Gathers is an absolute Beast and smooth as Silk

[buybuydandavis]

And we have never been good with two TEs, despite wanting that part of our scheme for years. With Witten gone, it's time we get that going.

Ironically, just as we finally moved on from having a "True #1 WR", we also don't have the TEs to pick up the slack. Two TEs would get more balls when you don't have that True #1 to feed the ball to. Working two TEs would really make a lot of sense with our apparent move to cheaper WRs.

But this year, Beasley is at least our 2nd best receiving weapon, and should be on the field, while our TEs are nobodies. I'm hoping for 3 wides and 0 TEs as our base, or maybe some Jarwin at FB/TE.

 

[buybuydandavis]

but according to some if he is doesn't turn out to be a great TE its Garrett's fault, not gathers....

Coaches coach. Trainers train. It's their job to develop their players. And to motivate them.

They should have sat Rico down from day one and gave him a development plan. Which should have started with "learn how to block". From all the evidence I've seen, that didn't happen.

That's their job. If they do their job and he doesn't turn into a great TE, it's not on them. If you don't do your job, that's on you.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Coaches coach. Trainers train. It's their job to develop their players. And to motivate them.

They should have sat Rico down from day one and gave him a development plan. Which should have started with "learn how to block". From all the evidence I've seen, that didn't happen.

That's their job. If they do their job and he doesn't turn into a great TE, it's not on them. If you don't do your job, that's on you.

so you are saying the coaches didn't give him a development plan? and they didn't try to teach him how to block? and because Rico sucks at it...its the coaches fault because God knows Rico is the best athlete ever and he was menat to be the GOAT TE..... right?

how do you know they didn't? from everything I have read, the TE coaches have been coaching him and they have been giving him ample opportunities...so you don't think there is a chance that Rico just sucks...just like so many other 6th or 7th round FOOTBALL players who never made it in the NFL.....

 

[Section446]

Won't make the team.

 

[KeepinTime]

With the exception of the catch/fumble at :31, here are all of Rico's plays from last preseason. Let's not act like none of this happened.

Not sure who that is at :31 but he needs to hold onto the ball!

I’m pretty sure it was Noah Brown with the fumble.

 

[Bleu Star]

I’m pretty sure it was Noah Brown with the fumble.

Yeah. I guess they included it because Rico was the one that recovered it.

 

[mattjames2010]

Witten did not "hog" the snaps, he got passes thrown to him much of the time because he was open and the other receivers weren't. Never saw anything or heard anybody on the Cowboys say Witten was a selfish player, which someone who hogs the snaps by definition is.

But that's fine, now he's gone, when Dak gets buried under the rush or has to run for his life or throws to a tightly covered receiver & an interception or incompletion is the result, because NOBODY is open, then I guess somebody else will be blamed for "hogging the snaps"...

No, he hogged snaps. He obviously could not run any longer, and yet he still was on the field too much. The guy had 8 yards a catch last year. He was no longer a threat anywhere.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

still was on the field too much.

Coaches decide the lineup, I seriously doubt even he was in the position to put himself in the lineup. And that goes against every thing we've ever heard, read or seen about Witten. He was a team player, think he liked having to stay in and block as much as he did when the o-line was struggling? Don't catch as many passes when you're tied up blocking a DE on the line of scrimmage. He did what he was asked to.

But if that's true, I'd have to have some support for that from somebody, and again I seriously doubt anybody connected with the Cowboys would do that.

 

[G2]

No, he hogged snaps. He obviously could not run any longer, and yet he still was on the field too much. The guy had 8 yards a catch last year. He was no longer a threat anywhere.

I get that he was at the end of his career, but it's not accurate that he "hogged snaps."
The OC puts the offensive scheme in place and the plays are called. He was still a threat and a great leader.

The main issue is that we didn't have anyone who was a better TE.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

I get that he was at the end of his career, but it's not accurate that he "hogged snaps."
The OC puts the offensive scheme in place and the plays are called. He was still a threat and a great leader.

The main issue is that we didn't have anyone who was a better TE.

Exactly!

 

[Bullflop]

Blocking of the TEs in Dallas is something that has traditionally been required throughout the years. There's certainly an element of doubt if Rico would be retained if he can't block in the manner that the Dallas staff expects him to. Even Rico acknowledges that he hasn't been able to. We'll see if that changes or not. Will his receiving skills be enough to afford him forgiveness if he can't overcome his blocking woes? Stay tuned.

 

[Verdict]

You would think that Gathers can leap a tall building in a single bound with the way some of you guys talk about him. I hope he pans out. I would not be surprised if he does not.

I am hoping for the best but assuming the worst on Rico, and Gregory.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Blocking of the TEs in Dallas is something that has traditionally been required throughout the years. There's certainly an element of doubt if Rico would be retained if he can't block in the manner that the Dallas staff expects him to. Even Rico acknowledges that he hasn't been able to. We'll see if that changes or not. Will his receiving skills be enough to afford him forgiveness if he can't overcome his blocking woes? Stay tuned . . .

Tony Gonzales wasn't exactly considered a great blocker, neither is Antonio Gates, but both played for years and are much heralded tight ends. Would assume though that at least they blocked the way you're "supposed to", so not sure if those two guys' success could be translated to Rico.

Like you said, stay tuned....

 

[LACowboysFan1]

You would think that Gathers can leap a tall building in a single bound with the way some of you guys talk about him. I hope he pans out. I would not be surprised if he does not.

I am hoping for the best but assuming the worst on Rico, and Gregory.

I am not assuming the worst, but for sure they've both got a long way to go to even make this team, let alone be a top contributor...

 

[Bullflop]

Tony Gonzales wasn't exactly considered a great blocker, neither is Antonio Gates, but both played for years and are much heralded tight ends. Would assume though that at least they blocked the way you're "supposed to", so not sure if those two guys' success could be translated to Rico.

Like you said, stay tuned....

Very true but they didn't play for Dallas. I can easily picture it going either way when the time for final cuts are due. Sit tight, m'friend!

There will be some tough cuts due when the Turk comes calling at the end of TC. Whether Rico is one or not is yet to be determined.

 

[OmerV]

Coaches coach. Trainers train. It's their job to develop their players. And to motivate them.

They should have sat Rico down from day one and gave him a development plan. Which should have started with "learn how to block". From all the evidence I've seen, that didn't happen.

That's their job. If they do their job and he doesn't turn into a great TE, it's not on them. If you don't do your job, that's on you.

Do we really think the Cowboys coaches haven't been telling Rico blocking is important to his future with the team? That message seems to be pretty clear to the fans, so I don't know how Rico could have been kept in the dark.

As for a plan, who's to say the Cowboys didn't have a plan? But the plan can't be fully scripted because there are no certainties with how a player will develop, plus the early concussion threw a kink in things too.

So you know, I did not favor retaining Garrett, but I do think it's unfair to assume the Cowboys aren't doing things that we can't know if they do or not.

 

[OmerV]

Tony Gonzales wasn't exactly considered a great blocker, neither is Antonio Gates, but both played for years and are much heralded tight ends. Would assume though that at least they blocked the way you're "supposed to", so not sure if those two guys' success could be translated to Rico.

Like you said, stay tuned....

Of course neither of those guys sat out of football for 9 years.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Of course neither of those guys sat out of football for 9 years.

True, but Gates never played college football, so he sat out 4 years before coming to the NFL. And I'm not sure playing high school football does a lot for preparing to play tight end in the NFL.

But good point...

 

[OmerV]

True, but Gates never played college football, so he sat out 4 years before coming to the NFL. And I'm not sure playing high school football does a lot for preparing to play tight end in the NFL.

But good point...

True about Gates, but I think what people may not be aware of with Gates is that he was a top football recruit coming out of high school, and Nick Saban actually recruited him to play football at State. Gates actually went to Michigan State with the intent of playing both football and basketball, and only quit football when he found out Saban wouldn't let him play 2 sports.

 

[G2]

Do we really think the Cowboys coaches haven't been telling Rico blocking is important to his future with the team? That message seems to be pretty clear to the fans, so I don't know how Rico could have been kept in the dark.

As for a plan, who's to say the Cowboys didn't have a plan? But the plan can't be fully scripted because there are no certainties with how a player will develop, plus the early concussion threw a kink in things too.

So you know, I did not favor retaining Garrett, but I do think it's unfair to assume the Cowboys aren't doing things that we can't know if they do or not.

His first offseason Gathers trained rather heavily with the O line and against the D line. My point is it was fairly clear they were getting him prepared.