Garrett: we don’t use those numbers during a game

LovinItAll

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46 - how many did NE try from about that distance? I think 2 against the wind after we missed ours.

The kick that hit the upright? You thought that was a bad call at that point in the game?

AGAIN: The blocked punt cost us the game.
 

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He is taking heat for that call... but that was not why we lost. There are a lot more culprits to prosecute and by focusing on that call— we are actually burying the lead

The real story is why this team is flat and unprepared and starts big games so slowly?

Why are our special teams the worst in the NFL and what is his plan to fix it?

Why does this team continue to make the same mental mistakes?

Why is his record against quality competition abysmal?

What exactly is the “Garrett process” and when should the fruits of that process be evident?

Garrett asked by rest of media just now about not using in-game analytics: "Just not something we think is best for our team. Thats just our approach. Different people have different approaches." @1053thefan @rjchoppy

His philosophy also doesn't prepare his team to start out games aggressively, or to maintain momentum if there is any.
 

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The kick that hit the upright? You thought that was a bad call at that point in the game?

AGAIN: The blocked punt cost us the game.

The blocked punt and then fumble gave New England 10 of their points to start the game, before it was really started for Dallas.

Two poor calls on 3rd downs, killed more than penalties called comparisons. Tripping for Frederick and Martin...you bet.
 

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A genius blessed with a Princeton graduate mind doesn't need analytics. He calculates all these "numbers" himself, solely on memory alone during the game.
 

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The kick that hit the upright? You thought that was a bad call at that point in the game?

AGAIN: The blocked punt cost us the game.

I did not say that was a bad call. Are you saying it was? I did not watch warm-ups and kicks from that distance - did you?

As a coach I would base my decision on the kicker in warm-ups in those conditions.

I was just saying that Belichick made the same call twice in that game.
 

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On 105.3 the fan. Jason Garret was asked about the odds of winning a game, based on analytics, between kicking the last FG or going for it on 4th.

Garret said “we don’t use those numbers during the game”.


I am not the type of person that believes analytics are everything and they are the end all be all. I don’t think you always go with the analytics numbers, because opponent and flow of the game are just as important.

That being said, they don’t use them at all during the game? They don’t at least factor those things in when making the decisions?


That is asinine.


JG "we also don't use those tablet doo hickeys on the sidelines, we just go off memory."

Radio Guy "but Jason we see the players with the tablets all the time on the sidelines."

JG "yeah they have them but we don't allow them to turn them on, we use them to cover our mouth so the other team can't read our lips."

JG "here's some other things I refuse to use, turn by turn navigation, wifi, tv remotes and online shopping".
 

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This is the same guy who hired Dave Campo to be head coach, got fleeced in a trade for Roy Williams, coveted Johnny Manziel, and agonized over a failed trade attempt for Paxton Lynch.

Just keep trusting that ol' gut, Jerry. Maybe all JG needs is another year? :rolleyes:
 

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The guy that preaches execution doesn't believe practicing in the poor conditions had any effect on the winning team executing better.

The ****ery needs to stop.


How did it help New England and they practiced in it. They were outgained and had issues as well with the weather. It hindered both teams
 

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I did not say that was a bad call. Are you saying it was? I did not watch warm-ups and kicks from that distance - did you?

As a coach I would base my decision on the kicker in warm-ups in those conditions.

I was just saying that Belichick made the same call twice in that game.

No, I'm not saying it was a bad call. I thought it was fine. I certainly don't think we punt from there, and I don't think going for it would've been a good call.
 

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How did it help New England and they practiced in it. They were outgained and had issues as well with the weather. It hindered both teams
Well we did muff two balls and three a pick without gloves that he should and would have known he needed if they practiced in the rain
 

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He also said. The cowboys practiced inside on Thursday and Friday. Despite knowing the conditions would be terrible during the game.


Garret is a freaking clown.
If I recall correctly the weather outside was beautiful. Not sure it would have made a difference?
 

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Whatever. They made the right call for that point in the game. They go for it and fail you guys would whine about not getting points.
Yea, it’s all about second guessing decisions that don’t work. It’s called Monday Morning QB.

Every team and all fans do it. If it works is brilliant. If not Idiots. Lol

Fans always want to go for it on 4th down. If you don’t think you can get it on 4th and 7 you take the points and live for the next possession.

I would have preferred to go for it. But it wasn’t my call. If we go down and score the TD on last possession then it’s to win the game not to force OT.
 

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Well we did muff two balls and three a pick without gloves that he should and would have known he needed if they practiced in the rain
In those conditions the smartest thing to do in traffic is not field the ball.
 

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The flip side is this offense hadn't gotten in the red zone all game prior to that so what made you think they could do that on back to back drives? Further, the main point is that Garrett just admitted they basically eschew most, if not all, statistical analysis that shows probabilities of success/failure in that situation. In an NFL were data has become an advantage for some teams, Garrett just said we don't bother with it and basically go with his gut.

That's horrendous.

And as noted by some analysts, if you understand the data, the reality is that a coach worth his salt understands he has two plays to get seven yards starting on third down, so he can run the ball, for example, pick up 5 yards possibly, and put himself in a way more manageable 4th down situation.

It was just another example of conservative Garrett.
Everything is over analyzed . I agree with going with your gut.
 
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