Randy White;3346283 said:
Well, you claim that All anybody would remember Teague for is his hit on T.O. which is obviously not the case. He was a good player in Dallas and one of the leaders of an, albeit, declining team.
That's all most remember about him. Just giving you the facts! You have a few here trying to prove me wrong by digging for a college play he made that very few remember unless you're diehard bama and Miami fan. The defending the star incident has been seen everywhere by every sports fan because it involved a very famous controversial player. Everytime TO's career is documented they always get to the part where he runs out to the star and gets decked by Teague. I'll guarantee you everywhere Teague goes he gets asked about it. That moment was put into a time capsule and it will be something he will always be remembered for. I'm sure he smiles everytime he sees it. That one moment made some Cowboy fans look at his stay in Dallas differently. It sure has made you look at it differently. lol Even the snow plow guy is still thought of fondly by Patriot fans after all these years.

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Randy White;3346283 said:
You are the one who brought up Marion's stat to prove he had a better career than Teague, something I don't believe anybody was disputing. The dispute was that Teague was an upgrade over Marion in Dallas, and ideed, he was. It doesn't matter what Marion went on to do for the Dullphins because most Cowboys' fans don't care. They care what he did in Dallas and comparing the 2, Teague was better.
If you want to believe Teague was an upgrade over Marion that's your opinion but "most" Cowboy fans who are objective and followed the team back then won't agree with you. The Cowboys wanted to keep Marion but couldn't because of their cap situation which was in bad shape. Jimmy brought Teague in and dumped him a year later in favor of Marion a player he drafted and trusted to man the FS position in a SB.
Randy White;3346283 said:
Yes, TACKLES is an overrated stats and if you knew anything about football, you'd know why. Eugene Lockheart had something like 200 tackles in 1989 for the Cowboys, which is why he was called " the hittin' machine ", but alot of the tackles were 4, 5, and 6 yards downfield which all it meant was that the Cowboys were getting plowed by most offenses. Anybody with a football IQ above 2 would recognize that, but I guess you can't.
Anyone with a football IQ would never say tackles are overrated. Lockheart played MLB where you're going to get alot of tackles. If a FS misses a tackle it usually leads to a score or at the very least a sizable gain. We're talking about two different positions and if you have a FS missing tackles you're going to have BIG trouble. If you don't believe me go back and look at the 2 tackles Ken Hamlin missed against the Ravens in the final game at Texas Stadium in 08....NEXT!
Randy White;3346283 said:
Tell you what, though, anybody with a football IQ above 2 would also know that you don't want your safeties making many tackles either but you do want them to get INTs and defend passes.. How many passed did Marion defended while he was a Cowboy again ?
Marion had more than double the int's Teague got. Marion had 31 and Teague ended up with 15. Marion had 8 int's as a Cowboy and Teague had 7. Teague out shinned Marion with pass defenses(as a Cowboy)but with our DL and secondary Marion wasn't put in a position where he had to defend alot of passes. In 95 Marion tied for the team lead with 6 int's so he was picking balls off that came near him. You're going to have to come up with something alot more than pass defenses to make your case for Teague over Marion. By the way all 6 pass defenses that Teague got with the Cowboys came in 2001 when the team was terrible and he was having to help out. Marion had 22 pass defenses during his career compared to 6 for Teague. Marion had 7 forced fumbles during his career compared to 4 for Teague. Two of Marion's FF's came during his rookie year. Marion led Teague in just about every "career" statistical category.
Randy White;3346283 said:
Oh excellent. So now you're comparing Brock Marion to Montana, Aikman, Rice, Emmitt and Haley.. and the dilusions continue..
Not comparing them at all that's your spin I'm just pointing out those players had very good supporting casts too care to disagree? No player can do it all on their own it takes a team effort. You keep using the excuse that Marion was surrounded by a good supporting cast and this is why he excelled. Why do you think any of those great players I mentioned excelled? They also had great supporting casts. lol Here are the facts and you can spin them anyway you want. Teague wasn't good enough to make the team for those talented Packers teams that went to the SB in 96 and 97 and he wasn't good enough for Jimmy to keep him around for more than one year with the talent he was assembling in Miami. Marion was good enough to start 16 games in Dallas for a SB team and he was good enough to start every game but one on a talented Dolphins defense for 6 years.
Randy White;3346283 said:
Once again, you're rearranging the chairs in the titanic you call an argument. Nobody said Teague was a greatest player ever. Nobody said Teague was the best at anything.
The point IS that he was an UPGRADE to Brock Marion in Dallas, and he was, period.
You're the one who's sinking Captain so better lower the life rafts. lol The stats simply don't back up your claim that Teague was an UPGRADE over Marion. He was a cheaper option. You can keep singing the same tune but you're hitting on some sour notes.
Randy White;3346283 said:
And now Marion was just like Larry Allen too..
If you got that out of one of my examples then you're lost in Space Dr Smith.

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Randy White;3346283 said:
Yea, it seems you were born confused. And with one of the shortest memories ever.
You're little spin game isn't going to work with me so might as well give it up. The stats and starts of Marion and Teague tell the story and it's turned into a nightmare on Elm Street for you. You're so confused you think tackling is overrated try telling that to a GM.
Randy White;3346283 said:
Yea, like the Cowboys were going to let go a Safety, in the prime of his career, for misley 3 million dollars signing bonus, when they gave his replacement 2 millions.
It's like arguing with a 2 year old..
Teague got a million less and when you're cap strapped a million less might help keep you under the cap and give you a little breathing room. Marion was let go by a head coach who didn't draft him. The head coach who did draft him and built those teams the Cowboys were winning 3 SB's with went after him again. Look, I'm shooting down everything you come up with like sitting ducks and you're obviously getting frustrated so why don't slam your fist into a wall and take a deep breath before you go on a rampage in a crowded shopping mall over this. lol