FWST/DMN Blog: Terry Glenn update

[Hostile]

stash slapped some sense into me. : )

Stash enjoys that. My face is still red from the last time he educated me.

 

[arync]

I want to see what Glenn can do so I think he should sign the waiver, participate in the OTA's and Minicamp before training camp starts and see what is knee does after that. If it holds up thats great, atleast we know going into TC if he's a part of the plan or not.

 

[Stash]

Stash enjoys that. My face is still red from the last time he educated me.

Dat's me!

Internet Tough Guy!

:flex:

Let that be a lesson to the rest of you!

 

[SMCowboy]

Seems like a unique situation to me.

And I for one hope that the team decides to move on, not so much for the money aspect but for the wasted roster spot that could once again result.

While I'm very happy that the team has re-upped with Terrell Owens as I feel he deserves it, it has brought into clearer focus the team's precarious position at receiver.

It is always a bit of a gamble against Father Time by keeping older players, and the Cowboys are taking a calculated risk that Owens can stay healthy at age 34 and beyond.

That would be fine if they had any sort of a backup or contingency plan, but if they continue to count on Terry Glenn, that's too much of a gamble in my book and one that could come back to haunt a team with Super Bowl aspirations.

Nobody can replace Owens, but the team needs to have better options if he does get injured.

And Terry Glenn isn't one.

If Terry Glenn is not able to make it threw training camps and the mini camps 100%, then he will no doubt be cut. But, if he is able to, them there is no reason not to keep him, he is the one guy, that we have or can get at this stage that could even come close to replacing TO if he went down.

 

[Stash]

If Terry Glenn is not able to make it threw training camps and the mini camps 100%, then he will no doubt be cut. But, if he is able to, them there is no reason not to keep him, he is the one guy, that we have or can get at this stage that could even come close to replacing TO if he went down.

Do you honestly view that as a possibility?

I have said it before that I feel that a "healthy Terry Glenn" no longer exists.

 

[iceberg]

Dat's me!

Internet Tough Guy!

:flex:

Let that be a lesson to the rest of you!

(so stealing this line in irony)

are you threatening me?????

 

[sago1]

Sympathize with Glenn's predictiment. After all, he's got his family to think about but I also really believe he desperately wants to contribute to a SB win with the Cowboys. But I can also understand Jerry's need to protect our cap as much as possible. After all, we kept TG on the roster last year when most teams would have put him on IR in case he could help us in the playoffs; we also paid him his $5M salary. So we entering a 2nd full year when his knee remains a concern as to whether/how long he can play & at what level.

It's easy to say cut him but then what. Look to the WRs we already got on the roster; that's risky to say the least. And which WRs would be available and how much would the team demand for trading him. Keep in mind that we aren't the only team searching for a WR. There's also the Eagles, etc. I'm thinking RWilliams of Detroit could be had but maybe at a cost of probably 2 first rounders or a first rounder & a player of their chosing from our roster. Jerry won't and we don't want him to pay go that high.

 

[cowboyjoe]

i think this way;

glenn has to realize that his chances of getting to a super bowl and winning are real slim, especially with his right knee problem;

jerry jones is protecting himself, that glenn should realize he got 5.82 million last year for nothing, and no other team will sign him with his knee problem for a 1.74 million

so if glenn does want a chance for a super bowl, he needs to wake up, sign the waiver, he would still get 500,000 if he injures himself anywhere else than the bad knee he gets the full 1.740,000

jerry jones is trying to protect himself and the cowboys by the salary cap hit

thats about 1 million and 250,000 saved if glenn reinjures his knee,

thats enough to work on a deal either with canty or tank johnson along with a million or so added in

i think reports are we have about 5,800,000 left, if glenn reinjures himself and injury settlement done, then we get to add about 1,250,00 the way i understand it, so its sense to protect yourself, because you have some people still left to sign and get under contract,

glenn should realize that, and he did get 5,820,000 last year, so come to your senses and help the cowboys and yourself glenn,

 

[Reality]

I din't mean that he'd try and trade Glenn, but rather that he'd try harder to acquire a veteran WR.

I think with most teams, when they are in this situation, simply cut the player.

However, with Dallas liking its superbowl chances, the Cowboys are trying to find a way to hedge theri bet so they can keep Glenn but not pay him for another season of watching the games.

Normally, I would say the player should leave but in this case, Glenn should sign it simply because he is near the end of his career, has constantly had injury problems throughout his career and most importantly, he has a decent chance to win a SB finally.

I can understand his "feelings" being hurt but teams know they are going to lose some players for the season due to injuries. The last thing a team should do is go into a year with their #2 receiver already gimpy, injury-prone and coming off a season-long injury season without some type of insurance.

 

[Hostile]

Dat's me!

Internet Tough Guy!

:flex:

Let that be a lesson to the rest of you!

You've all been duly warned. Heed.

 

[Disturbed]

Cut Glenn already.......he's done. Stop throwing money and a roster spot away on him.

 

[WoodysGirl]

More Terry Glenn

11:21 AM Wed, Jun 04, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Calvin Watkins E-mail News tips

Terry Glenn is not expected to attend OTAs today. When he will return isn't known. But Jerry Jones said he would be surprised if something couldn't get worked out with the receiver.

The Cowboys offered Glenn a $500,000 financial settlement should he reinjure his right knee and be lost for the season. Glenn is scheduled to make $1.7 million in base salary this season and is balking at signing the paperwork.

"It was unfortunate the way things worked last year," Jones said regarding Glenn's knee injury. "I paid him five million last year and I got four plays from him so here I understand."

"I know he wants to play and be part of a team that wants to be successful and he can help make it successful there should be something there to work out. We [kept him] last year and we didn't have to do that and we did because of the type of player he is."

Later, Jones was asked if he would like the situation with Glenn solved by the veteran minicamp at the end of the month.
"I know Terry well," Jones said. "We've had some great years together I'm not going to lose any sleep if he's not at veteran minicamp."

 

[jterrell]

Once Terry Glenn does this (if he does) what precedent does it set for all future contracts? Does it set a precedent? How will the NFLPA react?

I can see where every team would want waivers like this.

Does this regularly happen and I'm just unaware of it?

Not really unique. Teams will generally just cut a guy.

In this case Glenn just has to decide if he can make more money on the open market after being cut or if he could pass a team's physical to earn any paycheck at all. 500K is a lot better than nothing.

500K plus the chance to make 1.7 Mil is a heck of a lot better than nothing.

I would generally feel bad for the player in these situations but Dallas paid him 5 mil last year for a year long rehab and we are tight against the cap so if he is re-injured we need cap space to sign or trade for a replacement.

 

[Hostile]

Not really unique. Teams will generally just cut a guy.

In this case Glenn just has to decide if he can make more money on the open market after being cut or if he could pass a team's physical to earn any paycheck at all. 500K is a lot better than nothing.

500K plus the chance to make 1.7 Mil is a heck of a lot better than nothing.

I would generally feel bad for the player in these situations but Dallas paid him 5 mil last year for a year long rehab and we are tight against the cap so if he is re-injured we need cap space to sign or trade for a replacement.

So you're saying if he signs it means one of 2 things.

A. It's his last big paycheck, and he's going to grab it now.

B. He's all right.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Seems like a unique situation to me.

How many teams have carried a player(like we did last year) and paid him in full? I would agree that THAT is a unique situation.

 

[onetrickpony]

I think that failing the exit physical after the season is the real issue here.

I'm not an expert by any means but I think failing the exit physical would probably activate some clause protecting players in the collective bargaining agreement.

JJ is going to have to pay Glenn one way or another, either with an injury settlement or through his contract.

 

[dogberry]

Ok, how much for an injury settlement?

 

[Disturbed]

No injury settlement, that is stupid...he already pocketed almost 6M last year for nothing.

Just cut him...say goodbye, don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.

 

[Dayton Cowboy]

I'm curious, about what the difference is between the injury settlement is the Cowboys are offering and let's say the vet minimum contract that would be offered for a player with TG's tenure?

 

[jterrell]

So you're saying if he signs it means one of 2 things.

A. It's his last big paycheck, and he's going to grab it now.

B. He's all right.

Deductively I think that would be right but really I just mean he has no other options, lol.

I am not sure he can make it through another year but I know he wants to collect another paycheck. While I am sure he'd like it to be the 1.7 mil, I bet he'd prefer the 500K to nothing which is probably what'd he'd get if cut because I am fairly sure he can not pass a team's physical.