News: Garrett speaks on why a QB wasn't drafted

[Super_Kazuya]

I would laugh if I weren't crying at the sheer stupidity of these idiots

Don't worry, we're always laughing at your football "knowledge".

 

[visionary]

Don't worry, we're always laughing at your football "knowledge".

Come clean now ....... You're a jones right ?

No one is really this blind

 

[StylisticS]

Tony Romo's cap hit is $27M in 2015. No one is "pushing him off the roster" unless half the roster is going with him to make up for all of the dead money. That's why there was never any chance at all Jerry was going to draft Manziel - Jerry is already all in with Tony, for better or worse.

Because he had no choice with that cap hit right. Since that cap hit is in 2015, I would not be surprised if Dallas gets a qb in 2015 no matter what they say.

 

[visionary]

"And by 'more than half the fanbase' I mean '20-30 guys on the internet."

I would conservatively estimate that 80%+ cowboy fans that actually pay attention would vote 'no' if asked the question: do you think the cowboys will win a SB with Garrett

Excluding the usual 2% fringe Garrett groupies of course

No one in their right mind actually believes that Garrett is a great or even good HC

 

[cml750]

I would conservatively estimate that 80%+ cowboy fans that actually pay attention would vote 'no' if asked the question: do you think the cowboys will win a SB with Garrett

Excluding the usual 2% fringe Garrett groupies of course

No one in their right mind actually believes that Garrett is a great or even good HC

I agree!!! There some however who think that their fan card will be revoked if the do not blindly support everything that the Cowboys and their coach do no matter how inept he has proven to be.

 

[Fletch]

I have a feeling that Weeden will wind up as our starting QB next year to open the 2015 season.

Dude, I hope you are so wrong on that. Weeden is no more than a career backup. His age alone makes me cringe. Next year WE MUST DRAFT ROMO'S REPLACEMENT at some point, and not in rounds 6 or 7.

 

[Dodger12]

Nevertheless, in terms of long term value, you are right that the developmental QB has more value if you assume that 3rd string developmental QB will work out. The reality is the odds aren't that good of developing a top tier starter out of a mid to low draft pick 3rd string QB, so it's not as if that 3rd kicker was taking away some golden opportunity that was sure to pay dividends. Of course, you could always start this developmental QB on the practice squad, in which case he doesn't need a roster spot.

The final point I would make is that I think it's completely false to suggest that a 3rd kicker or an extra special teamer, or a rotational D-Lineman or anyone else is responsible for keeping the team from getting a 3rd team developmental QB. If the team felt a strong need to get that guy they would have done it, whether it meant not carrying the 3rd kicker or an extra player in another spot. You can argue all you want about whether the team is right or wrong in not getting that 3rd string developmental QB, but that doesn't change the fact that the reason they didn't do it is about them not feeling it's a priority and not because they refuse to find a way to spare a player at another position.

You're right in that the team obviously doesn't feel like it's a priority and it should be. A guy like Aaron Murray (who I was hoping we'd draft late as a developmental guy) can't be stashed on the practice squad no more than Moore or Tanney could be. KC drafted Murray and they have Smith who took them to the playoffs and Chase Daniels who was a FA. Reid did the same thing with Kolb in Philly and he had McNabb and Feley as the back-up. Although it didn't work out with Kolb he was traded for decent player and a second round pick and Foles was drafted a year later. This is how good teams like the Pack, SF, Seattle and even NE operate. Heck, even Romo himself was a product of a good plan and even if we didn't feel he was the guy back then, teams offered us quality draft picks to trade for him.

How Garrett or Jones think a 30 year old QB is a developmental guy is beyond me. Even if he should start in 2 years we'll be looking to replace him (or at least should be) based on his age alone. I'm a Romo fan and will be until the guy hangs it up. But I don't know how this fan base buys what Jerry is selling that Romo can play another several years. The odds are completely against that happening.

 

[Idgit]

I would conservatively estimate that 80%+ cowboy fans that actually pay attention would vote 'no' if asked the question: do you think the cowboys will win a SB with Garrett

Excluding the usual 2% fringe Garrett groupies of course

No one in their right mind actually believes that Garrett is a great or even good HC

Would you? Nice to have that handy framework for what you consider a conservative estimate. Of course, people eat at McDonalds and used to watch American Idol, too, so I'm not sure popular vote is the right way to go about getting an answer to a question that actually requires basic analysis of a relatively complex equation.

And, of course, the suggestion that was made wasn't that most fans want Jason Garrett fired. It was that more than half of the fans couldn't take him seriously on the rationale for why a QB was not drafted.

 

[Idgit]

I agree!!! There some however who think that their fan card will be revoked if the do not blindly support everything that the Cowboys and their coach do no matter how inept he has proven to be.

Do they? This is very interesting and bears some careful thought on my end. I hadn't occurred to me that I was really only worried about my fan card.

 

[cml750]

Do they? This is very interesting and bears some careful thought on my end. I hadn't occurred to me that I was really only worried about my fan card.

Careful, Jerry is like Santa. He is making a list and checking it twice. If you are naughty and say something negative you will get a lump of coal and have your fan card revoked!!!

 

[Idgit]

Careful, Jerry is like Santa. He is making a list and checking it twice. If you are naughty and say something negative you will get a lump of coal and have your fan card revoked!!!

They can have my fan card. From my cold dead hands. I get my lumps of coal from having to read some of the posts on this board after a loss.

 

[maxdallasfan]

When was the last "developmental QB" who ever amounted to anything?

It doesn't exist.

 

[cml750]

They can have my fan card. From my cold dead hands. I get my lumps of coal from having to read some of the posts on this board after a loss.

Idgit, I have to give you credit. You are a good diehard fan. You are almost always positive no matter what. I wish I could be like that. I also give you credit for the time you spend working this sight as a mod. Almost anytime day or night I see your name listed as one of the mods on line. That is dedication and I thank you. Are you married??? My wife gripes anytime I spend over 30 minutes on the computer on the internet. Of course sometimes I just tune her out especially during the season and around draft time.

 

[Idgit]

Idgit, I have to give you credit. You are a good diehard fan. You are almost always positive no matter what. I wish I could be like that. I also give you credit for the time you spend working this sight as a mod. Almost anytime day or night I see your name listed as one of the mods on line. That is dedication and I thank you. Are you married??? My wife gripes anytime I spend over 30 minutes on the computer on the internet. Of course sometimes I just tune her out especially during the season and around draft time.

I've got a job where I'm chained to a laptop. And I'm married to a very understanding woman. One who doesn't want me around all that much.

 

[wileedog]

Because he had no choice with that cap hit right. Since that cap hit is in 2015, I would not be surprised if Dallas gets a qb in 2015 no matter what they say.

I wouldn't either. But Romo is the starter for the next 2 seasons, barring injury, based on cap numbers alone. After 2015 it becomes a heck of a lot easier to let him go, and I believe we will be about $30M under the cap that year so we can afford to eat some money.

But there was still no way Jerry would have or should have drafted a media magnet like Manziel to sit on the bench for at least 2 whole years just to have his name being chanted in the stands every time Romo threw an incomplete pass.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Tony Romo's cap hit is $27M in 2015. No one is "pushing him off the roster" unless half the roster is going with him to make up for all of the dead money. That's why there was never any chance at all Jerry was going to draft Manziel - Jerry is already all in with Tony, for better or worse.

And yet so many fail to grasp this concept.

No team in the NFL gives their QB a $100 million dollar contract and turns around and drafts a QB in the first round the very next season.

 

[IAmLegend]

"Developmental guy"


Weeden is turning 31 years old in October... The only thing he is developing is a retirement speech.

 

[IAmLegend]

With that said, I'm glad we didn't draft a QB this year. Next year's class is much richer, and I'd love to use our 1st rounder next year on a QB worthy of it.

Winston, Mariota, Hundley, Petty, Mannion.. it's going to be a solid class.

 

[Sasquatch]

Why does the front office love former pitchers at QB?

They have all the right tools?

 

[cml750]

And yet so many fail to grasp this concept.

No team in the NFL gives their QB a $100 million dollar contract and turns around and drafts a QB in the first round the very next season.

While I agree with you, as I usually do, the one X-factor that was not taken into consideration when they gave Romo his big contract was the back issues. Back problems are usually the beginning of the end for athletes especially ones in their 30's. That is why I would have taken a chance on Manziel especially since o-line was not a real need and our defensive targets were gone. The draft is the only way to get another possible franchise QB when you have that much tied up in another one. As one of his biggest fans, I truly hope Romo is an exception and returns 100% from his injury but speaking from experience from back issues, I have my doubts for the first time ever during Romo's career.