Gavin Escobar?

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Horrible pick. I dont see this guy being anything more than a backup. I hope im wrong, and Escobar turns into Jimmy Graham or Jordan Cameron.

Eddie Lacy. Thats all I have to say. He was there, and we could have got him. LeVeon Bell would have been a better pick than Escobar, I have a feeling we will be talking about this pick for a long time, and regretting that we didnt take one of these backs.

Not as bad as 2008 when we decided Felix Jones was the back we wanted. Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, Jamaal Charles, and Matt Forte were all taken after him in that draft.
 

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With our struggles in the red zone and on third down, no...I don't get it. He has great hands and great height. He can't block, but early this year he caught a nice TD pass on a seam route. Then he disappears.

Is the last possible guy suiting up on Sunday more valuable than having a huge target on 3rd down and in the red zone?
 

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Drop the fixation of hate, dude. Garrett didn't draft the guy. Garrett doesn't draft anyone. If you are going to hate save it for someone worth it: Jerry.

Jerry Jones rarely interjects and drafts a player he personally covets. I can all but guarantee he did not pick Escobar without someone saying it was a good idea.
 

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Tellus was at least VERY good at one thing, and never really had a chance at being a pass catcher here. He needed to move on, but Garrett and co. diddnt use Marty B right, how are they supposed to use this weak sally they drafted last year?

At least Bennett had the charming quality of being able to block.

Escobar is absolutely horrible right now. About the only thing nice anyone can say at this point is that "well, he seems to catch the ball--I guess, when he has had the chance". He cannot block. He cannot run decent routes to get open. He looks goofy. Just a nightmare.
 

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At least Bennett had the charming quality of being able to block.

Escobar is absolutely horrible right now. About the only thing nice anyone can say at this point is that "well, he seems to catch the ball--I guess, when he has had the chance". He cannot block. He cannot run decent routes to get open. He looks goofy. Just a nightmare.

He seriously looks like a disaster. Slow? Check. Weak? Double check. Poor route runner? Oh yeah.

What on Earth where they thinking? Even if he werent a slow, limp wristed weakling they wouldnt use him correctly.


Is this the process? Hang on to the 12 formation until the Patriots decide it isnt cool any more?
 

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First pick turned out to be very good. I was dead wrong about that.

But this guy seems a waste. For a team that desperately needs bodies he's a waste of a roster spot. So far.
 

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Escobar ran a 40 time of 4.84 seconds. He's too slow to be anything other than a "find the underneath open area guy"

Hanna IMO is not being used correctly. He should be used exactly as Jimmy Graham is. Hanna ran a 4.49 40 yard dash. Graham ran a 4.48 40 yard dash. ***!

In all honesty, I have a feeling that Hanna should be running the routes that Witten is, but someone in the organization is preventing this from happening. It's hard to see your favorite players slow down and not be able to get the job done anymore.

For what it's worth, Witten ran a 4.63 in 2003. I doubt he's anywhere close to that at this point in his career.
 

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What was Jerry smoking? Any fan with half a brain would have taken Larry Warford or Jonathan Hankins. Either one of those guys could have helped the depleted Oline or Dline right now.
 

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Horrible pick. I dont see this guy being anything more than a backup. I hope im wrong, and Escobar turns into Jimmy Graham or Jordan Cameron.

Eddie Lacy. Thats all I have to say. He was there, and we could have got him. LeVeon Bell would have been a better pick than Escobar, I have a feeling we will be talking about this pick for a long time, and regretting that we didnt take one of these backs.

Not as bad as 2008 when we decided Felix Jones was the back we wanted. Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, Jamaal Charles, and Matt Forte were all taken after him in that draft.

That is really depressing.
 

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Escobar ran a 40 time of 4.84 seconds. He's too slow to be anything other than a "find the underneath open area guy"

Hanna IMO is not being used correctly. He should be used exactly as Jimmy Graham is. Hanna ran a 4.49 40 yard dash. Graham ran a 4.48 40 yard dash. ***!

In all honesty, I have a feeling that Hanna should be running the routes that Witten is, but someone in the organization is preventing this from happening. It's hard to see your favorite players slow down and not be able to get the job done anymore.

For what it's worth, Witten ran a 4.63 in 2003. I doubt he's anywhere close to that at this point in his career.

Escobar's top speed is about 1mph higher than Witten's. Witten is faster out of the gate, but Escobar has a higher top speed.

Top speed is calculated using the difference between the 40 and 20 yards times.
 

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Women (nothing wrong with women) are stronger than him. That is PATHETIC. 12 rps at 225? Kiffin might be able to do that.

Strength is huge in the NFL.
That doesn't mean you give up on him now. He's basically a WR, though he's listed as a TE, and there are lots of WRs who don't put up 20 reps. Besides, on a 6' 7" long armed frame, bench press is hardly what you want to use to measure a guy's strenght. Does he need more if it, yes, but can you say he's never going to be strong enough to play in the NFL? Absolutely not.

I dont know if its Tony not looking for him or JG not scheming, but this guy should be a monster down the seam. There isn't a safety or LB in the league big enough to cover him. And if they are putting someone over the top, then other guys should be open all the time.

The reality is that he wasn't ever drafted to be a blocker, though some think that the 12 means he should be a mauler. He's meant to be used like Jimmy Graham. The problem is that JG doesn't have a freaking clue how to use him in that rule, and Romo doesn't trust any of his WRs to make plays.
 

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Jimmy Graham only did 15 reps.

Graham only started 5 games as a rookie and he was not playing behind a Hall of Fame TE.

There is really no way to know Escobar's upside.
 

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Eddie


Eddie Lacy, Le'Veon Bell, or Johnathon Hankins would be nice right about now..

Lacy looks like the second coming of Jerome Bettis so far, however, he fell in the draft because he had a collection of worrisome injuries despite very little mileage at Alabama and scared a lot of clubs off.

That plus it looked like he ate James Stark in the offseason... he looks like a RB who is going to always be fighting his waistline.

I'm not willing to write off - the things NFL scouts told Bob McGinn before the draft (below) -- we haven't seen yet but I feel like there is still a good chance..

3. GAVIN ESCOBAR, San Diego State (6-6, 250, 4.80, 2) - Fourth-year junior plays faster than he timed, according to several personnel people. "He ran better at pro day than at the combine, but it doesn't matter," one scout said. "He can really catch. He's what people are doing now. But he doesn't block at all." Three-year starter with 122 catches for 1,646 yards (13.5) and 17 TDs. Bench-pressed 225 pounds just 12 times, far below Ertz's 24 and Eifert's 22. "He's not a blocker. They don't even use him as a blocker there," another scout said. "They've got two other guys they use. As a pass catcher, he's not a nifty, athletic guy. Kind of a big target who runs on a straight line down the field." Scored 28 on the Wonderlic. Out of Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif. "Appears to be a taller Aaron Hernandez," a third scout said. "I had him in 4.84, but he sure plays faster than that."​
 

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Jerry Jones rarely interjects and drafts a player he personally covets. I can all but guarantee he did not pick Escobar without someone saying it was a good idea.

Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't this the pick where Jason looked like he wanted to hang himself when the pick was made? I have slept since then so I could be wrong.
 

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He may turn out to be a fine player but no way on earth should we made that pick.

I don't care if he develops into an all pro, that was a bad pick for us.
 

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They knew coming in that he couldn't block much they said as much in the draft press conference. The idea was that with his long arms and tall frame he could put on enough strength to become a very good blocker eventually. They knew he was a bit of a project.

The biggest key for him is what does he do after this off season with an NFL strength and conditioning program. Once he gets to training camp next year I think we will have a better idea as to how his career is going to go. Still too early for me at this point.
 
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