 years and 2 years of absolutely nothing that gives practical evidence that he could coach...
 

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Hostile;2623185 said:
You're right...never hire anybody. Then you can't possibly fail.

Good plan.

:thumbup:

No, it's called gradually working your way up... Management gives people more and more responsibility to test people along the way to see if they are really capable, as well as develop their skills... Jason Garrett, had none of it... He ran the same offense last year as this year and he couldn't adjust at all... The guy is the worst real-time coach I've seen...
 

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khiladi;2623190 said:
What year is it? That's right, it's 2009, eight years after 2001... Jason Garrett resume of coaching inlcudes ONLY Joey Harrington, and GUs Frerotte prior to becoming an OC... 2 years and 2 years of absolutely nothing that gives practical evidence that he could coach...
Gotcha.

Tell me all about the teams that will be lining up to sign Jeremy Clark since he was coached by Steve Spagnuolo in 2008.
 

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khiladi;2623195 said:
No, it's called gradually working your way up to test people along the way to see if they are really capable, as well as develop their skills...
Which is exactly what we are doing.
 

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Hostile;2623197 said:
Gotcha.

Tell me all about the teams that will be lining up to sign Jeremy Clark since he was coached by Steve Spagnuolo in 2008.

Wait... Spagnouolo was a positions coach in 2008.... How many years was Spagnoula in the coaching business before he became a DC and then Head Coach?
 

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Hostile;2623198 said:
Which is exactly what we are doing.

Could have fooled me... How do you do that by making him Assistant Head Coach and having full control over the offense?
 

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khiladi;2623201 said:
Wait... Spagnouolo was a positions coach in 2008....
Aw, the rules change. I figured they would.

Tell me about all the team who will line up to sign Roderick Green if the 49ers release him.
 

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Tony Romo took a pounding because of Jason Garrett... Tony Romo almost got killed because of Jason Garrett...
 

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Hostile;2623210 said:
Aw, the rules change. I figured they would.

Tell me about all the team who will line up to sign Roderick Green if the 49ers release him.

Yeah, your the one trying to change the rules... Tell me again, how many years was SPagnol in the coaching business before he was made DC, then come back to me with your errant analogies, trying to compare him to Garrett...

BTW, how many QBs do you coach when your the QB coach and how many CBs are you coaching when your the DB coach? It's called probability... The Giants DBs didn't look too bad this year...
 

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Hostile;2623188 said:
Tell that to Montrae Holalnd, Jason Witten, and Martellus Bennett. I can show you where all three in recent weeks said he does.
I'm sure some respect him Hostile but he has to win over the majority of the lockeroom for it to work. And I belive it could be done if Jerry backs him 100%. This team is in need of leadership and if Garrett is gonna be the guy he has to demand it from everyone. I know everyone isn't gonna like you but you have to demand and command respect. I'm not a big Garrett fan but I am willing to give the guy another shot with a healthy Felix Jones, Romo, Kosier and Barber. I am also on board in hiring a young guy who will be here for the next 10 years but Jerry must allow him to be the guy, not a yes man. Maybe Garrett is that guy. If anybody interested the lunchbreak is really making some great points: http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/multimedia_center.cfm
 

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khiladi;2623202 said:
Could have fooled me... How do you do that by making him Assistant Head Coach and having full control over the offense?

You are right about Garrett. He was an inexperienced QB coach who Jerry brought here to be the OC/AHC. And on top of it he was hired even before Wade was.

He might have a bright future, but so far I'm not impressed.
 
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