FWST Blog: Dan Reeves Speaks

[Hostile]

Could have fooled me... How do you do that by making him Assistant Head Coach and having full control over the offense?

He started as a QB coach in Miami, came here as the OC, and graduated to full control over the Offense.

Where have you been?

 

[ethiostar]

Tony Romo took a pounding because of Jason Garrett... Tony Romo almost got killed because of Jason Garrett...

I'm not in love with Garrett, but the fact that Tony was getting pressure might have something to do with the fact that Koiser got hurt.

 

[Hostile]

Tony Romo took a pounding because of Jason Garrett... Tony Romo almost got killed because of Jason Garrett...

Garrett was playing LG on our OL?

Well, no wonder we struggled.

 

[zrinkill]

Garrett was playing LG on our OL?

Well, no wonder we struggled.

175 lb LG

 

[Hostile]

Yeah, your the one trying to change the rules... Tell me again, how many years was SPagnol in the coaching business before he was made DC, then come back to me with your errant analogies, trying to compare him to Garrett...

BTW, how many QBs do you coach when your the QB coach and how many CBs are you coaching when your the DB coach? It's called probability... The Giants DBs didn't look too bad this year...

I'm not changing the rules.

You're the one who brought up a QB who was under Garrett as some kind of evidence that he can't coach.

So I brought up Crutchfield who was a CB under Spagnuolo back when he was a Position coach. You changed the game to 2008.

So I went along and picked someone from the 2008 roster. Now, he wasn't a position coach in 2008.

So I pick someone who played under a position coach, who never has been a coordinator and is now a Head Coach and you want to bring up "coaching progression." Where is Singletary's then?

Swiss cheese.

 

[khiladi]

I'm not in love with Garrett, but the fact that Tony was getting pressure might have something to do with the fact that Koiser got hurt.

Ah OK.. The very guy people said was the weak link in the offensive line the year before, suddenly became the key player in the Dallas offensive engine... With the way people talk about Kosier, it is as if he was the real MVP of this team...

You think Garrett could have adjusted either way, with a new lineman, you know like running 3 step drops, shortenings routes for hsi WRs, running some slants so the ball could get out early instead of continuing to have Romo in seven step drops, while his WRs continued to run around trying to get open downfield, straight into the very coverage that defenses were defending against...

No wonder we were so inconsistent... Romo isn't going to buy time every week and make miraculous plays every week..

 

[Randy White]

Dan Reeves: No. It wasn’t authority. It was perfectly clear I was going to answer to Wade and Jerry. I don’t want to get into the details. It was something he felt was important and I felt it was important to me. It had nothing to do with authority.

I'm skipping alot of pages in this thread, so the answer might have been already posted, however this is my conclusion:

forget T.O., forget Pacman, forget any other player for that matter. If it wasn't authority, the only other reason I see for this not happening is MONEY. No, not the amount per year, but the GUARANTEED part. I'd bet a small amount of money that Jerrah didn't wanted to guarantee whatever amount of years ( you choose ) Dan would have on his contract and he balked.

When a person says " I felt it was important to me " and also says " it wasn't authority " issues, THE only other issue left is compensation.

 

[khiladi]

He started as a QB coach in Miami, came here as the OC, and graduated to full control over the Offense.

Where have you been?

ANd what did he do in Miami with Joey Harrington?

 

[odog422]

That's not me saying I think Garrett needed a babysitter, I don't know that at all, but him being nice and saying all the right things doesn't exactly mean much at this point either.

That's where I'm with it as well. He's too classy a guy to slam Jerry, the organization or anyone working there.

He'll be PC, and pretty much tote the "ah shucks, too bad it couldn't work out" deal.

 

[khiladi]

I'm not changing the rules.

You're the one who brought up a QB who was under Garrett as some kind of evidence that he can't coach.

So I brought up Crutchfield who was a CB under Spagnuolo back when he was a Position coach. You changed the game to 2008.

So I went along and picked someone from the 2008 roster. Now, he wasn't a position coach in 2008.

So I pick someone who played under a position coach, who never has been a coordinator and is now a Head Coach and you want to bring up "coaching progression." Where is Singletary's then?

Swiss cheese.

No, you are changing the rules.. Wasn't the context of my statement that His ONLY EXPERIENCE prior to coming to the Cowboys was coaching Joey Harrington... That is the context of my statement.. The statement was made in the context of the success of his COACHING CAREER...

Spagnola's coaching career extends far beyond what Garrett ever did... Like I said, don't give me your errant analogies by trying to compare Garrett to Spagnola, whose coaching career before even becoming a DC is far beyond Garrett's..

 

[Randy White]

So what would motivate him to speak highly of Garrett and the offensive staff? Seriously, I think that question has to be answered.

Because he was asked the question ?

 

[rcaldw]

What about Reeves back-tracking on his comments on Owens? Will that be ignored to...

What did you expect Reeves to say? Jason Garrett sucks. and I've been brought in to baby-sit him..

The funny thing is, this pretty much confirms that Reeves was brought in to work with Garrett, because he wasn't doing his job.

Your view and Theogt's view of Garrett, in EVERY SINGLE THREAD, is as predictable as the sun coming up. The difference is that the sun has a relationship to reality. Your view of Garrett is pure fiction. You have an entire novel's worth of "what is really happening behind the scenes", and yet it is all made up in your head. Reeves, UNPROMPTED, says that he is impressed with Garrett and everyone on the offensive staff, and you extract from THAT STATEMENT that, YEP, he was brought in because Garrett isn't doing his job.

lol. man.

 

[dallascowboyfanboy]

Such a sad day. Reeves filed for divorce from Jerry before they could even consumate the marriage. Says wonders about abstaining from pre marital coitus.

 

[Hostile]

ANd what did he do in Miami with Joey Harrington?

What did Mike Singletary do in San Fran with Roderick Green?

 

[rcaldw]

Such a sad day. Reeves filed for divorce from Jerry before they could even consumate the marriage. Says wonders about abstaining from pre marital coitus.

Reeves - real football man
Jerry - pretend football man

Reeves - without the money and power
Jerry - with the money and power

Cowboys - continue to have pretend football man and are denied real football man

 

[khiladi]

Your view and Theogt's view of Garrett, in EVERY SINGLE THREAD, is as predictable as the sun coming up. The difference is that the sun has a relationship to reality. Your view of Garrett is pure fiction. You have an entire novel's worth of "what is really happening behind the scenes", and yet it is all made up in your head. Reeves, UNPROMPTED, says that he is impressed with Garrett and everyone on the offensive staff, and you extract from THAT STATEMENT that, YEP, he was brought in because Garrett isn't doing his job.

lol. man.

SO you expect Dan Reeves to come out and say, Jason Garrett sucks and I was hired to baby-sit him? wow... How far have you been in your professional career?

 

[ethiostar]

Ah OK.. The very guy people said was the weak link in the offensive line the year before, suddenly became the key player in the Dallas offensive engine... With the way people talk about Kosier, it is as if he was the real MVP of this team...

I'm assuming you're talking about fans here. What fans say about kosier has nothing to do with what coaches think about him nor is it a true reflection of his worth for the OL. As far as most fans are concerned they won't be happy unless we have 53 pro bowlers on the team.

You think Garrett could have adjusted either way, with a new lineman, you know like running 3 step drops, shortenings routes for hsi WRs, running some slants so the ball could get out early instead of continuing to have Romo in seven step drops, while his WRs continued to run around trying to get open downfield, straight into the very coverage that defenses were defending against...

I don't think anybody is saying that he shouldn't shoulder some blame. But i don't think its fair that we put everything on him either. Like i've stated previously, i'm not quite sold on him just yet but he's had two years, one very good and the second mediocre. Other teams caught on to him and he seemed a bit slow to adjust as much as we would have liked. I'm willing to give him another shot.

No wonder we were so inconsistent... Romo isn't going to buy time every week and make miraculous plays every week..

Actually Romo has been trying to emulate Brady and therefore he hasn't been moving around as much as he used to, which by the way is something i wish they would utilize from time to time because he was very good at it.

 

[Randy White]

And sometimes, Combine workout warriors just don't turn out. Maybe Garrett will. But it's infuriating having someone at such an important position having to go through growing pains while our window of opportunity is open only so long.

Really ? and how long is that window ? For that matter, how long was the window for the Giants and Cardinals ? Has the window for the Patriots closed ?

There's no such thing as " window of opportunity " anymore in the NFL. That was true in the dynasty years when a SB teams would have usually gone through the building process ( ie: draft, development, experience, etc ). In this era, it's been proven that just about anybody can get to SB with a few breaks here and there.

Folks need to stop living in the past. Don't forget it, but don't try to implement those same sets of values into today's NFL. Most of it won't work.

 

[khiladi]

What did Mike Singletary do in San Fran with Roderick Green?

I am going to repeat it for you one more time...

No, you are changing the rules.. Wasn't the context of my statement that His ONLY EXPERIENCE prior to coming to the Cowboys was coaching Joey Harrington... That is the context of my statement.. The statement was made in the context of the success of his COACHING CAREER...

Spagnola's coaching career extends far beyond what Garrett ever did... Like I said, don't give me your errant analogies by trying to compare Garrett to Spagnola, whose coaching career before even becoming a DC is far beyond Garrett's..

How long has Singletray been out of football and coaching?

 

[Hostile]

No, you are changing the rules.. Wasn't the context of my statement that His ONLY EXPERIENCE prior to coming to the Cowboys was coaching Joey Harrington... That is the context of my statement.. The statement was made in the context of the success of his COACHING CAREER...

Spagnola's coaching career extends far beyond what Garrett ever did... Like I said, don't give me your errant analogies by trying to compare Garrett to Spagnola, whose coaching career before even becoming a DC is far beyond Garrett's..

Pick a Head Coach whose last job was as a position coach, and I will find you a player at that position who did not tear up the NFL or was not highly sought after.

It was and is a silly supposition.

You set the parameters. I will provide the name of a player that did not "develop." You have 88 years of History with which to work. I am not afraid of the challenge.