News: Garrett speaks on why a QB wasn't drafted

[Kalyan]

And this is why people are so worried about the post Romo years.

We are doing everything else right for the team, building the trenches, receivers and other skill positions. We will be wasting a lot of good team prime trying to find a decent QB (look how the AZ cardinals are going through).

I don't like this spin about developing a QB and the guy playing for another team. So if weeden is the development guy, after developing him for 3-4 years, he is ready to retire instead of playing for another team?

Romo is 34 with bad back, you need to select a QB in 2-3 rounds and let him learn for 1-2 years. Jerry is doing the same thing he did when Aikman was about done, trying to have one last hurray with the QB instead of realizing the window is gone

 

[Western]

If it is about winning playoff games & winning a superb bowl or super bowls it requires synergy.
Possessing a young, talented, aggressive team with a positive upside along with a youthful gifted QB.
For optimal recognition both of those traits occur simultaneously.

Yet, with Romo's age and health issues (which can effect his on the field performance ~ can he set his feet properly, deliver the ball with velocity and accuracy, stay within the pocket and avoid the 'happy feet' syndrome, etc.) combined with the uncertain production of a youthful team, the probability of Dallas being very competitive in the 2014/15 post-season, given that Romo' skill set has plateaued, if not in decline, is unlikely.

Notwithstanding a potential complete overhaul of the coaching staff next season, acquiring a new young QB should be a priority.
If and when the youthful team becomes a competitive spirited aggressive unit, especially on the defensive side of the ball, Dallas should have on the roster a new QB.
The question is ~ will the new QB be a promising effective leader for the team?

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I don't think the issue is so much Weeden's age, it's that he was already brought in to be developed, failed miserably under 2 different coaching staffs and could be ruined forever.

I know there is money involved, but I think any owner that starts a rookie QB is foolish. For every QB that it works for, there are probably 10 QB's that it would be the worst thing to happen for them. Even with Russell Wilson, he's not a great QB and Seattle won because of an incredible defense and a solid running game. Wilson was good at avoiding negative plays and making the occasional spectacular play, but that was about it.

I've just never seen a QB that was a bust and said 'gee, if only he had not rode the pine his rookie year, he would have been great.'

To me, there is too much for QB's to learn and adjust to for them to start right away. They have to learn a new playbook, protections, shifts and the defensive coverages, stunts and blitze. They have to get used to the speed of the game, will likely have to work on refining their body to absorb the punishment of the league and likely have a few issues with their throwing mechanics. If you start them right away, they are likely to struggle badly in a few of these areas and neglect them because they are trying to survive out there. And once they lose their confidence, it's probably gone for good.

So to me, the issue isn't Weeden's age...it's that he is likely ruined for good by the Browns.





YR

 

[Idgit]

This is why more than half of the fan base can't take Jason Garrett seriously.

"And by 'more than half the fanbase' I mean '20-30 guys on the internet."

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't think the issue is so much Weeden's age, it's that he was already brought in to be developed, failed miserably under 2 different coaching staffs and could be ruined forever.

I know there is money involved, but I think any owner that starts a rookie QB is foolish. For every QB that it works for, there are probably 10 QB's that it would be the worst thing to happen for them. Even with Russell Wilson, he's not a great QB and Seattle won because of an incredible defense and a solid running game. Wilson was good at avoiding negative plays and making the occasional spectacular play, but that was about it.

I've just never seen a QB that was a bust and said 'gee, if only he had not rode the pine his rookie year, he would have been great.'

To me, there is too much for QB's to learn and adjust to for them to start right away. They have to learn a new playbook, protections, shifts and the defensive coverages, stunts and blitze. They have to get used to the speed of the game, will likely have to work on refining their body to absorb the punishment of the league and likely have a few issues with their throwing mechanics. If you start them right away, they are likely to struggle badly in a few of these areas and neglect them because they are trying to survive out there. And once they lose their confidence, it's probably gone for good.

So to me, the issue isn't Weeden's age...it's that he is likely ruined for good by the Browns.





YR

True same could be said for Colin Kaepernick amongst starting QB him and Wilson threw the fewest passes, their teams are not asking them to carry the team they both have solid running games and very good defense. Same could be said with RGIII in his rookie year where Washington used their running game and had RGIII throw sparingly. Last season RGIII pass attempt went up and his numbers fell.

Many young QB or inexperienced QB are not ready to be thrown into the mix and forced to carry the offense.

 

[wileedog]

It's simple. The FO believes in Romo. If you get JM, he's going to push Romo off the roster and that's not what they want. I hope they made the right choice.

Tony Romo's cap hit is $27M in 2015. No one is "pushing him off the roster" unless half the roster is going with him to make up for all of the dead money. That's why there was never any chance at all Jerry was going to draft Manziel - Jerry is already all in with Tony, for better or worse.

 

[Dodger12]

I happens. I remember the Giants doing it a few years - I can't remember who the kick off specialist was. Anyone, I'm not arguing that the Cowboys shouldn't have found a way to either get a kicker with a stronger leg or a punter who could also handle kickoff duties, I'm just saying it's easier to use a roster spot on someone that will see the field than one who has virtually no chance of seeing the field.

We'll agree to disagree. I don't place the value of a 3rd kicker (who shouldn't even be on the roster) anywhere near that of a back-up and/or a developmental QB, especially when your starter is on the tail end of his career and will start the season with some question marks about his health.

 

[rpntex]

I'm interesting in seeing Weeden this pre season, I understand he is 30 I also understand he does not have the same wear on him as QB at that age.

Weeded entered the NFL at the age of 28.

So did Roger Staubach. Just sayin'...you never know until you do. And right now, we haven't had time to know.

 

[Doomsday101]

Weeded entered the NFL at the age of 28.

So did Roger Staubach. Just sayin'...you never know until you do. And right now, we haven't had time to know.

Sure and I'm not comparing the 2 talent wise but face it would you want to be a QB drafted by a team who is already competing for championships as Roger was or go to a lousy team like Cleveland as Weeden did. I hope he uses this chance to regain some confidence.

 

[rpntex]

Weden was a questionable prospect coming out of college, did some good things at osu, but has plenty of question marks. Everyone knew how good staubach was going to be.

The only questions about Weeden coming out of college were age-related. His ability was not in question. He had all the measurables, and could make all the throws.

Staubach, on the other hand, was a much more questionable situation. Nobody, and I mean nobody, had a clue as to how good he would be after dour years away from the game. Aside from a few weeks each year during training camp, Staubach didn't touch a football from the fall of 1964 to the fall of 1968.

 

[casmith07]

Should have just given the safety answer: "we like where we are at quarterback."

Or just said: "Tony Romo" and dropped the mic.

 

[OmerV]

We'll agree to disagree. I don't place the value of a 3rd kicker (who shouldn't even be on the roster) anywhere near that of a back-up and/or a developmental QB, especially when your starter is on the tail end of his career and will start the season with some question marks about his health.

First, when we had that 2nd kicker (not 3rd - the punter is a different animal) Romo wasn't on the tail end of his career, so that argument doesn't apply. You can't apply that scenario several years ago as if it is the excuse for not having a developmental guy now. Besides, when we had that 2nd kicker didn't we have a developmental 3rd string QB in McGee?

Nevertheless, in terms of long term value, you are right that the developmental QB has more value if you assume that 3rd string developmental QB will work out. The reality is the odds aren't that good of developing a top tier starter out of a mid to low draft pick 3rd string QB, so it's not as if that 3rd kicker was taking away some golden opportunity that was sure to pay dividends. Of course, you could always start this developmental QB on the practice squad, in which case he doesn't need a roster spot.

The final point I would make is that I think it's completely false to suggest that a 3rd kicker or an extra special teamer, or a rotational D-Lineman or anyone else is responsible for keeping the team from getting a 3rd team developmental QB. If the team felt a strong need to get that guy they would have done it, whether it meant not carrying the 3rd kicker or an extra player in another spot. You can argue all you want about whether the team is right or wrong in not getting that 3rd string developmental QB, but that doesn't change the fact that the reason they didn't do it is about them not feeling it's a priority and not because they refuse to find a way to spare a player at another position.

 

[cml750]

A QB was not drafted because the have doubled down on Romo's health. I certainly hope they win that gamble however as a person who has had the same injury and surgery as Romo, I do not like the odds.

 

[CF74]

Ok you guys are looking at this all wrong. How many vet backup QB's have we seen thru the years come in behind the starter and light the world on fire for several games or even go on a run? Many..

Weeden comes to town in the perfect scenario:
A) Solid O-line (Check)
B) Tons of weapons (Double Check)

Sometimes players just need a change of scenery, we all know back in Cleveland that team around him was garbage, at least offensively he's coming into a stacked house.. Dude will excel in these conditions, especially if he gets some time which he will, in training camp....

 

[Ashwynn]

well hell. I'm almost 50, give me a 5 year contract and I bet they could develop me too.

A 30 year old Chad Hutchinson...Great! I hope he is never needed except in the 55-0 Washington games with 3:00 left to mop up by handing the ball to DeMarco.

 

[Ashwynn]

Ok you guys are looking at this all wrong. How many vet backup QB's have we seen thru the years come in behind the starter and light the world on fire for several games or even go on a run? Many..

Weeden comes to town in the perfect scenario:
A) Solid O-line (Check)
B) Tons of weapons (Double Check)

Sometimes players just need a change of scenery, we all know back in Cleveland that team around him was garbage, at least offensively he's coming into a stacked house.. Dude will excel in these conditions, especially if he gets some time which he will, in training camp....

Good points, and I do like the fact our back up has actually played in an NFL game before, starting said game is a bonus. Only problem, I don't know that he ever played well in a game before.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Good points, and I do like the fact our back up has actually played in an NFL game before, starting said game is a bonus. Only problem, I don't know that he ever played well in a game before.

He actually played acceptably (for a rookie) most of his first season. I believe his yardage total was among the best ever in a rookie campaign. Unfortunately, he took a step back last year, which is worrisome. Still, I wouldn't bother listening to the negative nellies around here's opinion of him. Most of them don't even watch our games, they sure as heck aren't going to sell me they are watching Cleveland games. Let's see what he can do.

 

[Deep_South]

I saw Weeden play a couple of games last year, and his problem - from my limited perspective - seems to be he just can't handle pressure well. I would much rather have Orton, but there is something hinky going on with him right now, and the Cowboys are doing a pretty good job of keeping a lid on whatever it might be.

In any case, Weeden combined with a dominating OL, backs that can pick up blitzers, and some appropriate play-calling could be a good combination to scratch out a few wins if Romo and Orton are not available for some reason.

 

[visionary]

a 30 year old developmental guy.

I would laugh if I weren't crying at the sheer stupidity of these idiots

 

[visionary]

He actually played acceptably (for a rookie) most of his first season. I believe his yardage total was among the best ever in a rookie campaign. Unfortunately, he took a step back last year, which is worrisome. Still, I wouldn't bother listening to the negative nellies around here's opinion of him. Most of them don't even watch our games, they sure as heck aren't going to sell me they are watching Cleveland games. Let's see what he can do.

Uncle Jerry needs his glasses cleaned