Gathers is an absolute Beast and smooth as Silk

[Billyd]

I'm not sure what you are saying - is it that the 6th rounder should have been activated and the UDFA should have been allowed to be stolen by another team? UDFA or 6th rounder - neither is considered a top NFL prospect, and since the team like both as developmental players, I don't understand why the team wouldn't keep both if there was a way. It's not like Rico had yet produced either, and because they did it the way they did, neither had to be sacrificed. Besides, even if Rico had been activated he likely would have barely seen the field just like Jarwin did.

WHY are the Cowboys trying to develop tightends? More than one at a time? BECAUSE they got caught with their pants down after running off there franchise qb Romo, the 1rec Dez, and they scared off their franchise TE.

What they can depend on...

GEOFFREY SWAIM

That is all!!

 

[OmerV]

WHY are the Cowboys trying to develop tightends? More than one at a time? BECAUSE they got caught with their pants down after running off there franchise qb Romo, the 1rec Dez, and they scared off their franchise TE.

What they can depend on...

GEOFFREY SWAIM

That is all!!

It just happened that way. I'm sure there wasn't a plan to load up on developmental TE's, but they got Rico and Jarwin in the fold, and decided they liked the developmental possibilities in both. That's how it works - a team brings in players they evaluate them and then decide if they are worthy of continued opportunity with the team.

I have no idea what you are saying about Romo and Dez in relation to Rico and Jarwin, nor do I get the comment about scaring off their franchise TE. Witten's career was winding way down, and he had an opportunity to step directly into one of the best TV jobs, so it's not as if the team somehow scared him off. His time had come, he had options, and he made a choice.

 

[JoeKing]

WHY are the Cowboys trying to develop tightends? More than one at a time? BECAUSE they got caught with their pants down after running off there franchise qb Romo, the 1rec Dez, and they scared off their franchise TE.

What they can depend on...

GEOFFREY SWAIM

That is all!!

You speak as if you have in your possession the FO's presences of mind. Thinking you know what they are thinking only reveals your own foolish notions. You are good at revealing your own foolishness and you just keep on doing it. Thanks, it entertaining.

 

[Billyd]

What proven method? Dallas didn't exactly have a track record of developing young TEs playing behind Witten.

They developed Witten...He was a 4th..

REALLY buddy This is getting old.Jarwin, Rico have produced nothing..They might if they actually give them a shot, But with Rico its been his brain, and injuries..They overpaid him for nothing and they been protecting him for three freaking years..Either he wins a spot or he goes..

Thats the Cowboys talking..

HOW about we go with the two closest to being ready, and evaluate Rico and Jarwin to decide who we keep, With sprinking of shultzy and draft a stud TE NEXT Year if neccessary!

 

[Billyd]

You speak as if you have in your possession the FO's presences of mind. Thinking you know what they are thinking only reveals your own foolish notions. You are good at revealing your own foolishness and you just keep on doing it. Thanks, it entertaining.

No Joe i still know you are holding on to tight ice man..else you would be responding to the post..

 

[Billyd]

It just happened that way. I'm sure there wasn't a plan to load up on developmental TE's, but they got Rico and Jarwin in the fold, and decided they liked the developmental possibilities in both. That's how it works - a team brings in players they evaluate them and then decide if they are worthy of continued opportunity with the team.

I have no idea what you are saying about Romo and Dez in relation to Rico and Jarwin, nor do I get the comment about scaring off their franchise TE. Witten's career was winding way down, and he had an opportunity to step directly into one of the best TV jobs, so it's not as if the team somehow scared him off. His time had come, he had options, and he made a choice.

Witten was all about trying to compete for a sb two months earlier...A gig and the fear of being run off by the front office and the way they did it, made him realize, it was time to go.. Dont be naive..The reason i brought that up is because Witten retirement caught them by surprise..They have been trying to develop a TE on the cheap...Lol..Witten did it to them before they could do it to Witten..Im lmao...you telling me you dont see that?

 

[OmerV]

They developed Witten...He was a 4th..

REALLY buddy This is getting old.Jarwin, Rico have produced nothing..They might if they actually give them a shot, But with Rico its been his brain, and injuries..They overpaid him for nothing and they been protecting him for three freaking years..Either he wins a spot or he goes..

Thats the Cowboys talking..

HOW about we go with the two closest to being ready, and evaluate Rico and Jarwin to decide who we keep, With sprinking of shultzy and draft a stud TE NEXT Year if neccessary!

Witten was drafted 15 years ago, none of the coaches with the team today were around then, and the method of developing Jarwin that you are talking about is not the method that was used with Witten.

As for giving Jarwin and Rico a shot, they have that big time this season. This is the best opportunity either could have - no established starter ahead of them.

And they have not been protecting Rico for 3 years. He has only been with the Cowboys 2 years, and at least half of the second year was lost to an injury. Besides, there is no right of every player to get the shot you talk about, and that's especially true of project players. Rico will have that chance this year though, as will Jarwin, Swaim and Shultz. In the absence of an established veteran starter, I'm glad to have the options.

 

[JoeKing]

No Joe i still know you are holding on to tight ice man..else you would be responding to the post..

Your post is so ridiculous, it doesn't merit a responce.

 

[Billyd]

Witten was drafted 15 years ago, none of the coaches with the team today were around then, and the method of developing Jarwin that you are talking about is not the method that was used with Witten.

As for giving Jarwin and Rico a shot, they have that big time this season. This is the best opportunity either could have - no established starter ahead of them.

And they have not been protecting Rico for 3 years. He has only been with the Cowboys 2 years, and at least half of the second year was lost to an injury. Besides, there is no right of every player to get the shot you talk about, and that's especially true of project players. Rico will have that chance this year though, as will Jarwin, Swaim and Shultz. In the absence of an established veteran starter, I'm glad to have the options.

True, but Swaim is the only one they trust, With Jarwin second..Im not even sure they trust Rico at all..Shultzy they dont know yet..


PLEASE DONT MISUNDERSTAND ME..

The tight end position is not an open competition..Their is an opportunity for Jarwin or Rico to win the second TE spot..Truely im not even sure that is open..but thats what is being said..Rico will either take the 2nd spot or he wont.
Shultzy is a rook..If you think he has a shot, you on the pot!

 

[CPanther95]

I'm still waiting for the "smooth as silk" part.

I'll believe that when I see him selling Colt 45 on TV ads.

 

[OmerV]

Witten was all about trying to compete for a sb two months earlier...A gig and the fear of being run off by the front office and the way they did it, made him realize, it was time to go.. Dont be naive..The reason i brought that up is because Witten retirement caught them by surprise..They have been trying to develop a TE on the cheap...Lol..Witten did it to them before they could do it to Witten..Im lmao...you telling me you dont see that?

Witten didn't have the other job offer 2 months earlier, and obviously people are obligated to stay to one course in their lives with no ability to go a different direction.

I agree they have been trying to develop a TE on the cheap, but that has nothing to do with the decision they had to about Rico and Jarwin at the time they had to make it. They can't make decisions based on players they don't have and situations they aren't in.

 

[Cowpolk]

True, but Swaim is the only one they trust, With Jarwin second..Im not even sure they trust Rico at all..Shultzy they dont know yet..


PLEASE DONT MISUNDERSTAND ME..

The tight end position is not an open competition..Their is an opportunity for Jarwin or Rico to win the second TE spot..Truely im not even sure that is open..but thats what is being said..Rico will either take the 2nd spot or he wont.
Shultzy is a rook..If you think he has a shot, you on the pot!

Schultz will be the starter

 

[Billyd]

Your post is so ridiculous, it doesn't merit a responce.

Hear that noise its a FLush!

 

[Billyd]

Schultz will be the starter

Schultz will be the starter

Give me that bong!

 

[Billyd]

Witten didn't have the other job offer 2 months earlier, and obviously people are obligated to stay to one course in their lives with no ability to go a different direction.

I agree they have been trying to develop a TE on the cheap, but that has nothing to do with the decision they had to about Rico and Jarwin at the time they had to make it. They can't make decisions based on players they don't have and situations they aren't in.

I said he was talking about competing for another run at a sb..That was also before they cut dez..not sure what thats means.

TRUE the thought on Witten retiring early kind of ironic, but I believe it, and if you look at the way they delt with Romo, Dez, and trying to replace him this way, its pretty easy to see why he decided to take the announcer gig..

 

[OmerV]

True, but Swaim is the only one they trust, With Jarwin second..Im not even sure they trust Rico at all..Shultzy they dont know yet..


PLEASE DONT MISUNDERSTAND ME..

The tight end position is not an open competition..Their is an opportunity for Jarwin or Rico to win the second TE spot..Truely im not even sure that is open..but thats what is being said..Rico will either take the 2nd spot or he wont.
Shultzy is a rook..If you think he has a shot, you on the pot!

To some degree I agree - I think your assessment of where the leanings are among the coaches at the moment is probably accurate. But I don't at all think there is a firm mindset on this. Swaim is far from entrenched - he was a 3rd string TE last year and has a total of 9 catches in 3 seasons. I think the consideration given to Swaim to start has a lot to do with him being the only one of the 4 that has any real NFL game experience, and at least from what I saw in one article, he may have some leadership abilities as well. But I think there is big opportunity for all 4 to take a step forward in TC and preseason.

 

[Billyd]

Witten didn't have the other job offer 2 months earlier, and obviously people are obligated to stay to one course in their lives with no ability to go a different direction.

I agree they have been trying to develop a TE on the cheap, but that has nothing to do with the decision they had to about Rico and Jarwin at the time they had to make it. They can't make decisions based on players they don't have and situations they aren't in.

This makes no sense. Im going on how they usually make decisions..They want competition, but with the way they demand trust at the position, anything short of injury is not going to derail Swaim earning the job..i thought we already agreed on that...

If Jarwin shows any ability to block he already has a step over Suave, that leaves catching the ball, which i believe they are about even other than a couple of inches, and 25 pounds..I dont know that for sure though..So ill give you that.

Shultzy if he gets a chance, and I dont think he will might get to play later in the season..THIS is the way they handle rookie Tightends..My take..If you dont believe thats cool..

 

[Billyd]

To some degree I agree - I think your assessment of where the leanings are among the coaches at the moment is probably accurate. But I don't at all think there is a firm mindset on this. Swaim is far from entrenched - he was a 3rd string TE last year and has a total of 9 catches in 3 seasons. I think the consideration given to Swaim to start has a lot to do with him being the only one of the 4 that has any real NFL game experience, and at least from what I saw in one article, he may have some leadership abilities as well. But I think there is big opportunity for all 4 to take a step forward in TC and preseason.

SWAIM gets little respect, and I dont think that is his fault, i think Witten was running around trying to keep his job, coz of the way the Cowboys were trying to protect themselves from what they seemed to manifest..Swaim had a good year in 2016 before he got hurt..Hanna had one thing swaim doesnt have.. Speed...Thats why Hanna got the 1a role..Otherwise Swaim played alot of snaps well last year, just not as a target in the passing game..

 

[OmerV]

This makes no sense. Im going on how they usually make decisions..They want competition, but with the way they demand trust at the position, anything short of injury is not goinc to detail Swaim earning the job..i thought we already agreed on that...

If Jarwin shows any ability to block he already has a step over Suave, that leaves catching the ball, which i believe they are about even other than a couple of inches, and 25 pounds..I dont know that for sure though..So ill give you that.

Shultzy if he gets a chance, and I dont think he will might get to play later in the season..THIS is the way they handle rookie Tightends..My take..If you dont believe thats cool..

What is it you are saying makes no sense? Is it the decision making process? You have to remember, the situation they find themselves in at TE is unusual. It can't really be judged based on what has happened in the past. It's odd to have a key position with so little actual NFL experience to choose from.

What do you mean about "not going to detail Swaim earning the job"? I assume that was a typo and you meant to say something like only injury will keep Swaim from earning the job. I actually do not believe that, assuming you are talking about the starting position. I think Swaim is a lock to make the team though, and I would say he has the inside track on the starting position, but I don't think that is set in stone. My guess though would be Swaim will begin the season as the starter, but I don't think it will be a firm grip. As the other TEs get more experience I think at least one will chip away at, and eventually take over the starter's position.

 

[OmerV]

SWAIM gets little respect, and I dont think that is his fault, i think Witten was running around trying to keep his job, coz of the way the Cowboys were trying to protect themselves from what they seemed to manifest..Swaim had a good year in 2016 before he got hurt..Hanna had one thing swaim doesnt have.. Speed...Thats why Hanna got the 1a role..Otherwise Swaim played alot of snaps well last year, just not as a target in the passing game..

Swaim did play a fair number of snaps, and that is what will make him the frontrunner to start out of the gate. I don't really think the speed difference is what kept him behind Hanna on the depth chart though because Hanna wasn't being used much as a receiver either (only 9 targets last year).