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^^^ Sarcasm noted. And I agree. No way is Beriault starting this season unless someone gets hurt (*knock on wood*) or if he's moved to FS, cuz Roy is staying at SS.
 

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Romo's drop is quicker and he seems to read the defense better and faster then Henson. I think Romo has a decently sized edge in the mental aspect of the game (as he should since he didn't sit out for 3+ years). Henson has the physical advantages but not all of them and they aren't by far (except for arm strength). Henson still looks lost, but I fully expect that out of him at this point in his development (considering he sat out for 3+ years).

If I had to evaluate which one had a better game, I'd say Romo, but not by much and it doesn't matter anyway since both of them played below average.


Edit: ANd I agree about Wallace. The guy was horrible. Didn't help that he was getting knocked on his a** pretty consistently though. :D

Best. Analysis. Ever.
 

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One difference was that Bates was getting his licks on kick coverages and Beriault was doing it on defense and really I think comparing the two is a disservice to Beriaults athleticism.

DUDE! Were you watching when Bates was playing? It was like another linebacker in there on D. He was something special to watch on defense and special teams. This Beriault has a long way to go to live up to Billy Bates. He may not even make the team!

Next thing I will hear is that Romo is more athletic than Staubach because in the two quarters of preseason games he has played his career QB rating is better!

Don't get crazy and talk bad about Billy Bates! He wasn't a great player maybe, but he was a great Cowboy!
 

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AdamJT13 said:
Maybe I had a bad angle from the 12th row up from the 27-yard line, but I'm baffled by the comments that Romo looked better than Henson did. I was much more impressed by Henson than by Romo. In fact, the order of the quarterbacks in the game (Bledsoe, Henson, Romo) was the order in which I'd put their performances. I would have ranked them the same way from watching the warmups, too.

If the game hadn't been blacked out here (the Seahawks' fan support is lame), I'd be watching the tape right now to see what I might have missed. But I sure didn't see anything that impressive from Romo.

Oh, and Seneca Wallace? My goodness, even the drunk Seahawks fans around me could tell that he played horribly.

Very interesting where did I hear those words before?

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Things I noticed - Keith Davis looked MUCH more comfortable in this game than in the last. We saw little of him - and when it is a FS - that is a good thing. (Note - I missed the first quarter - if he was more there, I take it all back).

Bariault is good, but I seriously think his praises are getting out of hand here. He seems to be a poor man's Roy, not nearly as stacked physically, needs to be in the box even more than Roy, because his coverage is poor, and has knee problems. He had some big hits, sure. But that sack, while admirable, was more on Seattle than because of his skill - CBZ would have made that sack.

Barber, while he needs to hold the dang ball a little better, has some ability. I like him to give a breather to Julius.

I think Parcells held Thompson back to see how he would react. Should be interesting.

Regarding Crayton - CowboysFan02 and I would like to welcome you to the fan club. Grab a whiskey and enjoy the ride.

Polite - I like him. Before preseasion, I didn't think we would keep a FB unless someone looked a lot like Richie Anderson. Well...I now think we keep a FB.

Considering Rivera did not play and we don't have a RT on the roster, our line did much better than last week. Flozell was much more in the game this time, and Allen did a few things to excite me. Johnson was better this week, didn't get blown up that I noticed. That being said, the DL for Seattle is slightly undersized, or at least weak.

I am still not as concerned about the secondary as some others - more concerned about the ILB play in coverage situations. If we blitz Roy on some plays in zone coverage, the middle of the field will be hung out to dry. I like Dat, but that area is going to be much bigger than he is used to.

Kenyon Coleman is a MUCH better player in the 3-4. I like him now.

We played a LOT more 4-3 this game than last. And I am not talking about the nickel. think Parcells has some concerns, one being that Ware is not fully comfortable [yet] at OLB and our DL is light years better this year.

Singleton got beat in coverage on one play in the second, but other than that, remained solid. Burnett is a monster, but had an error here or there. I am much more comfortable with the LB situation now that I have seen two games, and there is NO WAY Singleton gets cut.

Condo was MUCH mroe consistent long snapping this week, but I still think Robinson stays on the roster. Now if he snaps with such consistency the next two games...I reserve the right to change that opinion.
 

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That's right! Roy wil lbe back at FS! This sixth round pick will boot the Cowboys franchise player (if they had a franchise player).

The only way this kid sees the field is special teams and maybe nickel. If he can play FS then, maybe, but he is marginal right now to make the team. He hits well and is a great blitz'er, but he did screw the pooch in coverage a couple times tonite.

But I guess he is better than Roy, cause he will be starting by mid season.

What would make you think he would be replacing Roy Williams rather than occupying the obvious open spot at FS? I didn't think I had to spell it out, but yes -- I am talking about at FS. Duh.

Take a deeeeeep breath, and look toward the open position NEXT to Roy Williams. The one currently held down by two undrafted players with not much more experience than Beriault, the rookie that outplayed both. Yes the FS position. Keith Davis and Lynn Scott are no more traditional FS types than Beriault. Beriault was put at SS to get him reps. Parcells can't line every safety not named Roy at FS and get them all on the field.

And he didn't "screw the pooch" in coverage any worse than any other guy manning the safety position for us tonight, including Roy.
 

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What would make you think he would be replacing Roy Williams rather than occupying the obvious open spot at FS? I didn't think I had to spell it out, but yes -- I am talking about at FS. Duh.

Take a deeeeeep breath, and look toward the open position NEXT to Roy Williams. The one currently held down by two undrafted players with not much more experience than Beriault, the rookie that outplayed both. Yes the FS position. Keith Davis and Lynn Scott are no more traditional FS types than Beriault. Beriault was put at SS to get him reps. Parcells can't line every safety not named Roy at FS and get them all on the field.

And he didn't "screw the pooch" in coverage any worse than any other guy manning the safety position for us tonight, including Roy.

I must disagree. The farther Bariault gets from the LOS, the more scared I become. The terrific hit on, I think it was the TE, he was too soft on the guy. By only a foot or so, but he was still a bit soft. Bariault is like Roy in coverage....but more like Roy. Think of Roy concentrated. His effectiveness diminishes at a radioactive rate of decay as he moves away from the LOS.
 

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Beriault isn't moving to FS. Period. If Parcells wanted him at FS he would of moved him there 2 weeks ago knowing he'd have more time to learn the position. He'll be Roy's backup at SS, and that's where he'll stay this season.
 

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Things I noticed - Keith Davis looked MUCH more comfortable in this game than in the last. We saw little of him - and when it is a FS - that is a good thing. (Note - I missed the first quarter - if he was more there, I take it all back).

Bariault is good, but I seriously think his praises are getting out of hand here. He seems to be a poor man's Roy, not nearly as stacked physically, needs to be in the box even more than Roy, because his coverage is poor, and has knee problems. He had some big hits, sure. But that sack, while admirable, was more on Seattle than because of his skill - CBZ would have made that sack.

Barber, while he needs to hold the dang ball a little better, has some ability. I like him to give a breather to Julius.

I think Parcells held Thompson back to see how he would react. Should be interesting.

Regarding Crayton - CowboysFan02 and I would like to welcome you to the fan club. Grab a whiskey and enjoy the ride.

Polite - I like him. Before preseasion, I didn't think we would keep a FB unless someone looked a lot like Richie Anderson. Well...I now think we keep a FB.

Considering Rivera did not play and we don't have a RT on the roster, our line did much better than last week. Flozell was much more in the game this time, and Allen did a few things to excite me. Johnson was better this week, didn't get blown up that I noticed. That being said, the DL for Seattle is slightly undersized, or at least weak.

I am still not as concerned about the secondary as some others - more concerned about the ILB play in coverage situations. If we blitz Roy on some plays in zone coverage, the middle of the field will be hung out to dry. I like Dat, but that area is going to be much bigger than he is used to.

Kenyon Coleman is a MUCH better player in the 3-4. I like him now.

We played a LOT more 4-3 this game than last. And I am not talking about the nickel. think Parcells has some concerns, one being that Ware is not fully comfortable [yet] at OLB and our DL is light years better this year.

Singleton got beat in coverage on one play in the second, but other than that, remained solid. Burnett is a monster, but had an error here or there. I am much more comfortable with the LB situation now that I have seen two games, and there is NO WAY Singleton gets cut.

Condo was MUCH mroe consistent long snapping this week, but I still think Robinson stays on the roster. Now if he snaps with such consistency the next two games...I reserve the right to change that opinion.

The first quarter might have shaded your opinions differently regarding Davis and Singleton. Seattle was basically playing pitch and catch all over the field. It was disgusting. Singleton had a couple of nice open field tackles that were definitely worthy of praise and Davis surprised me with a helluva hit on Jeramy Stevens. Other than that, their areas were open whenever Seattle wanted to throw in there. I don't know that it was always their fault, but some of it had to be. It happened too often.

With Singleton, it may come down to the vet salary guarantee. If Shanle can hold the fort til Burnette is ready, I'm not sure Singleton has a place here.

The line was OK. Seattle seems to have some good DTs but I don't think their DEs are much to consider despite the money they've paid out. I don't know how much Wistrom played, but I don't remember hearing his name. The other DE they signed from St. Louis was pretty much shut down by Petitti. I don't remember him doing anything either.
 

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I must disagree. The farther Bariault gets from the LOS, the more scared I become. The terrific hit on, I think it was the TE, he was too soft on the guy. By only a foot or so, but he was still a bit soft. Bariault is like Roy in coverage....but more like Roy. Think of Roy concentrated. His effectiveness diminishes at a radioactive rate of decay as he moves away from the LOS.

I guess I'm not seeing it. I look at Roy as being almost totally useless in coverage and making up for it by having mediocre range. Roy is down by Lynn Scott with respect to coverage skills.

Beriault has -- granted, from what i saw in one 2nd half of one game -- better range than any of our safeties other than Davis, who's only ahead by a hair. I didn't see coverage breakdowns from Beriault like I saw from Davis. And he's a much better tackler than Davis. It's second and third teamers, but Davis never displayed Beriault's skills when Davis was playing with the roster fodder last year.
 

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I completely agree with you Adam jt 13. It seems to me people aren't looking into the specifics of each pass, just the results. For example, Henson threw a couple high and away including the interception, but upon review it seems he is putting the ball in a spot to allow the reciever to make a play for the ball, I like this. I played WR and love the ball high and away. I also was very impressed with the short bullets, when he sets up and unloads it he has a phenominal release and great acuracy. I also payed close attention on third downs, Henson made clutch throws on third down that should have kept the drive going if not dropped. It also appeared that the WR's drops might have had something to do with being suprised by the velocity of his throws. I do agree that he needs to get out from under center quicker, I'm sure this will improve with more playing time. Other than the fact that Henson obviously needs more time developing as a young QB, I thought he was impressive. Superman? no, he's human, but give him time to get more comfortable reading defenses and his talents will produce. Romo looked comfortable and confident but his pass to Crayton hung a little, and would have been picked by starting DB's that can break on a ball, I saw this in his other passes as well. He looks more ready to be a safe pick at back up but that is all he will ever be, Henson will blow by him once he gets up to speed experience wise IMO. Berriault is a BALLER!
 

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Think we could get a bottle cap opener for him?

Actually, I'd rather keep my bottle cap opener. Further, I may be needing the opener if Quincy even sees the field.

How can a player get as far into this league as Morgan has and NOT know how to catch the ball..........mindboggling.
 

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dstew60105 said:
<<4. Romo is clearly the best backup QB...no question...I still say that's not saying much, but Henson looks like a career backup...I'd trade them both for Seneca Wallace.>.

Not that these guys are all world, but Seneca Wallace? Did you see him play tonight? I wouldn't trade Babe Laufenberg for him. I still find it funny about the comments about Henson. My God, it's his second training camp after starting 9 games in college. RELAX!!!


Don
you didn't like the way wallace moved his team around the field on us?..the passes he threw that were dropped? including a TD?...maybe 2?

Okay...I'm editing this now after reading the other posts...not one person agreed with me on Seneca Wallace, most thinking he played horribly...I guess I totally blew this one...I came away thinking I saw him getting the corner and running on us, hitting guys in the chest and hands with passes...I felt the only thing that stopped him most of the time were guys dropping the ball.

But I'll have to admit I must have been delirious, because when no one agrees, it's pretty safe to say I'm wrong....******.
 

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I think the Cowboys looked great! Since I'm here on this MB more than I am on the 'Hawks MB, I was far more educated about what players to look for -- that was a good feeling.

Ware showed me more than any oher player o the field ...his hussle, his drive, his relentlessness in pursuit was "off the hook!" Ware is a great pickup and will have a nice year stopping offensive plays in the regular season.

If your OL improves, the Cowboys should produce a solid running game, but if not, you'll end up being one-dimensional, and I don't know about other teams, but I know one team that will pick you apart. The OL needs some help or it will collapse when you need them most.

Your QB corp is unstable -- with the exception of Romo. He seemed to have something that looks unpolished but brilliant (kind of like a diamond in the rough). Beldsoe did not show up in my opinion and Drew was alright (luke warm).

KeShawn showed up and will also be factor.

I wanted the Cowboys to win but I would not have been bothered if they lost
(that's just a little thing called honesty).

The Cowboys looked far more impressive than the Skins or the Giants. Looks like you'll be the team we'll have to watch out for -- you and any other team we meet on the football (battle) field.

Good game.
 

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dstew60105 said:
What are you asking? Straight up for a ham sandwich?

Don

I doubt we'd get the bread to go with the ham...

what a waste of a trade that was...we'd been better off getting a 5th or 6th rd pick for Bryant than what we got

David
 

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AdamJT13 said:
Maybe I had a bad angle from the 12th row up from the 27-yard line, but I'm baffled by the comments that Romo looked better than Henson did. I was much more impressed by Henson than by Romo. In fact, the order of the quarterbacks in the game (Bledsoe, Henson, Romo) was the order in which I'd put their performances. I would have ranked them the same way from watching the warmups, too.

If the game hadn't been blacked out here (the Seahawks' fan support is lame), I'd be watching the tape right now to see what I might have missed. But I sure didn't see anything that impressive from Romo.

Oh, and Seneca Wallace? My goodness, even the drunk Seahawks fans around me could tell that he played horribly.

totally agree Adam...

Henson played ok...the int was either a bad throw or a bad read, but otherwise he performed well...he suffered from two bad drops that stopped drives, Morgans drop probably cost the team a TD...Romo threw a couple bad balls and was very fortunate to not have one or two picks...

Romo has good footwork and a pretty quick release, but doesnt have much of an arm at all and forces the ball too much...Henson needs another year and a better QB coach (in fact I think the whole offensive staff is substandard, just my opinion)...WR coach Haley has done a nice job with Crayton, but otherwise....

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From the not that anyone cares department.....I ran outside after the game last night to share my joy with the neighbors,tripped over an antique walk behind plow that my neighbor left on the sidewalk and broke my chin..blacked my eye.. scraped the skin off my nose..busted open my upper lip and my lower lip.... scraped the skin off from my shin from my knee cap to my ankle...I would like to claim my Cowboys Most Stupid Fan award as soon as possible......Go Cowboys :( :( :(
 

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1. Bledsoe looked ok. I think the game plan was pretty vanilla. No throwing downfield to Glenn.

2. Neither Romo or Henson lit it up. I thought Romo looked more comfortable out there and in the offense. But still, Henson has an obvious ability. I think it is fine if Romo is second string. Henson needs more practice and next year will be his real evaluation year. He needs to be pushing to start by next year.

3. Ware was certainly terrific. I thought his best play was the interception. You can't teach that kind of make up speed. He is very hard to handle rushing in the LBer position. I disagree that we was worthless with his hand on the ground. He showed some nice moves and I'm glad Parcells gave him lots of chances to rush the passer. He needs the work

4. A-Train is solid, especially between the tackles. He is no threat to get to the outside. I like MB3 better except for the fumble. That is a problem for him. With MB we can go inside or outside. I agree with others that Tyson Thompson has probably made the team and probably will be the first guy off the bench during the regular season and I would guess he gets some serious work next week. Oh and as for Julius. Some nice running. He makes it look very effortless. If he stays healthy, we will have an excellent run game.

5. I thought Kalen Thornton played pretty well. I wonder if he'll be moved to a place where he would have an opportunity to start sometime down the line.

6. Crayton looked very good. He looks much more polished this year.

7. I think Pettiti is making progress. He looks pretty solid run-blocking. Pass blocking needs a little work.

8. I think Berriault makes the team.

9. Under the surprise prediction dept., I think Crowder makes the team and Morgan gets cut.

10. I thought Ratliff looked pretty good. Solid at the point of attack and decent quickness when he got loose. Canty didn't seem to make a lot of plays, but I didn't watch him a lot. Looking forward to seeing Spears out there.

11. Aaron Glenn looked good.
 
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