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Gil Brandt On NFL Radio

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by SFloridaCowboy, Jun 17, 2020.

  1. SFloridaCowboy

    SFloridaCowboy Member

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    While I give Gil Brandt credit for his innovations in buiding and maintaining the Cowboys until 1979, with surprising draft picks and signings from tiny schools, players who became great, and great trades in the early 70's which rebooted in a hurry an aging team, starting with the 1978 draft through the 1987 draft, the Boys were among the worst drafters in football.

    From 78-87, only one number 1 pick was a a long time starter, DE Jim Jeffcoat, 1983 Arizona State. The talent level dropped and dropped and dropped. In 1985, I was an eyewitness to a 44-0 blowout loss to Da Bears. The talent level differntial was glaring. The Boys had no wide receiver talent. At one point thet had BIll Bates returning punts.

    Landry and Gil Brandt got long in the tooth and lost their ability to judge talent. They revered their strategies and decided to go to big schools for proven talent and drafted two DL college studs, Kevin Brooks from Michigan and Danny Noonan from Nebraska. Noonan started for a few years, but was mediocre at best. Brooks was a bust galore and Jimmy Johnson cut his *** in 89.

    I do not know how Gil Brandt has become a genius in talent evaluation in his 80's fro NFL Radio when he was done after JJ cleaned house in 1989, over 30 years ago.

    The saving grace of Landry/Brandt was the '88 draft with Michael Irvin and Ken Norton. When Jimmy Johnson came to Dallas, the only players he really liked were Irvin, Norton, Kelvin Martin, Hershel Walker, Doug Cosbie ( who suffered a carer ending knee in jury in 89) Tuinei and Nate Newton. Jimmy took out his broom and swept out all the lesser talent and started at rock bottom.

    Within a few years, Jimmy built the best team in football, the youngest ever to win teh Super Bowl. He had waves of defensive line studs. He had winners and warriors, built for along run, until his divorce from Jerry, and the NFL free agency which robbed the Boys of solid players who went on to very good to excellent years with other teams, including: Kevin Gogan, Ron Stone, Ken Norton, Brock Marion.

    So while I give Gil Brandt credit for all those great early years, he must also fess up to the terrible failures of 78-98 drafts, which caused die-hards like me to be depressed for over a decade. I do not know why at such an advanced age he is on the NFL Radio show.
     
  2. darthseinfeld

    darthseinfeld Drunk on Dalton Juice

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    For the same reason Casserly is. He is an experienced and credentialed talent evaluator and that brings in fans to listen.
     
  3. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member

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    I agree regarding Gil.
    No disrespect to him
    He hasn't been special in judging talent for decades.
    Good for him though, that he’s kept active
     
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  4. Typhus

    Typhus Catching Catfish

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    Brandt was revolutionary during that era of the game.
    He created a new scouting and evaluation system for prospects.
    He set the new standard that every team in the league rushed to adapt.
     
  5. darthseinfeld

    darthseinfeld Drunk on Dalton Juice

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    I dont read much of his material, but what some examples of bad takes by Gil?
     
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  6. NorthTexan95

    NorthTexan95 Well-Known Member

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    The demise of the Cowboys in the 80's falls squarely on the failures in the draft. If I remember correctly they also didn't have an indoor weight room at Valley Ranch. Instead they had a small outdoor area. I guess they expected guys to workout on their own.
     
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  7. aria

    aria Well-Known Member

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    He’s a relic at this point and a joke who’s out of touch with today’s game but depending about what he says about a certain team, that fan base will either hold on to it like it’s gold or dismiss it due to the reasons I mentioned above.

    Reminds me Cowherd. He’s a hack if he says something negative about the Cowboys but he’s one of the better analysts/radio/tv hosts out there if some fans like what he says.

    IIRC, it was Gil Brandt who called Daniel Jones the next Peyton Manning :rolleyes:
     
  8. aria

    aria Well-Known Member

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    Preparing them for their prison workouts.
     
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  9. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member

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    Can probably start with Johnny Manziel being his top overall prospect (not just QB, but overall) in 2014.
    Then work your way down from there.

    But really, it dates back to the 80s all the way til how.
    Like all of us, he does get a few right too, btw
     
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  10. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Moderator

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    Because is was vice president of player personnel for the Dallas Cowboys for 29 years, he has 2 Super Bowl rings and is regarded as one of the big reasons for the Cowboys success when the Cowboys went to the playoffs every year.

    He had so many accomplishments and his thinking was duplicated by teams around the league. Together with Tex and Tom they achieved enormous success and he's in the ROH and deserves to be in the HOF.

    If you look around the media today, overall it doesn't matter if their opinion is right or wrong. If they can give their message in a authoritative or entertaining way, that's all that matters. Gil's credentials give him all the credit he needs regardless of his age.
     
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  11. America's Cowboy

    America's Cowboy Well-Known Member

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    At the ripe age of 87, Gil Brandt still has IT. He enlightens us with his wisdom once again...



    :starspin:
     
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  12. TheSkaven

    TheSkaven Last Man Standing Zone Supporter

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    And that the Cowboys would win the Super Bowl last year. I guess no one told him about the odd year even year thing. :)
     
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  13. JW82

    JW82 JJ21

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    Agreed. This is what his claim to fame is, nut just player evaluation.
     
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  14. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    Gil is mostly interesting now for his contacts around the league and what he hears from them. I agree his first twenty years evaluating talent were much better than his last ten as the rest of the league started catching up. An example of a recent Cowboy draft pick he missed badly on was QB Stephen McGee. Gil loved him and as we found out he couldnt play.
     
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  15. yimyammer

    yimyammer Well-Known Member

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    dont forget Jim Jeffcoat
     
  16. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    One factor that hurt the talent level of those teams was some really bad luck with injuries. The quality of those drafts was subpar, but some of the high draft picks during that time period suffered career ending injuries.
     
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  17. Typhus

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    He was the Godfather on the integration of computer tech at the time and infusing data for evaluation.
    He set the standard at that time and it should never be forgotten or ignored how integral he was.
     
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  18. SFloridaCowboy

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    My 2nd paragraph: "From 78-87, only one number 1 pick was a a long time starter, DE Jim Jeffcoat, 1983 Arizona State"
     
  19. SFloridaCowboy

    SFloridaCowboy Member

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    Like Robert Shaw, 1979 center, 1984 LB Cannon, 1986 WR Sherrard. Rest of players stunk other than Jeffcoat.

    Ugly players in talent: Hogeboom, Pelluer Kevin Sweeney, Phil Pozderac, Jeff Rohrer, E. Eckuban, Ron Francis-CB, the list is lengthy;
     
  20. Typhus

    Typhus Catching Catfish

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    Zero respect.
    Education = Respect.
     
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