Gachkar, Brinkley, and Wilber's competition to start opener

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Sometimes as a LB push comes to shove literally and you need to be able to stack and shed OL if you want to make plays in the run game. This fact of football seems to have the club with somewhat of a dilemma even if it is the kind you want to have.

Hitchens is nothing if not precocious and his ability kept us afloat last season. He has short arms though and stacking OL particularly the blockers that hang around the edge is a dicey proposition. If he beats them to the punch or simply outflank them he can do it but overall it is something good blockers take advantage of.

At the WILL and SAM he is lined up ~5 yards behind the los. There his ability to quickly diagnose along with his running ability allows him to flank would be blockers. OTOH, at the SAM he right on the line and tackles and TE usually have rangy builds and are in arms reach at the snap of the ball. It's strange when boiled down but it is easier for TE to block him than guards.

While the MIKE is a more natural fit for him than SAM. We need somebody to play it and we've ended up with a pretty interesting battle at starting LB even if it is for the first 4 weeks. Not only does an eventual third MLB need to be better than his opponents but he has the additional handicap of playing in Hitchens best spot. He has to make up for that difference as well. Good for him though that McClain is such an enigma. You need 3 guys that can play MIKE on the roster.

Brinkley seems to have instincts and is physical. He isn't as athletic as Lee. I really do not have any feel for him in coverage. The TC footage with all the ground level shots makes it difficult to see anything beyond him running from sideline to sideline. Tonight's game should be very revealing.

Wilber has had a very up and down career. Drafted as a 3-4 OLB by Rob Ryan, he barely played sparingly behind entrenched starters, before Kiffen and now Marinelli have taken over with their 4-3. Coaches then similarly tried to figure out what to do with him. That second year with the release of Ware and Spencer's leg, they started him out on the line and moved him to LB after Carter, Durant, Lee and the kitchen sink got hurt midseason.

He played well to end that year. I particularly remember him manhandling Hynoski, a decent FB, with the Giants in NY. You might recall that the defense had been quite awful to that point. I think GB was the week before and I may have had some relative bias but I was quite encouraged by his play. On the road in a meaningful late season game against a division rival is what it is.

He came back in last year and laid an egg. Looked stiff and slow during the preseason. He looked every bit that 4.7 he ran at the combine chasing guys. In pass defense his best attributes are jamming receivers and rushing the passer not running in space. Putting him in man is asking for trouble. He needs to find some of that 2013 magic.

Gachkar is new to me. I haven't taken the time to watch him play for the Chargers. The Chargers did have a decent defense and he made a good amount of tackles. He runs very well:

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=69980&draftyear=2011&genpos=OLB

So that is always a big plus in my book. He was hurt going into camp but I believe he is healthy now.

First watch, these are the guys I am going to pay most attention to tonight. I know the DL that are going to make it.
 

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I'd prefer to see Hitchens at MLB. If he's a stud the first 4 games, I say the position is his to lose. Why impede on the progress of Hitchens, a guy will we build our future around, so that we could make McClain, a knucklehead, happy for 12 games? I like McClain and he's easily a top 3 LBer, but Hitchens is more important to the future of our franchise. I say give Hitchens a chance to shine at MLB in McClain's absence. If he's so good that McClain doesn't get his job back, then so be it. That'll teach him to get suspended.
 

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I'd prefer to see Hitchens at MLB. If he's a stud the first 4 games, I say the position is his to lose. Why impede on the progress of Hitchens, a guy will we build our future around, so that we could make McClain, a knucklehead, happy for 12 games? I like McClain and he's easily a top 3 LBer, but Hitchens is more important to the future of our franchise. I say give Hitchens a chance to shine at MLB in McClain's absence. If he's so good that McClain doesn't get his job back, then so be it. That'll teach him to get suspended.

I absolutely get what your saying here...but it's hard to ignore the impact McClain had on this defense last year. In much the same way Demarco set a tone on the offensive side of the ball, Ro McClain set the tone on the other side of the ball. The passion he played and hit with had an impact on the rest of the defense; they fed off of it. I am just as sick and tired on his antics and off the field issues as anybody...but given what he provided last year, I can overlook the majority of it.
 

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I'd prefer to see Hitchens at MLB. If he's a stud the first 4 games, I say the position is his to lose. Why impede on the progress of Hitchens, a guy will we build our future around, so that we could make McClain, a knucklehead, happy for 12 games? I like McClain and he's easily a top 3 LBer, but Hitchens is more important to the future of our franchise. I say give Hitchens a chance to shine at MLB in McClain's absence. If he's so good that McClain doesn't get his job back, then so be it. That'll teach him to get suspended.

I'd rather they play Hitchens at his position if they can. Strong side LB.

But if Brinkley can't hang, move Hitchens in there.
 

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Wasn't Wilson getting some looks at SAM, too? He's a guy I'd like to see come on in preseason and displace Wilber. I know it's not his best fit, but if he really is a player like Hitchens was, it's a role he might be able to handle.
 

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I'd prefer to see Hitchens at MLB. If he's a stud the first 4 games, I say the position is his to lose. Why impede on the progress of Hitchens, a guy will we build our future around, so that we could make McClain, a knucklehead, happy for 12 games? I like McClain and he's easily a top 3 LBer, but Hitchens is more important to the future of our franchise. I say give Hitchens a chance to shine at MLB in McClain's absence. If he's so good that McClain doesn't get his job back, then so be it. That'll teach him to get suspended.

You're right about Ro, he is a top 3 LB. And he's only 25 so he's really not impeding any body's progress. With this D and the way we use LB's we need as many good ones as we can get. People complained about Ro last year being hurt, yet Carter, Lee, Durant amongst others all missed seasons, if not significant time!
 

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My top 3 linebacker, I'm assuming you guys mean on our team.
Yeah, McClain is that.
 

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You're right about Ro, he is a top 3 LB. And he's only 25 so he's really not impeding any body's progress. With this D and the way we use LB's we need as many good ones as we can get. People complained about Ro last year being hurt, yet Carter, Lee, Durant amongst others all missed seasons, if not significant time!

I'm not denying his talent or youth. And I'm not even too concerned about his injury history. Sean Lee makes him look like Iron Man. However, I'm most concerned about whether or not we can trust him. We got him on the cheap for the past 2 years because nobody in the league trusts him enough to make a commitment. I also don't foresee him getting a long-term offer after this year considering he's gonna miss at least 4 days for recently failing multiple drug tests. I don't trust that he's a long-term solution at MLB considering his very recent boneheadedness, which isn't helped by his awful reputation. So he's impeding on Hitchens' progress as our future MLBer. Hitchens may never be the player that McClain is. But that's irrelevant if McClain is gone next season. And I'd prefer to have a young, healthy, non-bonehead get playing time at his best position. I'm not saying let's move Hitchens to MLB. I'm saying that McClain shouldn't be rewarded the starting job when he comes back if Hitchens is lights out. It sends a bad message. Even La'el Collins wasn't handed the job and he chose to come here over 31 other teams.
 

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I'm not denying his talent or youth. And I'm not even too concerned about his injury history. Sean Lee makes him look like Iron Man. However, I'm most concerned about whether or not we can trust him. We got him on the cheap for the past 2 years because nobody in the league trusts him enough to make a commitment. I also don't foresee him getting a long-term offer after this year considering he's gonna miss at least 4 days for recently failing multiple drug tests. I don't trust that he's a long-term solution at MLB considering his very recent boneheadedness, which isn't helped by his awful reputation. So he's impeding on Hitchens' progress as our future MLBer. Hitchens may never be the player that McClain is. But that's irrelevant if McClain is gone next season. And I'd prefer to have a young, healthy, non-bonehead get playing time at his best position. I'm not saying let's move Hitchens to MLB. I'm saying that McClain shouldn't be rewarded the starting job when he comes back if Hitchens is lights out. It sends a bad message. Even La'el Collins wasn't handed the job and he chose to come here over 31 other teams.

Great post! I don't think he will be handed the starting spot should Hitch play lights out either, however I want the best players on the field at all times. What I am really excited about is the development of Hitch and seeing this Wilson kid tonight. If he is as advertised and as good, or better than Hitch, well then. :dance:
 

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Wasn't Wilson getting some looks at SAM, too? He's a guy I'd like to see come on in preseason and displace Wilber. I know it's not his best fit, but if he really is a player like Hitchens was, it's a role he might be able to handle.

Broaddus was gushing on Wilson this am on the radio, he said Eberflus is really impressed with him as well..
 

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Broaddus was gushing on Wilson this am on the radio, he said Eberflus is really impressed with him as well..

I hadn't heard that yet, but I'm not surprised. He's been nosing in that direction. I can understand why. He looks really good just from his college tape, and seems to be the right kind of guy. Hitting on another LB would be pretty big for us for next year and beyond.
 

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Great post! I don't think he will be handed the starting spot should Hitch play lights out either, however I want the best players on the field at all times. What I am really excited about is the development of Hitch and seeing this Wilson kid tonight. If he is as advertised and as good, or better than Hitch, well then. :dance:

Yeah, I wouldn't mind Wilson competing for the other starting spot while McClain is out.
 

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I'm not denying his talent or youth. And I'm not even too concerned about his injury history. Sean Lee makes him look like Iron Man. However, I'm most concerned about whether or not we can trust him. We got him on the cheap for the past 2 years because nobody in the league trusts him enough to make a commitment. I also don't foresee him getting a long-term offer after this year considering he's gonna miss at least 4 days for recently failing multiple drug tests. I don't trust that he's a long-term solution at MLB considering his very recent boneheadedness, which isn't helped by his awful reputation. So he's impeding on Hitchens' progress as our future MLBer. Hitchens may never be the player that McClain is. But that's irrelevant if McClain is gone next season. And I'd prefer to have a young, healthy, non-bonehead get playing time at his best position. I'm not saying let's move Hitchens to MLB. I'm saying that McClain shouldn't be rewarded the starting job when he comes back if Hitchens is lights out. It sends a bad message. Even La'el Collins wasn't handed the job and he chose to come here over 31 other teams.

Yes. Yes sir. I put change in your cup.
 

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I hadn't heard that yet, but I'm not surprised. He's been nosing in that direction. I can understand why. He looks really good just from his college tape, and seems to be the right kind of guy. Hitting on another LB would be pretty big for us for next year and beyond.

Can you imagine us hitting on middle round linebackers in back to back drafts? Oh how things have changed. I'm excited about and for Wilson.
 

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I hadn't heard that yet, but I'm not surprised. He's been nosing in that direction. I can understand why. He looks really good just from his college tape, and seems to be the right kind of guy. Hitting on another LB would be pretty big for us for next year and beyond.

Yeah, I've heard in a few places that Wilson looks really, really good. Read one write up where they said that Wilson looks like a better Hitchens. I also read that he was uber impressive with his instincts in college. And I know that Broaddus absolutely loves the guy.

I also read someplace recently that the question isn't will he be as good as Hitchens... the question is how much better than Hitchens is he going to be.

Everything is extremely positive regarding Wilson. I think he is going to be a really good player in this scheme.
 

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You don't have to imagine that. It will be a reality in a few weeks.

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Wasn't Wilson getting some looks at SAM, too? He's a guy I'd like to see come on in preseason and displace Wilber. I know it's not his best fit, but if he really is a player like Hitchens was, it's a role he might be able to handle.

I've read that they have him behind Sean Lee. Backup WILL is important for obvious reasons.
 

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The part about hitchens having short arms isn't true though. He's got 32.5 inch arms
 
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