Give me your DL roster for 2014

[blindzebra]

Position flex...and I know some hate that term...will be the key.

To me that puts guys like Mincey and McClain in trouble and adds to the likelihood that Gardener, Bishop and Coleman all make the roster.

I can't see Spencer playing at all.

Starters: RDE Lawrence, LDE Selvie, 3T Melton, 1T Bass

Back ups DT Coleman and Bishop, DE Crawford and Gardener and the last spot needs to be a speed guy perhaps Wilson.

 

[xwalker]

With the addition of Okoye, the competition is getting a little stiffer, but other than Melton, I don't think anyone else at the DT spot is listed as a "sure thing" to make the roster... McClain would be 2nd I guess.

But yeah, I'd like to see both Coleman and Bishop make the final roster.

I think if healthy, it's about 90% that McClain is the starting 1-tech.

I like the competition that they should have with all of the roster additions. They should definitely error on the side of youth and upside.

 

[tm1119]

Think in every post ive made i used the word IF. Im basically saying IF he is. Maybe you should read

So in other words you have no clue what you're talking about as usual.

 

[XDez88BeastX]

SDE - Selvie, Crawford, Gardner
1Tech - McClain, Bishop
3Tech - Melton,Okoye
WDE - Mincey,Lawrence

I really like Coleman but I'm not sure he beats out Okoye & I doubt they go ten deep in the Dline

 

[itsaboat]

RE - Mincey, Lawrence
1T - McClain, Bishop
3T - Melton, Crawford, Akoye
LE - Selvie, Bass, Gardner

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Looking at all these lists including my own, the one thing that sticks out is that the defensive line still lacks that one additional pass-rusher who can work opposite Lawrence on passing downs.

If on passing downs you have a healthy Melton at one DT spot... Crawford moving inside and working the other DT spot, Lawrence as the weakside DE... Those 3 may be able to provide some decent pressure.

It's that 4th guy on pass downs that I'm wondering about... And that "guy" probably isn't on the roster, and no I don't think it's Selvie.

 

[LatinMind]

I think if healthy, it's about 90% that McClain is the starting 1-tech.

I like the competition that they should have with all of the roster additions. They should definitely error on the side of youth and upside.

The great thing is there are so many bodies that theyre going to throw out there in TC. I could easily see 10 DL this yr. The other thing is Dallas has a bunch of DL who can play inside and outside. Crawford, Mincey, Gardner.

Marinelli made it happen with a bunch of unknowns in Chicago with Peppers. Melton was a virtual unknown until he wasnt. And even after he broke out it was Melton and Peppers in 2012. The rest of the bunch were just average guys who rotated. Dallas is hoping and praying Lawrence is that guy to give that outside rush some life. And even shooting for the stars with their hopes of spencer playing

 

[LatinMind]

Looking at all these lists including my own, the one thing that sticks out is that the defensive line still lacks that one additional pass-rusher who can work opposite Lawrence on passing downs.

If on passing downs you have a healthy Melton at one DT spot... Crawford moving inside and working the other DT spot, Lawrence as the weakside DE... Those 3 may be able to provide some decent pressure.

It's that 4th guy on pass downs that I'm wondering about... And that "guy" probably isn't on the roster, and no I don't think it's Selvie.

If he can come along quickly in his conditioning, i could see Gardner being that guy on 3rd downs at the start.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

If he can come along quickly in his conditioning, i could see Gardner being that guy on 3rd downs at the start.

Yeah, to start I can see Gardner being that guy too. But I'm not sure he's a good enough pass rusher to make this an elite defensive pass rush. But we'll see.

 

[CyberB0b]

12 starts in 32 games

I've studied him on the All-22 film. He is easily better than Hayden.

You've also said the same thing about Parnell vs. Free and were wrong.

 

[xwalker]

You've also said the same thing about Parnell vs. Free and were wrong.

No, Parnell was as good or better than Free when he played. He was injured for all of the 2013 preseason and the Cowboys rarely bench a player like Free that is getting paid millions.

Multiple local reporters indicated that Callahan preferred Parnell to Free in 2012 and wanted to get him some playing time in 2013 but "management" preferred to stay with the more experienced player.

 

[xwalker]

The great thing is there are so many bodies that theyre going to throw out there in TC. I could easily see 10 DL this yr. The other thing is Dallas has a bunch of DL who can play inside and outside. Crawford, Mincey, Gardner.

Marinelli made it happen with a bunch of unknowns in Chicago with Peppers. Melton was a virtual unknown until he wasnt. And even after he broke out it was Melton and Peppers in 2012. The rest of the bunch were just average guys who rotated. Dallas is hoping and praying Lawrence is that guy to give that outside rush some life. And even shooting for the stars with their hopes of spencer playing

They really seem to be hedging against injuries this year with moves like signing Akoye and bringing in multiple RBs, WRs, etc.. I think Spencer is a hedge also. He just give them an option but they have no commitment.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

They really seem to be hedging against injuries this year with moves like signing Akoye and bringing in multiple RBs, WRs, etc.. I think Spencer is a hedge also. He just give them an option but they have no commitment.

Agreed.

I think the injuries from the last couple years have stunned the coaches and the management of the team... And fans too.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Ends: Demarcus Lawrence, George Selvie, Tyrone Crawford, Jeremy Mincey, Ben Gardner
Tackles: Henry Melton, Terrell McClain, Amobi Okoye, Nick Hayden

I have Anthony Spencer starting the year on PUP, and Ken Bishop and Davon Coleman on the practice squad.

 

[casmith07]

And how.

No push, poor against pass protection, mediocre against the run, just was generally a body. Didn't add anything of note, and was a liability or blown off the ball in a lot of plays.

Probably had more to do with him playing 700+ snaps in a season when he probably should have played 200-300 as a rotational guy, but still. He was not good.

 

[xwalker]

Position flex...and I know some hate that term...will be the key.

To me that puts guys like Mincey and McClain in trouble and adds to the likelihood that Gardener, Bishop and Coleman all make the roster.

I can't see Spencer playing at all.

Starters: RDE Lawrence, LDE Selvie, 3T Melton, 1T Bass

Back ups DT Coleman and Bishop, DE Crawford and Gardener and the last spot needs to be a speed guy perhaps Wilson.

Mincey has played inside in the Nickel in the past in addition to playing both side at DE.

McClain has played the 3-tech in a 4-3 and Zero-tech (NT) in a 3-4.

 

[LatinMind]

They really seem to be hedging against injuries this year with moves like signing Akoye and bringing in multiple RBs, WRs, etc.. I think Spencer is a hedge also. He just give them an option but they have no commitment.

Seems like they learned their lesson from last yr

 

[XxTDxX]

RDE: DeMarcus Lawrence, Anthony Spencer, Martez Wilson
3 Tech: Henry Melton, Tyrone Crawford
1 Tech: Terrell McClain, Ken Bishop
LDE: George Selvie, Jeremy Mincey

Practice Squad: Davon Coleman, Ben Gardner

 

[Galian Beast]

For those projecting Crawford at the 3, I think you should ask yourself, where is he most likely to start.

A. Over Henry Melton
or
B. Over George Selvie

I'm sure he will get looks inside and outside, but the place where he is going to be able to get the most playing time is on the outside. I think you might see Selvie move to the right this year, where he might swing to the right in passing situations.

LDE - Crawford, Gardner
1Tech - McClain, Bass
3Tech - Melton, Okoye
RDE - Selvie, Lawrence

PUP - Spencer

If Spencer comes back, I don't expect him to play LDE.

PS - Bishop, Coleman
Redshirt - Whaley

I don't expect both McClain and Mincey to make this team. I think we have a real youth movement going, I don't think they are that good, and they're significantly more expensive than their counterparts. Mincey especially, who is old, and hasn't been productive in years. You cut Mincey and you save about 750k. McClain not only has a better chance of making the team, he has a better chance of starting. He'll mostly need to fend off Ben Bass who is coming back from injury. I think the lack of buzz around Ben Bass is making people forget that he was playing pretty well before he got hurt. Also, I wouldn't be at all stunned if Bishop or Coleman make the team over McClain.

Overall, I like that we're seeing so much competition, and that we've brought so many guys in early, rather than waiting to see what happens. I was just as wrong as the front office last year expecting Spencer and Ratliff to contribute. That being said, I think we'll have a pretty decent defensive line next year based on what I'm projecting early. Depending on how things shake up, we won't be in such a bad position defensively, and perhaps, who knows, but the draft next year might be more open overall.

 

[itsaboat]

For those projecting Crawford at the 3, I think you should ask yourself, where is he most likely to start.

Marinelli was asked the other day (Friday?) where he saw Crawford playing and he said he wants him to start at as the backup 3 tech and then work on him at LE.