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Yes without Larry we wouldn't have won 1 Superbowl back then I guess????
Yes without Larry we wouldn't have won 1 Superbowl back then I guess????
Agree with the OP.
That's why if Linderbaum is there, we just need to take him. Kinnard in the 2nd to move down to LG would also be an upgrade.
We could get bigger, stronger, better, and younger on the OL in one draft.
I've coached alot of high school OL, and I always made sure that my best were playing LT and Center. If you are good at those spots, you can get by with average play at the other three.
Ideally, athletes at LT and C with three big dudes at LG, RG, and RT.
I've got a little more faith in Farinoks upside because that jump is usually seen between rookie and second year.they both suck, let’s just summarize.
as far as Biadasz it was his first year starting and considering it wasn’t that bad. Especially having those two playing next to him.
but would gladly take the stud center at 24.
We managed 1 playoff with the Best Offline in the NFL and a young Zeke.......what exactly are you shooting for now????
Miracles ????????????
Looks very similar to the line Tony had with Murray.....hmmmmWe managed 1 playoff with the Best Offline in the NFL and a young Zeke.......what exactly are you shooting for now????
Miracles ????????????
Agree and I would be torn if Linderbaum and Johnson (BC kid) is there when we pick. Linderbaum is a stud at C from what I read but that is is only fit. Johnson can play all 5 positions and play them well. Would love to get both of them but that will never happen.I agree....center is a huge need for us
Select one -- then in subsequent round(s) choose a player at the other position to continue upgrading the OLine.Agree and I would be torn if Linderbaum and Johnson (BC kid) is there when we pick. Linderbaum is a stud at C from what I read but that is is only fit. Johnson can play all 5 positions and play them well. Would love to get both of them but that will never happen.
I'll ask Jerry and get back to you.....lolAnyone else heard the rumor that we might move Zach to LG so McGovern can go back to RG?
Nice write up.
If Linderbaum is there at our rd 1 pick, I don't see the team passing up on him and immediately improving the OL. Easy pick that has immediate impact.
Good observations. I felt the same thing watching the tape. The o line as a unit was inconsistent and played like it. An upgrade at center probably solidifies more issues than an upgrade at G. I feel like mcgovern with more work in the offseason can start at lg with tyron at LT and a good player at C.I'll start with my conclusion:
- I reviewed all of this snaps vs KC/Saints/Washington.
- If only 1 interior OL is added, I would prefer to upgrade OC and play McGovern at LG.
- Obviously an All Pro upgrade at both positions would be nice, but unlikely this season.
LG Connor Williams struggled with penalties and was replaced for 4 games by Connor McGovern.
- The overall OLine didn't improve during that time and Connor Williams regained the starting role.
I had said prior to the McGovern experiment that CM would not be an upgrade over CW.
- i.e. I was not 'Pro McGovern'.
- Having said that, it was the logical decision to try McGovern due to CW's penalty issues.
McGovern Game Footage
- McGovern was better than I remembered.
- His issues were primarily mental (technique/awareness/angles).
- He has 'good enough' power and athleticism.
- He managed to hold up to Chris Jones in the KC game on most snaps.
- There were a couple of snaps where Jones whipped him, but Chris Jones does that to many OLinemen.
- The bigger issue was the overall OLine.
- If CM or CW had played between prime years Tyron and Frederick, then they would have been OK.
- Instead the OC was Biadasz and LT Tyron was out for 6 games.
- Steele is good at RT but not at LT. Nsekhe is a career backup.
- Summary:
- He looked capable but tentative. Almost like a young QB that has ability but tends to panic.
- I'm somewhat surprised they didn't give him another start.
- They won 2 of the 4 games that McGovern started at LG including the final 2.
OL Coach
- It has come out this off-season that the OL coach favored CW over McGovern.
- It was a McCarthy decision to try McGovern.
- CW didn't have penalty issues until McCarthy and staff were hired.
- The Packers OL under McCarthy were known for a specific method of holding.
- This holding technique was against the rules but subtle enough to avoid excessive penalties.
- I think the OL coach supported Connor Williams because he is the one that taught him to hold.
- There have been articles about the Green Bay holding technique and sports talk discussions about it.
- GB's approach was similar to the Legion of Boom and their approach to penalties.
- Basically the LoB strategy was that eventually the Refs would give up calling penalties.
- The league requires refs to limit penalties to keep game times within limits.
I agree. We are definitely in the minority on that one.I dont think they draft Linderbaum if he is there. Does not fit their profile. Extremely short armed, zone blocking center.
I've got a little more faith in Farinoks upside because that jump is usually seen between rookie and second year.
I'd guess that Biadasz has peaked and he looks like a backup to me.....if you're planning to win that is.
It's a matter of if they want to have a clear upgrade immediately or risk it still being a problem in 2022.....and that's IF they even regard it as a problem. I have my doubts. I'm thoroughly convinced this FO cannot tell the difference between Dak Prescott and Aaron Rodgers.
Understand that I big time went to bat for this guy last Sep/Oct when many here wanted his head for garbage reasons.How has Biadasz peaked? This was his first full year starting in the NFL after a redshirt injured first year. Im not sure I have EVER seen a fan base so hard on a young player. Its like the guy got pushed back a few times in the Tampa game and everyone made up their minds that he sucks. With Tampa having some of the best DT's in the NFL and it being like the 3rd game he ever started in the NFL in his life and first of 2021. Its comical actually to think the kid has peaked.
I dont think they draft Linderbaum if he is there. Does not fit their profile. Extremely short armed, zone blocking center.
Understand that I big time went to bat for this guy last Sep/Oct when many here wanted his head for garbage reasons.
I really would love to think he is good enough....and he WAS early last season. I've said exactly that many times.
I have no idea what happened to him or why.
I'd love to know, but I also know it coincided with the entire offense heading south.