Game Observations...feel free to share after the game

THEHEREAFTER

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I thought we played with discipline and accountability tonight... not very many mental mistakes.. save the MB fumble

I think we can slowly start to see more blitzing from our LB's as the game went on... for whatever reason we looked extremely vanilla on the Sea.. scoring drive/no blitzing.. BP is slowly warming in the 3-4 building a foundation... our guys are starting to fly around on D..

We have depth @ RB .. D-line and LB..

Overall.. I'm very pleased with our progress. BP has just enough ammunition to stay hard on the team this week along with some encouraging signs..
 

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1) Ware = stud, got some licks in against the best OT in the game....and he's a rookie
2) If we think for a second that we'll be able to stick Tyson Thompson on the PS and still retain him, we're stupid
3) I LOVE our DL depth....we get Fergi and Spears back and wow, I don't really see a drop off on our DL even to the third string....Ratliff, Canty, Coleman, Glover, Fergi, Spears, Pepper, ....that's a phenomenal DL rotation! I'm thinking Carson is the odd man out.
4) Good pressure on the QB, good run stuffing. Secondary needs to get clued in.
5) I just don't see A-Train being able to offer us much of anything,...yes he's an upgrade over boy George, but I don't see him giving us any better running than Barber or Thompson and both MBIII and TT hit the hole faster.
6) BerryO, Bill Bates incarnate, took 4 quarters for Shmuck Michaels and Madden to pick up the resemblence, and yet they forget the jersey number significance. We have 3 safeties that can hit you BIGTIME, Roy, Davis, and BerryO
7) Crayton is an absolute stud. He's our new possession WR. Morgan...hasta la vista.
8) Romo is obviously farther along than Henson right now, but I still don't see Romo ever being more than a backup. Just doesn't seem to have starting caliber talent/potential. Henson isn't there yet, but it still looks like that if he ever gets comfortable, he'll be something special.
9) What is taking Henson and Bledsoe so long to get the snap from center? They are so slow, Romo seemed not to have that problem....***?
10) Overall, we do look like a team with a TON more talent than the last several years. Bledsoe is an obvious upgrade over VT and QC even if he does hold the ball and take sacks. If Pettiti continues his progression.....I like our Offense and I think we'll score more than 17 pts per game.
Our defense has guys in the backfield on every play. We contained one of the most elusive QBs in the league in Seneca very well. He's a lot faster and more agile than McFlabb even though McNothing is more likely to beat you with his arm. At least Mcnothing won't be able to get 15 seconds to find someone against us. I think we can compete with the igglets this year, esp if we learn to shut down 90% of their offense: the screen pass. I think our speed in Ware and Burnett, etc will handle it.
11) overall, yes we don't have all stars at every position, but we are a ton better than we were last year regardless of what our record indicates at the end of the season.
 

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dbair1967 said:
actually I disagree on most of these...

the offense clearly isnt in sync because the OL is playing poorly, period. I thought Bledsoe other than 1 or 2 passes looked good...

you'd trade Henson and Romo for Seneca Wallace? ***? Wallace looked like a practice squad guy out there today

Tucker and Vollers would be hard pressed to mae any team as even the last OL, they are both horrendous

Thomas looked solid on one drive, but looked like a scrub on another...he made a couple runs on the same drive that should have been 6-8-10 yd runs at the minimum into 1 or 2 yd gains...Barber's fumbling might be the only thing that saves Thomas a spot here

disagree on Ware, he got several pressures from the down DL spot...at the end of the game didnt get as many but it appeared he was really gassed...earlier in the game he was basically unblockable...but 3-4 OLB is definitely his best position IMO

David
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Crayton has the #3 position locked up period end of story. He gets open; he catches the ball (great hands). He made a 1st down with effort and leg drive showing off impressive leg strength; 2nd he fought of a hold made the catch and a penalty against the db nice. That catch coming across the lane was sweet a big play catch and sprinkle in a few more solid catches.

Berry-o was every where played great. He still needs to improve on making a play on the ball and closing the gap a little quicker between him the wr and the db; He shows the speed and agility to improve now it is a matter of learning; he will start by mid-season if he improves on making a play on the ball and not just the wr/te.

Concerns on defense getting a pass rush with out blitzing; yes ware was able to but no one else stepped up on that part other than on blitzes.
The other defense concern is the passing level between lb and safety. The safety tends to play to deep and the lb to shallow leaving a big hole.

CB a few got on Newman but ignored the fact henry was burned several times ;called for a penalty and missed a tackle. Both played of the wr by 8-10 yards and played so-so (ok I am being kind here)

The defense and the offense got lucky seattle still has wr and db's with hands of stone. Senca Wallace had two 1st downs and a td dropped and the offense had two int dropped. Plus a bunch of other drops by wr from seattle.

Oline seemed to pick up the blitz better but struggled with the stunts on the right side early in the game. We struggled early to get a push running until we started running left the 3 big runs came behing Flo and Allen the right side has to step it up to make the running game more effective.

Bledsoe is still erratic on his accuracy but no supprise there he is a career 57% QB. That worries me quite a bit is his accruacy; I can say he dumped it off better tonight and his should have been int was much like the Henson throw except he should have know better.
 

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Kangaroo said:
Crayton has the #3 position locked up period end of story. He gets open; he catches the ball (great hands). He made a 1st down with effort and leg drive showing off impressive leg strength; 2nd he fought of a hold made the catch and a penalty against the db nice. That catch coming across the lane was sweet a big play catch and sprinkle in a few more solid catches.

Had to tape the 2nd half, can't wait to see it. Sounds like Crayton did well.

Kangaroo said:
Berry-o was every where played great. He still needs to improve on making a play on the ball and closing the gap a little quicker between him the wr and the db; He shows the speed and agility to improve now it is a matter of learning; he will start by mid-season if he improves on making a play on the ball and not just the wr/te.

Same as comment above for Berry-O. Wish he was more of a FS though.

Kangaroo said:
Concerns on defense getting a pass rush with out blitzing; yes ware was able to but no one else stepped up on that part other than on blitzes.
The other defense concern is the passing level between lb and safety. The safety tends to play to deep and the lb to shallow leaving a big hole.

Agree, big area of concern. Maybe Burnett can get it done? Dat isn't an effective blitzer at all. Maybe James? Someone needs to step up, although with Glover and fergy rotating, Glover should be pretty fresh.

Kangaroo said:
CB a few got on Newman but ignored the fact henry was burned several times ;called for a penalty and missed a tackle. Both played of the wr by 8-10 yards and played so-so (ok I am being kind here)

I think our CB's will be fine. D needs some time to gel. I'm not worried here.

Kangaroo said:
Oline seemed to pick up the blitz better but struggled with the stunts on the right side early in the game. We struggled early to get a push running until we started running left the 3 big runs came behing Flo and Allen the right side has to step it up to make the running game more effective.

Hopefully Rivera can make a difference on the right when he comes back. We can't solely rely on the left side for the running game or we become WAY to predictable on offense.
 

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I'm not sure if I missed one but i think we just played a game with 0 false start penaltys.

:omg:
Larry Allen had 1 false start penalty.
 

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Mash said:
DL....no pass rush....other than Ware and Thorton....we did nothing.....Ellis got shoved around like a little school boy.

In the 3-4, it's the OLB who applies the QB pressure. Therefore, one would have to conclude that we had a very good pass rush out of this defense since both Ware and Thorton are the OLB's.
 
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What a game. Tonight we all got to see alot more of what we were expecting to see last week. Still a bunch of negatives, but overall, I think it safe to say most of us exhaled a long held sigh of relief. Some of the positives - in no particular order:

Bledsoe, while not a world beater by any means, looked far better tonight. Anyone notice the quicker release? BP is getting to him & it will only make us a better team.

Penalties were WAY down.

Ware is a serious candidate for DROY.

Petitti did a very good job tonight for a rookie.

The O-line was much improved tonight even playing w/o Rivera.

Crayton is going to ease many of our worries as far as wr is concerned.

Can't ask for any better from Cortez.

Singleton, while not a standout, is solid.

Our D played very well w/o Spears and Fergy.

Berry-O made the team tonight.

Romo looks way more comfortable than Henson.

The negatives:

Our secondary let us down but will improve as our D-line gels. We saw a fair amount of qb pressures tonight, but no way was that anywhere near our complete blitz package. I am VERY anxious to see what we show next weekend.

MB3 looked horrid. Need to see way better from him.
 

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I really fail to see the Bates comparison beyond them both being white and wearing the number 40.

Bates was great on special teams but he would make abot 2 plays a season as a dime safety. On that blitz up the middle Beriault made it to the QB with speed that Bates could only dream of.

Beriault is more like Roy Williams than he is Bates.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins said:
I really fail to see the Bates comparison beyond them both being white and wearing the number 40.

Bates was great on special teams but he would make abot 2 plays a season as a dime safety. On that blitz up the middle Beriault made it to the QB with speed that Bates could only dream of.

Beriault is more like Roy Williams than he is Bates.


Fuzzy ....... what about the way he hits people...a pretty good comparison to Bates. Comparing the speed you are absolutely correct.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins said:
I really fail to see the Bates comparison beyond them both being white and wearing the number 40.
Yeah, I agree.

Well, both hit hard, that's another similarity. But they really aren't the same player. Bates was the classic overacheiver whose best asset was his toughness, maybe even his craziness. Beriault is a much better, quicker athlete who is far rangier than Bates.

IMO Bates was more like a little bigger Keith Davis. I think Chief said it first, but Beriault reminds me of Michael Downs -- except Beriault might be more physical.
 

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Cbz40 said:
Fuzzy ....... what about the way he hits people...a pretty good comparison to Bates. Comparing the speed you are absolutely correct.

Keith Davis got in a few good licks, Roy Williams did as well. Alot of safeties get good hits.

One difference was that Bates was getting his licks on kick coverages and Beriault was doing it on defense and really I think comparing the two is a disservice to Beriaults athleticism.
 

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Funny how white players are only compared to other white players.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins said:
Keith Davis got in a few good licks, Roy Williams did as well. Alot of safeties get good hits.

One difference was that Bates was getting his licks on kick coverages and Beriault was doing it on defense and really I think comparing the two is a disservice to Beriaults athleticism.


OK you and CL convinced me. Comparing athleticism......Beriault far superior.
 

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Maybe I had a bad angle from the 12th row up from the 27-yard line, but I'm baffled by the comments that Romo looked better than Henson did. I was much more impressed by Henson than by Romo. In fact, the order of the quarterbacks in the game (Bledsoe, Henson, Romo) was the order in which I'd put their performances. I would have ranked them the same way from watching the warmups, too.

If the game hadn't been blacked out here (the Seahawks' fan support is lame), I'd be watching the tape right now to see what I might have missed. But I sure didn't see anything that impressive from Romo.

Oh, and Seneca Wallace? My goodness, even the drunk Seahawks fans around me could tell that he played horribly.
 

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Romo's drop is quicker and he seems to read the defense better and faster then Henson. I think Romo has a decently sized edge in the mental aspect of the game (as he should since he didn't sit out for 3+ years). Henson has the physical advantages but not all of them and they aren't by far (except for arm strength). Henson still looks lost, but I fully expect that out of him at this point in his development (considering he sat out for 3+ years).

If I had to evaluate which one had a better game, I'd say Romo, but not by much and it doesn't matter anyway since both of them played below average.


Edit: ANd I agree about Wallace. The guy was horrible. Didn't help that he was getting knocked on his a** pretty consistently though. :D
 

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* Beriault may be starting by the middle of the season.

That's right! Roy wil lbe back at FS! This sixth round pick will boot the Cowboys franchise player (if they had a franchise player).

The only way this kid sees the field is special teams and maybe nickel. If he can play FS then, maybe, but he is marginal right now to make the team. He hits well and is a great blitz'er, but he did screw the pooch in coverage a couple times tonite.

But I guess he is better than Roy, cause he will be starting by mid season.
 
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