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[HungryLion]

Well, outside of Hill, which was an attempt to get a first-round-type talent in the second round, the Cowboys haven't really invested a high pick in the position since drafting Spears in 2005. That's what, 17 years, without a first-round DT.

Yeah. Their approach to the DT position is not good. Sooner or later you would think they would sink a first rounder or some FA cash into getting some legit ones. It’s one of the most important positions on the field.

 

[HungryLion]

Ppl lookin at this with rose colored glasses. Have you ever seen him effectively rush inside either in the nfl or even in college? The answer is no. In college every time he lined up inside he got pushed back 3 yards.

To be fair. I said could. Not necessarily will.

I didn’t watch him much in college to be honest.


But yeah man. I would much rather they just draft a really good DT for once. Than projects like this.

 

[Knotamus]

I honestly don’t see what the fuse is about?

Gholston is a back of the roster player going into his sophomore season. It was understood when he was drafted that he was raw and need to get bigger/stronger. He doesn’t have the speed to play edge, but has flashed the ability to get up field at DT. He’s the “lunch pail” type player that every team needs to fill out a roster.

So what does the kid do? He shows up at OTAs bigger/stronger and ready to do what it takes to make the team.. and the NFL for that matter. If Gholston’s ceiling is a “Tyron Crawford” type player.. how is that a bad thing?(exp considering the cost) Crawford wasn’t flashy, but he was a hell of a football player that did the “dirty work” and allowed others to shine. If Gholston can allow players like Parsons, Lawrence, Williams, etc. to get home, that’s a win.

Theres no guarantees that he even makes the roster, but I personally believe DT is his best chance… and apparently so does Quinn and the Cowboys.

 

[morasp]

About the 1:36 mark.

 

[morasp]

We're gonna compare him to those guys lol. Chauncey has barely played dt and when he did in college he was ineffective

Now your just making stuff up. You've lost my interest.

 

[noshame]

Quinn is going to build his defense around the talent he has.
You're going to see a lot of guys at different positions don't read a lot into anything at this point.

 

[J-man]

Best thing they mentioned was that Parsons working a lot as a DE.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Now your just making stuff up. You've lost my interest.

Go find clips of him being successful rushing the passer from inside. Ill wait

 

[Hennessy_King]

To be fair. I said could. Not necessarily will.

I didn’t watch him much in college to be honest.


But yeah man. I would much rather they just draft a really good DT for once. Than projects like this.

Exactly y make a kid gain 20 more lbs when he ran a 4.83 40 20-25 lbs less. He has only ever been effective playing DE. Cowboys being cheap trying to make him a dt instead of just bringing in a player that plays DT. Its so dumb

 

[817Gill]

Go find clips of him being successful rushing the passer from inside. Ill wait

Bro a few posts up posted this they start it up at 1:36. I thought it was pretty common knowledge coming into the draft that Gholston could play inside. I respect your football opinion dawg but everything I saw and continue to see/read suggests he has inside out versatility.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Bro a few posts up posted this they start it up at 1:36. I thought it was pretty common knowledge coming into the draft that Gholston could play inside. I respect your football opinion dawg but everything I saw and continue to see/read suggests he has inside out versatility.

Wyatt Davis was the pick. Not Chauncey.
Versatility is awesome when you can do multiple things great. It is not when you do nothing great. Meet Chauncey. Not great at rushing passer from outside. Not great at stopping run inside. I think the Crawford comparison is very fair. In fact if he plays as well as Crawford that would be CG's ceiling IMO.

 

[DFWJC]

Yup. Can't just play dudes where they were drafted to play

So glad they ignore that or Parsons is playing LB all the time.

 

[stilltheguru]

So glad they ignore that or Parsons is playing LB all the time.

Because it works once out of 20 means what to you? Stop playing yourself

 

[Hennessy_King]

Bro a few posts up posted this they start it up at 1:36. I thought it was pretty common knowledge coming into the draft that Gholston could play inside. I respect your football opinion dawg but everything I saw and continue to see/read suggests he has inside out versatility.

I didnt see it at iowa. 90% of his plays were made from the DE position. I dont like versatility unless they are pro bowl all pro players.

 

[Rayman70]

I honestly don’t see what the fuse is about?

Gholston is a back of the roster player going into his sophomore season. It was understood when he was drafted that he was raw and need to get bigger/stronger. He doesn’t have the speed to play edge, but has flashed the ability to get up field at DT. He’s the “lunch pail” type player that every team needs to fill out a roster.

So what does the kid do? He shows up at OTAs bigger/stronger and ready to do what it takes to make the team.. and the NFL for that matter. If Gholston’s ceiling is a “Tyron Crawford” type player.. how is that a bad thing?(exp considering the cost) Crawford wasn’t flashy, but he was a hell of a football player that did the “dirty work” and allowed others to shine. If Gholston can allow players like Parsons, Lawrence, Williams, etc. to get home, that’s a win.

Theres no guarantees that he even makes the roster, but I personally believe DT is his best chance… and apparently so does Quinn and the Cowboys.

Great points. I hear he has really transformed his body. He looks much thicker and quicker even. He has displayed power,though it's very early still. I think he will make the roster and shine in preseason. Nice rotational guy.

 

[DFWJC]

Because it works once out of 20 means what to you? Stop playing yourself

No harm in seeing what players are capable of during OTAs
calm down

 

[817Gill]

I didnt see it at iowa. 90% of his plays were made from the DE position. I dont like versatility unless they are pro bowl all pro players.

I think he’s capable in terms of body type and ability and he did it enough to be mentioned by most scouting profiles of him.

I hear you on the versatility thing but if a guy is gonna be solid at one position vs solid at two why not take that? Chauncey will never be a high end pass rusher but he has the potential to be a very good DE run defender. He’ll never be a run plugger inside but he has the skills to be able to rotate in on passing downs at the 3T, especially with the 20 lbs he’s said to have put on.

For me it’s apparent his strengths are as a run defender at DE. That’s only gonna get him on the field for a fraction of snaps. If the guy can contribute on passing downs at DT then by all means let him.

I don’t think there’s any shame in trying that out in camp. If you think the guy is going to crack the pass rush rotation over Parsons, Williams, Lawrence, Armstrong, and Fowler (not to mention Basham who they like) then by all means let him spend all his time there. But you and me both know he won’t be rushing the passer so seeing if he can contribute on those downs inside is a logical idea.

One name tossed around a lot when he was drafted was T-Craw. Hate him or love him at his best he was a lunchpale guy who was a better run defender than pass rusher, the issue with him was his salary. If Chauncey is that guy with a bit more to offer on passing downs then he’s a solid part of the line for his rookie deal.

 

[charron]

Now is the time to experiment with moving guys around. See what kind of combinations work well together and get guys some reps at other spots in case of injury.

 

[Hennessy_King]

I think he’s capable in terms of body type and ability and he did it enough to be mentioned by most scouting profiles of him.

I hear you on the versatility thing but if a guy is gonna be solid at one position vs solid at two why not take that? Chauncey will never be a high end pass rusher but he has the potential to be a very good DE run defender. He’ll never be a run plugger inside but he has the skills to be able to rotate in on passing downs at the 3T, especially with the 20 lbs he’s said to have put on.

For me it’s apparent his strengths are as a run defender at DE. That’s only gonna get him on the field for a fraction of snaps. If the guy can contribute on passing downs at DT then by all means let him.

I don’t think there’s any shame in trying that out in camp. If you think the guy is going to crack the pass rush rotation over Parsons, Williams, Lawrence, Armstrong, and Fowler (not to mention Basham who they like) then by all means let him spend all his time there. But you and me both know he won’t be rushing the passer so seeing if he can contribute on those downs inside is a logical idea.

One name tossed around a lot when he was drafted was T-Craw. Hate him or love him at his best he was a lunchpale guy who was a better run defender than pass rusher, the issue with him was his salary. If Chauncey is that guy with a bit more to offer on passing downs then he’s a solid part of the line for his rookie deal.

Ty craw sucked point blank period. How do you guys say golston is solid??? He had some ok moments but that was it. Also sported a "solid" 85th ranked PFF grade lol thats not solid.

 

[817Gill]

Ty craw sucked point blank period. How do you guys say golston is solid??? He had some ok moments but that was it. Also sported a "solid" 85th ranked PFF grade lol thats not solid.

For his rookie deal he was a solid workman DE/DT. Never spectacular and shouldn’t have been paid but dude was fine.

“Crawford has always been a steady, yet unspectacular contributor on the Cowboys’ defense. Since 2014, he always seems to hover around 30 combined tackles and four sacks per season. Pro Football Reference has given him an AV score of 7 for four consecutive seasons.”

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/2019/06/04/dallas-cowboys-tyrone-crawford-player-profile-2019/

7 is an average AV. Dude was a solid player in his physical prime. Don’t let the contract and later seasons make his whole career. Dude was a normal contributor in his prime.