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TheRomoSexual

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Dodger12;5072191 said:
Of course you did, except on draft day you were plugging OL after the first until the Cowboys picked a TE, WR and S then you loved the picks. Then you posted there was still a lot of OL value as the draft progressed until, of course, the Boys didn't pick OL then you jumped on board the bandwagon.

After the first you would have been happy with "Warford and a RB" until the Boys went TE, WR and S and, of course, you jumped on the wagon again.

See a pattern?





You plugged Moore and Schwenke during the draft and now it's "hindsight" and "pitiful" when someone else would have done it because, well, the Boys didn't pick him.

It's OK to be a homer but do you realize that most of your posts are these silly "your post sucks" comebacks and insults in response to any question someone may have about our draft?

While this is the net and no one really gives a hoot, there's a thing called intellectual integrity. Some people don't change their tune after the draft when all they've been talking all off-season has been line help and beefing up the trenches. On the other hand, all you've done is change your position to match the player and position the team drafted.

As was already posted, we took more punters and QB's than we did lineman, even when one was supposedly rated 7th on our draft board but somehow, come draft day and after millions spent scouting, he didn't seem to fit our scheme at #18, value be damned.

We paid 50 million for one corner and gave up a second last year to move up and draft another. Then we bring in 8 more defensive backs between the draft and UFA's. These should raise some valid questions when we've got legitimate concerns on both sides of the line.

You can now go back to insulting without the backbone to produce any type of articulate response. If I didn't know any better, I'd think you work for the Cowboys or at least bucking for a job wearing a skirt and waving pom poms on the sideline during gameday.

Aw, a lot of words to say absolutely nothing. I have always been an advocate of BPA, and all your rhetoric to the contrary won't change the fact that the Cowboys went BPA. But feel free to continue to make up nonsense. It's actually quite amusing.
 

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TheRomoSexual;5072199 said:
Aw, a lot of words to say absolutely nothing. I have always been an advocate of BPA, and all your rhetoric to the contrary won't change the fact that the Cowboys went BPA. But feel free to continue to make up nonsense. It's actually quite amusing.

I thought so......and when you mentioned the possibility of Moore, Schwenke or Winters, I guess they were just names you picked out of the hat, not good players that had value at the point in the draft when you mentioned them. Got it. For a guy that claimed to another poster that he did a lot of research, you sure got nothing to add.
 

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Dodger12;5072207 said:
I thought so......
You seriously did not make a single point. I liked Winters as a third round or so prospect. Schwenke I liked as a fourth round prospect. Unlike some fans such as yourself, however, I am not short-sighted to the point where I only like one kind of prospect. You are the kind of fan who likely screamed when we drafted Lee and Murray. Absolutely no vision.
 

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TheRomoSexual;5072216 said:
You seriously did not make a single point. I liked Winters as a third round or so prospect. Schwenke I liked as a fourth round prospect. Unlike some fans such as yourself, however, I am not short-sighted to the point where I only like one kind of prospect. You are the kind of fan who likely screamed when we drafted Lee and Murray. Absolutely no vision.

I may or may not have vision, but I don't change my tune every time the team makes a suspect move or changes course. And I have no doubt you were on board with Lee and Murray....the moment the team made the pick.
 

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I thought we confirmed RomoSexual is in fact Jerry Jr. posting from his play pin.
 

TheRomoSexual

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Dodger12;5072236 said:
I may or may not have vision, but I don't change my tune every time the team makes a suspect move or changes course. And I have no doubt you were on board with Lee and Murray....the moment the team made the pick.
Again, I like the picks because they were BPA. As long as they stick to that strategy, I won't complain. This isn't hard to figure out, not sure why you are having a problem grasping this idea.
 

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visionary;5072053 said:
Take the trade

31: Jonathan Cyprien, FS starter
47: Kevin winter, OG starter
74: Brian schwenke, OC starter
80: D Moore or Jordan Hill, DT/DE DL rotation
114: B Webb, CB 4 th cb
151: J randle, RB
185: J Kruger, DE DL rotation
Trade next years 6th for high 7th: Reid Fragel, OT competes with Parnell and allows us to release Free after June 1

This solves problems at safety and OL
Provides great depth at DL with future starters
Solves back up RB and 4th CB issues

Not at all a bad effort imho.
Notes:
Assume you mean Brian Winters at 47.
That's a pretty large reach when he was ranked round 3 or 4 by most and went round 3. If you believe he is a starter day 1 it would be a great pick. But that's a very questionable assessment for a guy from the MAC who has only played OT until now.

Schwenke at 74 would be fine by me. But I am not penciling him in as a day 1 starter. Valuable get with Costa being banged up but if Bern loses the RG job he'll compete at OC too. Not sure Schwenke can beat out both Bern and Costa or even either if they are healthy as a rookie.

I would have jumped all over Demontre Moore myself but the character stuff worries me. Aggies support each other. If this guy is getting bad marks then he has to be at least as frustrating as MartyB.

Again, I think your haul is strong but your assumption of immediate help on most these picks is a bit optimistic. Especially a 7th round rookie OT or 6th round rookie DL helping this year. Most linemen chosen that late make the practice squad if anything even if they later develop.
 

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Good topic.

1) 18. Shariff Floyd, DT Florida
Jerry said they passed on Floyd because they didn't view him as a 3-tech type player. Well Anthony McFarland didn't wasn't a 3-technique lineman either but he sure freed up Warren Sapp to wreak havoc.

2) 47. Larry Warford, G Kentucky
Reminds me of Ben Grubbs, may very well never make a pro bowl but he could be a solid starter inside for 8-10 years.

3) 80. Brennan Williams, OT North Carolina
Would either force Doug Free to pickup his game or simply take his job.

4) 114. Johnathan Franklin, RB UCLA
Was hoping for Shamarko Thomas here but settle for the best RB left on the board. Phillip Thomas' ball skills are temping, but slow foot-speed, poor open field tackling, and taking bad angles is generally a bad tri-fecta for the position that's supposed to be your last line of defense.

5) 150. Bacarri Rambo, S Georgia
Good ball skills plus he's more physical and faster than Phillip Thomas.

6) 185. Matt Scott, QB Arizona
Low risk, long-term project with good upside.

Note: Although I'm a fan of the two TE offense, I would have avoided taking one, mostly because I'm intrigued by Hannah. He looked good in limited opportunities and I'd be interested to see what he can do before we hurry to replace him. I would however make Joe Fauria my top UDFA target to round out the position group.

It would be fun to dig this thread up in a couple of years to see how we all would have done.
 

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jterrell;5072781 said:
Not at all a bad effort imho.
Notes:
Assume you mean Brian Winters at 47.
That's a pretty large reach when he was ranked round 3 or 4 by most and went round 3. If you believe he is a starter day 1 it would be a great pick. But that's a very questionable assessment for a guy from the MAC who has only played OT until now.

Schwenke at 74 would be fine by me. But I am not penciling him in as a day 1 starter. Valuable get with Costa being banged up but if Bern loses the RG job he'll compete at OC too. Not sure Schwenke can beat out both Bern and Costa or even either if they are healthy as a rookie.

I would have jumped all over Demontre Moore myself but the character stuff worries me. Aggies support each other. If this guy is getting bad marks then he has to be at least as frustrating as MartyB.

Again, I think your haul is strong but your assumption of immediate help on most these picks is a bit optimistic. Especially a 7th round rookie OT or 6th round rookie DL helping this year. Most linemen chosen that late make the practice squad if anything even if they later develop.

i agree with most of your comments, however i made the picks within the rules you had set out

i picked winter where i did because he was gone by my next pick and within the rules, i could not trade up etc

one could argue that i would not need to pick winter at 47 because frederick would still be available (most people think and i agree)

i agree that friegel would not start at OT and in my slightly modified version that i posted in the draft zone, i also made faulk (OT, LSU) my priority FA. he is hurt now but is a round 1 talent (certainly in this draft) and is supposed to be healthy by TC

point is that at the positions that we were picking at, we could have found value and made our team a lot better

i actually like the players we did pick just less than the ones i wanted to pick :)
 

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DT Sharif Floyd
G/C Travis Frederick (Yes, he would have been there.)
S J.J. Wilcox
WR Josh Boyce
RB Joseph Randle
TE Dion Sims
 

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TheSport78;5072983 said:
DT Sharif Floyd
G/C Travis Frederick (Yes, he would have been there.)
S J.J. Wilcox
WR Josh Boyce
RB Joseph Randle
TE Dion Sims

You have know idea if Fred would be there, so please stop with this nonsense.
 

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jterrell;5071617 said:
adding here if you don't mind...


18- Stay put and draft Shariff Floyd. Should have been a no brainer in my opinion.

47- Larry Warford- If we took Frederick at 31 I would say its pretty safe to say we won't be running a full on ZBS. Warford is one of the better guys at the LOS in this draft.

80- Brian Schwenke- A lot of scouts were just has high on Schwenke as Frederick. Value is great here.

114- Phillip Thomas- Was my 2nd favorite S in the class. 4th is great value.

151- Joseph Randle- Love this pick. Wouldn't change it.

185- Cobi Hamilton- Big bodied guy with athleticism and upside.[/QUOTE
this!!
 

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1) Floyd
2) Warford
3) Damontre Moore
4) Phillip Thomas
5) Ryan Swope
6) Michael Williams
 
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